Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Robertio]

Um no. Since the afl began pies 3 flags and tigers 3 flags. They are equal. Tigers 3 flags in quick succession has been offset by decades of loserdom.

We pick our own timeframes in this thread mate like Carlton 8 flags since 1968.

 

[Fadge]

I really don’t recall the commentary around Collingwood post-2021 being that grim.

You had a shocking year and most punters were just unsure how you’d go with a new coach.

You’re embellishing massively.

No, I'm not.

Go back and look at the commentary at the time.

We've seen this movie before.

 

[Robertio]

Go and watch the 2023 Grand Final, and come back and tell me how important he is to Collingwood's midfield balance.

How did he go in 2024?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Given they have a traditional round 1 fixture against Richmond, there's a likely double up and therefore immediate leg up there...

Not necessarily; eg we play Essendon round one then no double up. Which is unfortunate as they are all good start of year and poo after june

 

[Fadge]

How did he go in 2024?

He missed 17 games through injury, which was the point being discussed....

Keep up.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I'm not sure getting rid of Hodge, Lewis, Gunston, Mitchell, Birchall and then recruiting Mitchell, O'Meara and Vickery to replace them was "genius"

Minor correction not responsible for Gunston as he left for 2023 season and wright left 2021

 

[Scritchyscroony]

With no more father sons on the horizon their future looks enjoyably bleak.

Hate to break it to you.... Got Mick McGuane's boy coming next year. Highly rated top 10 prospect.

 

[Robertio]

He missed 17 games through injury, which was the point being discussed....

Keep up.

You don't think that that might be the normal from now on?

 

[Fadge]

You don't think that that might be the normal from now on?

If anyone expected that missing 17 games a season would be 'the normal from now on', said player would not be on Collingwood's list.

Unlike Carlton, we don't accept a player likely missing 75% of the season through injury as 'normal'.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

We pick our own timeframes in this thread mate like Carlton 8 flags since 1968.

2 flags in the 42 years from 1983 is my favourite.

 

[Robertio]

If anyone expected that missing 17 games a season would be 'the normal from now on', said player would not be on Collingwood's list.

Unlike Carlton, we don't accept a player likely missing 75% of the season through injury as 'normal'.

Said player getting on and with his body and playing style could be on the way to a pension.

 

[Robertio]

2 flags in the 42 years from 1983 is my favourite.

Doesn't beat 3 flags in 6 decades.

 

[Fadge]

2 flags in the 42 years from 1983 is my favourite.

Failing to contend for a premiership in 25 years let alone win one is my favourite.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

In what time? The only form that counts is the latest form and that says you're down in Mexico with all the rest of the strugglers and a list that's ready for a nursing home.

Latest form says you haven't beaten a top 15 team in your last ten games, Blues back on the spoon trajectory

 

[Robertio]

Latest form says you haven't beaten a top 15 team in your last ten games, Blues back on the spoon trajectory

Fell into the eight to keep the Pies out, that's a win.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Fell into the eight to keep the Pies out, that's a win.

Rubbish, you fell into a barrel full of **** and came out sucking your thumb

 

[Worm4]

Because that period has been extremely 'enjoyable' for Collingwood supporters, given we've contended for the premiership regularly over that time.

Have collingwood regularly contended over that time, you sure ? First time I've heard that

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Failing to contend for a premiership in 25 years let alone win one is my favourite.

Yeah that's my other favourite Carlton numerology too.
I also like failing to finish in the top 4 for 24 consecutive years. It takes a special club to accomplish that.

 

[Fadge]

Yeah that's my other favourite Carlton numerology too.
I also like failing to finish in the top 4 for 24 consecutive years. It takes a special club to accomplish that.

Yeah, I honestly don't think you could do that if you set out to.

That's a lot of wasted careers for talented high draft picks...

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Yeah, I honestly don't think you could do that if you set out to.

That's a lot of wasted careers for talented high draft picks...

5 no.1 draft picks no less.
It's a real tragedy.

 

[Fadge]

5 no.1 draft picks no less.
It's a real tragedy.

Throw in Judd, Fevola, Cripps, Curnow and McKay.

Such a waste.

No wonder Fev went so far off the rails...

 

[Fat Jesus]

Throw in Judd, Fevola, Cripps, Curnow and McKay.

Such a waste.

No wonder Fev went so far off the rails...

At least Judd experienced success at a better club.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Well hawthorn have been the most successful club of the modern era, and since the Hawks first flag in 1961 the flag tally looks like this.

Hawthorn 13
Carlton 8
Richmond 8
Essendon 6
Geelong 5
North Melbourne 4
West Coast Eagles 4
Brisbane Lions 4
Collingwood 3
Melbourne Demons 2
Adelaide Crows 2
Sydney Swans 2
St Kilda 1
Western Bulldogs 1
Port Adelaide 1

The Pies still don't even have as much as half a dozen flags. I suppose it only tells half the story as well though.

Hawthorn for all the success they've enjoyed in that time, are still only a mid tier club in terms of overall stature and profile imo.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Throw in Judd, Fevola, Cripps, Curnow and McKay.

Such a waste.

No wonder Fev went so far off the rails...

Yeah playing for Carlton destroyed poor old Fev's life. He just couldn't cope with it.

Carlton should do the right thing and trade Cripps to a club that can contend for a flag. He deserves a chance to become a premiership player. Cruel of Carlton to retain him and deny him the opportunity.

 

[TiggyTig]

Has your spoon arrived yet?

Another Richmond supporter buddying up with Carlton.

Misery needs company.

Clearly say i don't like Carlton but they are in a much better position than Pies.