Please try and convince all and sundry that Collingwood didn't finish 9th this year, with more losses than wins.You refute my points about Carlton with attacks on Collingwood. That doesn't work. It's called deflection...
I know hearing the truth about where Carlton is at must be painful. But you need to be strong to overcome all the self delusion you guys have cocooned yourselves in. I'm trying to help you out.