Analysis Changes for next week v Geelong

[JB1975]

It was a tough game and it's been a hard few weeks, but we should pull up okay after another 7-day break.

In: Wells
Out: Blair
I didn't mind Blair's game yesterday, the game seemed to suit him at times, but he needs to make way for one of Daniel's cameo appearances. If Pendles doesn't come up okay then Wells comes in for him, and Blair stays.


Other Changes:

• Langdon--Our defence is better with him in it, so he comes in if fit. Not sure how to balance the inclusion of Maynard and Langdon, but I suppose Appleby might be part of the equation.
• Maynard--Again, he comes in if fit. It might be that his inclusion simply moves Adams out of defence, which will create a selection dilemma further up the ground.
• Out of all the players yet to have played a game this season, Wells seems the best-placed to make a solid contribution. I think that Fasolo and Greenwood will miss out.
• I'm pretty sure that Callum Brown was rested for the Brisbane game, but it is hard to see how/where he squeezes back in.

 

[welshm69]

I'm not sure about others, even though I think Crocker needs some time in the VFL, I actually feel sorry for him.

When seeing the interview about his Dad, I take it he plays a big role when he's not at work in looking after him and as it's a degenerative disease it will only get harder for him.

What are others thoughts on this?

Is this playing into his game?

 

[CFC2010]

It was a tough game and it's been a hard few weeks, but we should pull up okay after another 7-day break.

In: Wells
Out: Blair
I didn't mind Blair's game yesterday, the game seemed to suit him at times, but he needs to make way for one of Daniel's cameo appearances. If Pendles doesn't come up okay then Wells comes in for him, and Blair stays.


Other Changes:

• Langdon--Our defence is better with him in it, so he comes in if fit. Not sure how to balance the inclusion of Maynard and Langdon, but I suppose Appleby might be part of the equation.
• Maynard--Again, he comes in if fit. It might be that his inclusion simply moves Adams out of defence, which will create a selection dilemma further up the ground.
• Out of all the players yet to have played a game this season, Wells seems the best-placed to make a solid contribution. I think that Fasolo and Greenwood will miss out.
• I'm pretty sure that Callum Brown was rested for the Brisbane game, but it is hard to see how/where he squeezes back in.

Your thoughts on Crocker?

 

[buzzbuzz]

Talk about dropping Moore is ridiculous. Yes he has a fair few quiet games as a CHF/FF because he's 22 years old! He took a ripping mark and kicked a fantastic goal last night, and clearly the structure works. So short-sighted to think he should go out.

Mayne however, I can see being swapped for Fasolo. But I do have a hunch the coaches aren't happy with Fas. Otherwise we don't appear to have anyone fully ready to return aside from, apparently, Greenwood. Pendles out for Greenwood potentially the only change.

 

[PatrickPiesFan]

Talk about dropping Moore is ridiculous. Yes he has a fair few quiet games as a CHF/FF because he's 22 years old! He took a ripping mark and kicked a fantastic goal last night, and clearly the structure works. So short-sighted to think he should go out.

Mayne however, I can see being swapped for Fasolo. But I do have a hunch the coaches aren't happy with Fas. Otherwise we don't appear to have anyone fully ready to return aside from, apparently, Greenwood. Pendles out for Greenwood potentially the only change.

Just looked like a touch issue last night with Moore; he got his hands on a lot of balls but couldn't hold on to them! That will come with continuity and it would be silly to take him straight out.... He and Cox will stretch and undersized Cats back line this weekend!

 

[Scodog10]

Out: Blair, Mayne, Crocker and Appleby
In: Brown, Wells, Fasolo and Mihocek*

All of those saying that Blair and Mayne were reasonable must be having a lend because what happened yesterday was a whole bunch of other players (WHE, Moore, Adams, Crisp, Howe, Murray and Cox for 90% of the contest) fell to their level so their poor performances didn’t stand out as much as usual. They were dreadful! The one thing I will say though is that Mayne has no chance at that level as a forward if we want to persist with him he needs to go back.

Brown for Blair is as obvious as the nose on your face we lose nothing from it and get some game time into a guy with a medium term future at the club. Wells for Mayne because we need the extra class around the contest v Geelong. Fasolo for Crocker should have happened a month ago and I feel like we’re flogging a dead horse with it, but surely the time has come, surely. We were deadset terrible in defense yesterday and Appleby was an early days Tooveyesque liability back there. Every time he went within 5 metres of the ball it was heart in mouth stuff so he’s out, but the difficulty lies with who to replace him with and I’ve chosen Mihocek.

The difficulty in selection lies with Pendles. His powers of recovery are second to none because he’s such a pro so I’ve left him in for now, but I do think he should sit this one out. Like Grundy yesterday he’ll be fine when the ball is in a 5 metre radius, but beyond that he’ll struggle to cover the ground we need him to against the Cats midfield. Sier is the one for him if he doesn’t get up.

*If either or both of Maynard and Langdon are fit they come in before Mihocek, but I’m more hopeful than expectant on that front. Who knows how far away Elliott is!

 

[JB1975]

Your thoughts on Crocker?

I think that Crock can develop, and that he's done some good things this year. But my thoughts on Crocker yesterday, in short...not glowing.

One thing is causing me to reserve judgment on Crock, which is that I can't actually tell what his role is. The aspect of his game which always showed the most promise IMO has been his leading, but it seems to me that he's not being played in a position where he's allowed to lead and mark (i.e. to play according to his strength). Some comments here suggest that the Sack is working with Crock to help him develop a more versatile role, a Sack-like role, but if that's the case then the early signs of the experiment are underwhelming. He works hard, up and down the ground, but the benefit of this work rate isn't immediately apparent.

If he was playing in his natural element and failing miserably then a straight swap with Fasolo would be a no-brainer, but right now I'm not sure it would be like-for-like at all. As it is, the club might have a very different set of hopes and indicators for Crocker, and I'm as curious as anyone to see how that plays out.

 

[JJ14AU]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ho...t/news-story/6d8b3d1c9bf43fdcc0071321612b1795

 

[Matt_352]

We are still not in the 8!

Good for you do you want a cookie

 

[good4footy]

If there is nothing structurally wrong with Pendles he will play. That guy is amazing with his ability to recover and play with injury / pain.

For me whatever class we have available needs to come in. Our injuries lead to us becoming a workman like team again yesterday.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

In: Fasolo, Wells, McLarty
Out: Mayne, Blair, Crocker

McLarty can play back for forward and can Moore. So we can switch either of them onto Hawkins depending on how he's going which frees up Dunn to play on a med/tall because he can play smaller surprisingly well imo.

I think Pendles will play. Unless it's the worst sprained ankle in the history of sprained ankles, I don't see why he'd miss.

Mayne has had 2 cracks at it now to really show how desperate he is to stay in the seniors and doesn't appear to have made a good case. Blair is just too limited a player to justify his spot given what we have sitting in the reserves. Crocker is just...lol.

If Pendles doesn't come up, then Greenwood simply must come in to do his normal job on Selwood.

 

[jackcass]

According to the injury list on AFL site:
Elliott, Maynard, Reid 1-2 weeks.

Langdon, Greenwood, Wells, Fas, all available.

I wouldn't drop either of Cox or Moore, Cats don't have a tall backline.

Out at this stage would be Crocker, Mayne and Blair.

Def in would be Wells/Fas, then depends on matchups.

I would have thought that was from last week which means Maynard and Elliott have now missed a week and should now be available. Reid would be more the 2 weeks. Elliott won't come straight back to the seniors, Maynard should.

 

[Finnishpie]

I'm not sure about others, even though I think Crocker needs some time in the VFL, I actually feel sorry for him.

When seeing the interview about his Dad, I take it he plays a big role when he's not at work in looking after him and as it's a degenerative disease it will only get harder for him.

What are others thoughts on this?

Is this playing into his game?

His dad's sad situation had been around for a long time, so I don't think this is a massive influence on his form or game. I think - unfortunately - he's a touch slow for the position he plays. He's a good depth player.

 

[Finnishpie]

In: Fasolo, Wells, McLarty
Out: Mayne, Blair, Crocker

McLarty can play back for forward and can Moore. So we can switch either of them onto Hawkins depending on how he's going which frees up Dunn to play on a med/tall because he can play smaller surprisingly well imo.

I think Pendles will play. Unless it's the worst sprained ankle in the history of sprained ankles, I don't see why he'd miss.

Mayne has had 2 cracks at it now to really show how desperate he is to stay in the seniors and doesn't appear to have made a good case. Blair is just too limited a player to justify his spot given what we have sitting in the reserves. Crocker is just...lol.

If Pendles doesn't come up, then Greenwood simply must come in to do his normal job on Selwood.

I love "I think Pendles will play." Shepshal Ed, none of us really know until the scans are done and people see him on the track. I mean, think about Elliot's ankle....

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I love "I think Pendles will play." Shepshal Ed, none of us really know until the scans are done and people see him on the track. I mean, think about Elliot's ankle....

I know, I'm just saying I think he'll play.

I mean, he kept walking on it, he put weight on it, they all but confirmed it was a sprained ankle. I"m just saying, that unless it's the worst sprained ankle of all time, I doubt it's going to keep him out of the Geelong game.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

The reality is the balance you want with the available replacements without too much disruption.

Ok, Wells is an absolute given.
Pendlebury is by all reports out.
So makes sense direct swap of sorts.

Then is Langdon coming back? If so surely it’s Appelby making way?
Even if Langdon is still not ready then Maynard comes in. Either one looks to me that Appelby makes way.

Then I think we decide that Sier is now ready, hence Blair to me is the logical fall guy. Bigger for smaller in today’s football seems a good idea to me.

Now the vexed question of Fasolo.
Does he come in finally, is he ready! If so who makes way, suggest Mayne or even Crocker.

In: Wells, Maynard, Sier, Fasolo.

Out: Pendlebury (injured), Appelby, Blair, Mayne.

I will assume Langdon is not quite ready though he might play a few quarters of seconds footy.

B. Maynard ~ Dunn ~ Crisp
HB. Howe ~ Scharenberg ~ Murray
C. Sidebottom ~ Wells ~ Phillips
HF. Hoskin-Elliot ~ Moore ~ Adams
F. Crocker ~ Cox ~ Stephenson
R. Grundy ~ De Goey ~ Treloar
I. Sier ~ Fasolo ~ Thomas ~ Varcoe

E. McLarty, Appelby, Brown C, Mihocek

New. Sier

Given Taylor Adams played back, I don't see why Maynard in means Appleby out.

to me, Maynard in would mean Adams goes back into the middle or half forward which then pushes one of Blair, Mayne or Crocker out.

 

[jackcass]

Any chance Greenwood could get a call up or will he need another week or two for fitness?

Would love to see him play on his bitch

I'm a bit confused on Greenwood. Varying reports that he either played well or conversely that he came on in the 3rd quarter and struggled with the pace of the game. According to the stats he racked up around 20 disposals (10 kicks, 10 HB's), 5 marks and a tackle and was named among our bests.

Either way, he's missed a lot of footy so I'd expect more VFL time before he's really pushing for senior selection.

 

[jackcass]

On a re-done hamstring...?

That explains his 5 possessions, normally better than that at VFL level.

 

[jackcass]

We clearly prefer to go without a tagger so far this season, but damn, with Ablett in this isn't just any midfield, probably the best midfield ever assembled.

I'm more worried about Danger, he'll spend a fair bit of time deep forward and we need to have a plan in place to negate that, not sure how though, or should i say Howe though?

I'd like to see Crispy go to Danger if he goes forward.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

IN: Wells Fas McLarty Sier

OUT: Mayne Blair Cox Crocker

Could be Others too

Why Cox?!

 

[jackcass]

Makes you wonder why they went straight back in the side.
Should've been consistent and played them in the VFL.

The VFL bye likely made that a tough call. Good that we can get the 4 points while rehabbing a couple of guys but could have been an ugly discussion if we'd lost. They'll both be better for the run and hopefully Langdon and/or Maynard are back this week releasing Adams back into the midfield.

 

[Scodog10]

Cox wrecks nothing. He is doing what he is supposed to do. Contesting. Drawing 2 defenders and helping out in the ruck. I’d be sending Darcy back to the two’s before Cox.

Outs Pendles (inj) Crocker Mayne Blair

Ins Sier Brown Wells Fasolo.


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TBH I haven’t read the back comments, but I think TD has a point. The structure of Moore and Cox is yet to really pay dividends and I don’t think they work particularly well together especially when JDG plays deeper.

I’m genuinely down on Moore the fwd dating back to last year for either of the following reasons:

a) his work rate is poor meaning he doesn’t get to enough contests or

b) his leading patterns are poor meaning he runs to the wrong spots.

In effect it means that he’s at best a 10-12 ppg fwd and for a guy of his ability that’s not good enough.

To get the most out of him in the structure we implement at this time he’s better suited to defense. With Reid out and Taylor injured for the Cats it might be an opportunity to send him back to stiffen up the defense which was terrible yesterday. We then bring McLarty in as the second tall going through the ruck.

 

[jackcass]

Be an interesting week for selection and likely a few hard calls to be made. For mine the least effective player in our team yesterday was Moore, followed by Crocker, Adams, Mayne and Blair so if Pendles gets up, they're the guys under pressure to hold their spots. Dunn had some moments he'd rather forget but he basically kept Hipwood scoreless so you'd say he's played his role.

Can't see either Moore or Adams getting dropped although Moore out for McLarty could potentially happen. McLarty has been bashing down the door at VFL level and capped off what was reportedly a very good game Saturday with 19 hitouts.

So for mine, that leaves Crocker, Mayne and Blair as the most likely exclusions. I thought Blair was good and Mayne played his role. Just don't think they're good enough to keep others out.

Hopefully Langdon and Maynard are available and all of Wells, McLarty, Sier, C Brown and Fasolo would be in the mix. That's 10 blokes battling for three spots with Crocker, Blair and Mayne the incumbents assuming no-one misses due to injury.

 

[Unknown Identity]

OUT: Dunn - Crocker - Mayne - Blair
IN: McLarty - Fasolo - Wells - Sier

B: Appleby - Moore - Howe
HB: Murray - Scharenberg - Crisp
C: Wells - Pendles - Sidebottom
HF: WHE - McLarty - DeGoey
F: Fasolo - Cox - Varcoe
R: Grundy - Adams - Treloar

INT: Stephenson - Thomas - Phillips - Sier

Sier has put together some solid footy at VFL level and it's time to see if he can take the next step.

Obviously Pendles is potentially out so either Mayne or Blair get a repreive.

 

[Mongo Ming]

Out: Apples, Blair, Crocker
In: Wells, Langdon, Fas

If both Langdon and Maynard are fit drop Mayne.