Unofficial Preview Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 12 vs. Hawthorn, Sun 05/06, 2:10pm MCG

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If Chugg was debuting wouldn’t have it been announced by our media team already with an accompanying video of his teammates clapping?

In saying given the selection patterns this year this seams spot on. I’d prefer Chugg over Tyler atm though.
He was never in the frame I’m more just tired of the process. I’d prefer playing with 21 over both Brown and Chugg, but if it came down to it I’d go Tyler because he’s at least shown something at VFL level to justify selection.
 
Brown to his credit made a contribution in the last with a couple of great pressure acts and a goal from the goal square but was basically unsighted up until that point and when he was he looked rushed and off the pace of the game IMO. Importantly he wasn't used through the midfield and was basically in the role McCreery has occupied also.

It's kind of strange to me that some have painted Brown as some kind of underdog in relation to McCreery when Beau is 16 months younger, played 3 less games, wasn't some prized draft selection or son of a former gun.

He's done well so far to give a good impression of himself to both Buckley and McRae, be given opportunity and do a better job of taking his chances than Tyler.

While much has been made of his form this season it's interesting to note that his 7 games this season have generated 7 goal assists while last season it was only 2 from his 12 games.

He's going alright.
 
Brown to his credit made a contribution in the last with a couple of great pressure acts and a goal from the goal square but was basically unsighted up until that point and when he was he looked rushed and off the pace of the game IMO. Importantly he wasn't used through the midfield and was basically in the role McCreery has occupied also.

It's kind of strange to me that some have painted Brown as some kind of underdog in relation to McCreery when Beau is 16 months younger, played 3 less games, wasn't some prized draft selection or son of a former gun.

He's done well so far to give a good impression of himself to both Buckley and McRae, be given opportunity and do a better job of taking his chances than Tyler.

While much has been made of his form this season it's interesting to note that his 7 games this season have generated 7 goal assists while last season it was only 2 from his 12 games.

He's going alright.

See what you are saying but there is no merit selecting T Brown and then playing him as a forward when he stinks it up in midfield
… no more logic than there is playing Bianco or Kelly as a forward

McReery as a forward however..

Or ultimately… I wish they’d just play McInness as the last mid, knowing very well he can at least semi-adequately rotate forward at least 🤷‍♀️
 
See what you are saying but there is no merit selecting T Brown and then playing him as a forward when he stinks it up in midfield
… no more logic than there is playing Bianco or Kelly as a forward

McReery as a forward however..

Or ultimately… I wish they’d just play McInness as the last mid, knowing very well he can at least semi-adequately rotate forward at least 🤷‍♀️

Why does nobody consider that McInness could develop into a marking forward? He's 194cm and athletic.

Pleasantly surprised the Brown experiment seems to be over. I said 6 weeks ago we should give him 4 weeks in a row to show something and he played 2 good minutes of footy in that time. I thought those two good acts he did might have tricked them into playing him again but it looks like the selectors have realised 6 disposals is not worthy of keeping a place in the team.
 
Our team this week is one of the most skilful, balanced and exciting that we have named in years. For starters, virtually every player is a good kick of the footy!

It looks…….Hawthorn-like!

Graeme Wright’s influence clearly coming through.


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Why does nobody consider that McInness could develop into a marking forward? He's 194cm and athletic.

Pleasantly surprised the Brown experiment seems to be over. I said 6 weeks ago we should give him 4 weeks in a row to show something and he played 2 good minutes of footy in that time. I thought those two good acts he did might have tricked them into playing him again but it looks like the selectors have realised 6 disposals is not worthy of keeping a place in the team.

Nobody considers Reef a forward because his best footy at NAB level was as a utility who rotated into the midfield

Was taken with the assessment he would become a big bodied full time mid

Which begs the question… why aren’t they playing him there in the VFL?

And I don’t buy a lack of a tank as the issue. Kids done enough training to play a good portion of a VFL game there
 

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I agree McReery is very inconsistent… but roles wise you are comparing apples (midfield) with pears (forwards)

Which role is more valuable? A pressure forward or a pressure mid ? Both average around 7-8 touches a game

Did Brown get a midfield rotation? I thought he played entirely forward.
 
Brown to his credit made a contribution in the last with a couple of great pressure acts and a goal from the goal square but was basically unsighted up until that point and when he was he looked rushed and off the pace of the game IMO. Importantly he wasn't used through the midfield and was basically in the role McCreery has occupied also.

It's kind of strange to me that some have painted Brown as some kind of underdog in relation to McCreery when Beau is 16 months younger, played 3 less games, wasn't some prized draft selection or son of a former gun.

He's done well so far to give a good impression of himself to both Buckley and McRae, be given opportunity and do a better job of taking his chances than Tyler.

While much has been made of his form this season it's interesting to note that his 7 games this season have generated 7 goal assists while last season it was only 2 from his 12 games.

He's going alright.

McCreery - Pick 44 ND
T Brown - Pick 50 ND

Not sure which of them you’re suggesting was a prized draft pick.
 
Our team this week is one of the most skilful, balanced and exciting that we have named in years. For starters, virtually every player is a good kick of the footy!

It looks…….Hawthorn-like!

Graeme Wright’s influence clearly coming through.


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Are you serious? We butcher the ball like no team ever.

Pendlebury, Moore and Howe are elite. The rest are hot and miss, Sidebottom is lauded for his kicking, will have at least one out of bounds on the full each game and won’t kick it more than 35m.

Adams, Crisp and Degoey are prone to missing targets and they win the most ball.
 
Nobody considers Reef a forward because his best footy at NAB level was as a utility who rotated into the midfield

Was taken with the assessment he would become a big bodied full time mid

Which begs the question… why aren’t they playing him there in the VFL?

And I don’t buy a lack of a tank as the issue. Kids done enough training to play a good portion of a VFL game there
Agree. Should have seconds covered. If not the more time on the ball gut running the better.
 
Are you serious? We butcher the ball like no team ever.

Pendlebury, Moore and Howe are elite. The rest are hot and miss, Sidebottom is lauded for his kicking, will have at least one out of bounds on the full each game and won’t kick it more than 35m.

Adams, Crisp and Degoey are prone to missing targets and they win the most ball.

All the players you have named are relatively old. I’m talking about the kicking improvement from the turnover of players in recent times.

J Daicos
N Daicos
Ginnivan
McCreery
Quaynor
Cameron
Noble
Murphy
Henry

Are all relatively recent additions to the side and all are above-average kicks.

Collectively they are big improvements on C Brown, T Brown, Mayne, Greenwood, Phillips, Blair, the Irish rookies, etc, most of whom couldn’t reliably hit a target in general play more than 30m away and lacked the kicking penetration to score from set shots of more than 40m.

There is no doubt whatsoever that we are a better kicking side than we were 2-3 years ago.

All of the players named this week have kicking penetration. They can move the ball quickly from point A to point B. The refreshing of our squad has gotten rid of players who kick high floaters that take too long to reach the target and are easily intercepted. We are much more dangerous and high scoring because of it.

That kicking evolution is exactly what Hawthorn did under the leadership Clarko and Wright. It’s early days but we are already reaping rewards from changing emphasis to only recruiting players who are strong kicks of the footy.



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Good change. T.Brown goes back to the VFL for a few weeks in the middle.
McInnes the sub for mine.

B - Quaynor Moore Murphy
HB - Maynard Howe Crisp
C - J.Daicos DeGoey Noble
HF - Elliott Cameron Sidebottom
F - Ginnivan Mihochek Henry
R - Cox Adams Pendlebury
INT - Lipinski N.Daicos WHE McCreery

Solid.
 
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