Strategy Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 13 vs. Melbourne, MCG Mon 12/06, 3:20pm BIG FREEZE

[Apex36]

The fact that we took McStay knowing we already had AJ and BM tells me that the intention was to always play all 3. As for Frampton, I seriously doubt he will be dropped

Except we didn’t play all 3 until our rucks were injured. I’d be surprised if we played 3 tall forwards and two rucks, seems fairly top heavy to me.

 

[Prexm]

Not this again

Frampton is 100% in our best side. We’re not winning a flag with one tall defender. It’s simply not happening.

If Howe is back close to his best he still may miss like he did in Round 1. If everyone is fit the two tough decisions are which tallish defender and which tallish forward will miss out.

 

[Doc1763]

If Howe is back close to his best he still may miss like he did in Round 1. If everyone is fit the two tough decisions are which tallish defender and which tallish forward will miss out.

The advantage of Frampton is that he can ruck if we need him too, and I think he could pinch hit forward as well. he's so versatile.

 

[Kes1984]

Anyone rate Harrison as AFL standard?

Give him a chance. Can’t make a call from one game but I reckon he did alright!

 

[LuckyLee]

It’s not so much intensity as pace that’s the issue

I think you missed my sarcasm. I was having some fun with the criticism of Ginny’s “zero insenity”……whatever the hell that is!

But yes, I agree, he looks like he is running through wet concrete and can’t stick a tackle. Those are not traits normally associated with successful small forwards. I don’t see a spot for him when we have a near-full list to pick from.


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[Scodog10]

You would think it is not a huge difference but he seems to be ok running off half back but lost playing on a wing.

In modern footy the wing is one of the hardest positions on the field and HBF one of the easiest so it doesn’t shock me. IMO, it’s one of the biggest challenges with selection pressure. It’s great to have him as the 24th man if there’s a defensive injury, but any other role and I’d be concerned.

 

[whiskeytown]

Give Macrae or Carmichael a run in De Goey’s place whilst he’s suspended

Find out what they are about at senior level

Start Lipinski as sub… ease him back in. Been out a long time

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Wait, scratch that.

 

[domus]

The fact that we took McStay knowing we already had AJ and BM tells me that the intention was to always play all 3. As for Frampton, I seriously doubt he will be dropped

He had some outstanding games in defense before he was injured and then went into the ruck. Why are we getting so many knee jerk reactions after one game?

 

[sr36]

You would think it is not a huge difference but he seems to be ok running off half back but lost playing on a wing.

At half back he's part of a structured defensive unit, with others helping to direct him. Wing requires more autonomous decision making.

 

[stormskye]

Give Macrae or Carmichael a run in De Goey’s place whilst he’s suspended

Find out what they are about at senior level

Start Lipinski as sub… ease him back in. Been out a long time

Carmy has been very average today

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Thanks to a laugh react from Sco I realise I was commenting in this thread instead of the VFL thread.

 

[Scodog10]

Thanks to a laugh react from Sco I realise I was commenting in this thread instead of the VFL thread.

I’m not letting you get away with that!

 

[manicpie]

Carmy has been very average today

That will get him a game, I mean, I thought HH was just going in the VFL but he ended up having a solid game

 

[swoop42]

Get the feeling the young player most likely to get the call up should injury dictate isn't even playing VFL today.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I don't think adding in Frampton really benefitted the defence - let alone adding an extra aerialist in Howe as well.

His 1st run in defence since he was moved into the ruck against Brisbane in R4. Think he’s entitled to a little time to reacquaint himself to the role.

 

[Hardas]

Get the feeling the young player most likely to get the call up should injury dictate isn't even playing VFL today.

Yeah, I have a feeling number 16 debuts on a wing next Monday.

 

[jmac70]

Yeah, I have a feeling number 16 debuts on a wing next Monday.

That would excite me.

 

[Mick F]

Very.
But, who misses out if he plays.

So, he needs to look at Bobby Hill and follow his example. Bobby had a big pre-pre season. And he took Ginnivan’s role. Ginnivan needs to take himself to another level if he wants to remain in the AFL.

Hill’s tank will be a lot better next year, if he can avoid injury.

 

[Mick F]

I think they would have been well and truly aware of his capabilities. Being 193cm, I would imagine that they already had him pencilled in for the 3rd tall role

Agree blokes with the athleticism of Johnson stand out at training. Just got to get them fit and focused.

 

[Magnanimous]

Out: JDG In: Lipinski
Out: Beau In: Elliott
Out: Markov In: Allan

Sub: Ginnivan

Good except Carmy for Allan

from my Delorean

 

[Magnanimous]

Will need him against the teams with 2 big forwards

Or 2 rotating ruck/forwards

from my Delorean

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

What's the news regarding Adams?

 

[LuckyLee]

What's the news regarding Adams?

To what are you alluding?


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[Big Bryza]

Their rehab wouldn’t have have affected their aerobic fitness at all. I’d expect that they’re both in tip top shape. Both are experienced players and would offer more than anyone coming up through from the seconds.

The only doubt IMO would be having McStay, Mihocek and Johnson in the same forward line feels a bit tall - especially given Ginnivan is down on form, Harrison is new, and McCreery is likely out. And I doubt anybody would want to drop Johnson or Mihocek to bring in McStay.

The key as always v Melbourne is to keep May and Lever busy and avoid kicking down the line to them.

If we do run all 3 of these guys then i can see McStay playing a negating role on May. Having both Cox and Cameron as well makes us quite tall but those 2 are a lock.

If Ginny is persisted with then i reckon he has a 3-4 week block without JDG and Sidey to stake his claim for a spot otherwise he'll be back in the 2's pretty quickly upon their return.

Really excited for Lippas return. Can't underestimate his impact on our side. Qualiry ball user and great footy IQ.