Preview Changes: R5 vs Richmond - Saturday April 16, 4.05pm ACST @ Adelaide Oval

[Scorpus]

IN:
McAdam, Cook, Berry

OUT:
Hinge, Rowe, Schoenberg

Hinge dropped and named as an emergency, not injured

 

[Josh Jenkins #1Fan]

I don't think any year is McAsey's. It's time to cut out losses on him and allow him to move back to Victoria. Jones and McHenry are also a bust so we need to face facts that Hamish had numerous very poor years.

It's fairly evident we need to trade in an experienced quality KPD. Butts is developing but will never dominate the comp and Frampton, Murray, Borlace, Worrell are developing but all have limitations. I would look at trading in someone like Brennan Cox from Freo or bring in a Steven May type as Melbourne did. Since Talia has exited it's left a big hole in our backline and Doedee, Smith, Brown have all dropped away at the same time. Our midfield and a decent ruck is our other major problem but we are going nowhere until we fix our defence.

2 years into the system just started his 3rd year after 2 interupted pre seasons and cut our losses? OMG why do people say such silly things

 

[LeftyLuke]

No way we could change a “nearly winning side.”

That makes no sense. Surely you implement changes the following week that would have led to a win the previous week. Even if you win you surely implement changes that would have led to an even bigger win the previous week.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

That makes no sense. Surely you implement changes the following week that would have led to a win the previous week.

He was stirring.

 

[Schulzycrow]

Out:
Billy (The Potato) Frampton
Chase (Rabbit in the headlights) Jones
Riley (I only play well when I'm out of contract) O'Brien
Ned (I have no left foot) McHenry

In:
Murray or the Fish or Borlase for the potato
Milera for the rabbit
Strachen for safe with my contract
McAdam for no left foot.

One of Sloane, Schoenburg or Crouch need to go out for Berry or Hately, but we all know that won't happen. Our midfield is treacle slow and just plain dumb.

Someone suggested THilthorpe as 1st Ruck. While I applaud the right field thinking and think its a brillant idea, the AFC frowns on such thinking and would never consider it in a million lifetimes.

Another change would be to teach Keays to kick on the run, but that is probably a bridge too far.

Was listening to AA and someone suggested the Thilthorpe to ruck idea and Blight the Messia loved the idea. AFC make it so. Could be the inspired move of the season.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Out:
Jones ROB Sloane Frampton McHenry Hinge inj Murphy

In:
Hamill Strachan Thilthorpe Murray Berry Worrell Newchurch/McAdam

Brown Butts Doedee
Smith Murray Hamill
Dawson Laird Sholl
Cook Walker Rachele
Newchurch/McAdam Himmelberg Gollant

Strachan Keays Schoenberg

Berry Worrell Thilthorpe Crouch

 

[Shaunbkk]

Crouch was absolutely pathetic, and anyone who includes him in the best players from that game has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.

The dumbo just check the stats AFL Media always put Laird Mc Crouch as best players only because the touched it more LOL

 

[Firewalker]

So many deserve to be dropped that won’t.

Jones & McHenry, two 1st round draft picks are nowhere, neither should be in the positions they are playing at AFL level, their poor execution of basic football skills and positioning is ridiculous for players who’ve been in the system for 4 seasons and their just plain easiness to be either brushed aside or be non-entities is an an indictment on the whole player development team.

Still can’t believe Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

is in this team, his inclusion this year has made whatever progress made last year just blow up in a puff of smoke and automatically made the team regress in the first 4 weeks.

Don’t think there is a team around in the league that has players with so many basic football skill deficiencies as automatic selections, the first choice ruck for goodness sake is in the leadership group, getting 600k+, gets routinely beaten by reserve league ruckman, can hardly find his teammates in ruck contest and can barely kick or handball a football. Like WTAF, when you break it down into basic terms like that I know in this unique game ruckman are given some leeway but imagine being in an elite ball sports league and you can’t do the 2 main things you have to do when you get to touch the ball.

 

[Shaunbkk]

The problem is that Murray and Frampton have separate issues, and Murray didn't exactly go back to the SANFL and show us he's getting rid of some of those negative elements to his game anytime soon. Billy will be given a string of games i think.

What i WILL say is that there is a big difference between 48 inside 50's which we conceded against Port, a game which we won, and conceding a whopping 65 entries against Essendon. Despite Sloane being a tackling machine, defensively as a team we were worse with him being in there.

I see a MASSIVE issue with our ability to create pressure when we lose the ball around the contest, and on the counter-attack. As a matter of fact a major issue of ours is our ability to create manic pressure just about anywhere on the park, but from stoppages we're just SO SLOW defensively with Sloane and Crouch in there, players just GLIDE past them.

We have a mosquito fleet that, bizarrely, lacks genuine speed and tackling pressure, with the exception of Ned and Jones. Rowe and Murphy couldn't lay a tackle on the weekend to save their life.

Interesting to note that Scotty Burns mentioned Hamill and Parnell amongst those putting pressure on for senior selection. Hamill, despite a strong tag on the weekend, certainly worked his way far up the ground at times and looked hungry to put pressure on their defence. If Hinge doesn't get up i'd be considering himself for speed, or Worrel for height if that's the way we're going to go.

At this stage, despite his raw talent, i have NO IDEA why Cook is being picked over other players.

THIS the issue of not being able to pressure when we lose contested ball, it's just a pinball game almost everytime watching the oposition fumble yet run around us and lose tackles (ours are often awful).

 

[texanmike]

So many deserve to be dropped that won’t.

Jones & McHenry, two 1st round draft picks are nowhere, neither should be in the positions they are playing at AFL level, their poor execution of basic football skills and positioning is ridiculous for players who’ve been in the system for 4 seasons and their just plain easiness to be either brushed aside or be non-entities is an an indictment on the whole player development team.

Still can’t believe Matt Crouch is in this team, his inclusion this year has made whatever progress made last year just blow up in a puff of smoke and automatically made the team regress in the first 4 weeks.

Don’t think there is a team around in the league that has players with so many basic football skill deficiencies as automatic selections, the first choice ruck for goodness sake is in the leadership group, getting 600k+, gets routinely beaten by reserve league ruckman, can hardly find his teammates in ruck contest and can barely kick or handball a football. Like WTAF, when you break it down into basic terms like that I know in this unique game ruckman are given some leeway but imagine being in an elite ball sports league and you can’t do the 2 main things you have to do when you get to touch the ball.

You can’t help but laugh, it’s just comical now especially the ROB stuff, I can’t believe we have a ruck signed up for that long that has no AFL skills, he is just good athletically and that’s about it.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

Just to repeat what a few others have said, I could handle O’Brien, McHenry, Jones, Sloane staying in.

But Berry must come in for Crouch.

We are gutless and unprofessional if we don’t do it.

Time to get serious, Nicks.

More fun stat facts with me, Miss Vanessa! Below are some relevant stats which I think provide an insight into how well both Crouch and Sloane are doing this year:

Sloane:
19.7 disposals
62.7% disposal efficiency
51.6% kicking efficiency
4.7 clangers
3.3 turnovers
5.7 clearances
2.0 centre clearances
3.7 marks (0 contested)
0 goals
4.7 score involvements
5 tackles
225 metres gained

Crouch
28.5 disposals
75.4% disposal efficiency
55% kicking efficiency
3.5 clangers
3 turnovers
4.8 clearances
0.8 centre clearances
3.8 marks (0 contested)
0 goals
7.3 score involvements
3.5 tackles
213.4 metres gained

Aside from a few memorable horrible, horrible kicks, I think Crouch has actually been solid this season and has been involved in quite a bit of what decent play we’ve had. Sloane has been bog ordinary in all the games he’s been involved in this season. He provides a hell of a lot less of pretty much everything compared to Crouch - he does provide an extra tackle a game and an extra centre clearance - but that extra centre clearance is almost always a hack kick which doesn’t result in anything positive… see his pretty abysmal score involvement statistic for proof.

If we were to get serious about selection, then Sloane would be first to go. He really has been less than ordinary this year… compare his output to other senior midfielders in the twilight of their careers (Boak, Pendles, Selwood etc.) and you find that he lags behind them all badly. It’s incredibly sad and I hope that we can find a new role for him to contribute in, but yikes, he is a long way off providing anything of value to the team right now.

 

[SellarStardom]

Murphy, Rowe, McHenry and Rachelle is not the model we need up forward. We need to have Keays/Sloane in there with 2 of Rowe, Murphy and McHenry making way. My pick would be Rowe and McHenry. This would allow us to bring in Berry and possibly Hately or go left field and go with Newchurch, his speed would worry a few players in defense.

Our backline needs work with Hinge out the obvious choice is Hamill or Worrell. Cook needs to play SANFL as he has been stuffed around too much. I wouldn't be against dropping Schoeberg to the 2nds either or play him only in the middle.

The last piece is to drop ROB for Strawnie or Thilthorpe, I like the latter as he can get involved but against Nankervis??

 

[conVINCEd]

More fun stat facts with me, Miss Vanessa! Below are some relevant stats which I think provide an insight into how well both Crouch and Sloane are doing this year:

Sloane:
19.7 disposals
62.7% disposal efficiency
51.6% kicking efficiency
4.7 clangers
3.3 turnovers
5.7 clearances
2.0 centre clearances
3.7 marks (0 contested)
0 goals
4.7 score involvements
5 tackles
225 metres gained

Crouch
28.5 disposals
75.4% disposal efficiency
55% kicking efficiency
3.5 clangers
3 turnovers
4.8 clearances
0.8 centre clearances
3.8 marks (0 contested)
0 goals
7.3 score involvements
3.5 tackles
213.4 metres gained

Aside from a few memorable horrible, horrible kicks, I think Crouch has actually been solid this season and has been involved in quite a bit of what decent play we’ve had. Sloane has been bog ordinary in all the games he’s been involved in this season. He provides a hell of a lot less of pretty much everything compared to Crouch - he does provide an extra tackle a game and an extra centre clearance - but that extra centre clearance is almost always a hack kick which doesn’t result in anything positive… see his pretty abysmal score involvement statistic for proof.

If we were to get serious about selection, then Sloane would be first to go. He really has been less than ordinary this year… compare his output to other senior midfielders in the twilight of their careers (Boak, Pendles, Selwood etc.) and you find that he lags behind them all badly. It’s incredibly sad and I hope that we can find a new role for him to contribute in, but yikes, he is a long way off providing anything of value to the team right now.

Interesting; appreciate the context. [Sloane’s I50 average of 1.7 is bloody diabolical too]

Crouch’s higher possession tally is a negative in my view - he constantly goes backwards (it’s his first instinct), handballs to teammates under severe pressure, handballs to O’Brien (never the right option), falls over at every opportunity and his searing lack of pace means opponents run away from him with ease.

He’s everything we don’t need in our midfield right now and we have a younger option performing incredibly well at SANFL level in Berry.

 

[jenny61_99]

Yep - Matt has to go out this week

It’s the style of game he’s playing , no defensive stuff and handball happy slowing us up

His lack of versatility also , can’t place him anywhere else if he’s struggling in the middle

It’s almost like he’s playing in a fog… he seems to have lost his decision making ability, handballs to someone either under immediate threat or at their feet. So slow to react.

 

[Crows I Am]

Was listening to AA and someone suggested the Thilthorpe to ruck idea and Blight the Messia loved the idea. AFC make it so. Could be the inspired move of the season.

Don't mind it, basically gives us an extra midfielder at the centre bounce.

 

[SellarStardom]

Let's get McAdam or Newchurch in and drop McHenry, Rowe or Murphy. Neither of the three give any defender concern where as both these two offer something different. By way of stats Rowe is the most effective in goals, tackles and possessions

 

[texanmike]

Was listening to AA and someone suggested the Thilthorpe to ruck idea and Blight the Messia loved the idea. AFC make it so. Could be the inspired move of the season.

Yeah that would never happen the adelaide football club doesn’t think outside of the box

 

[OldCrowBloke]

Yeah - he wont ever be Talia but dropping him now would hurt more than help. I would also like to see some more

True - but the Tahlia type role can be handled by Butts. I would love to see Billy become more of the Nathan Bock. Probably a pipe-dream, but it’s his only hope of a career.

 

[ams4crows]

Are we expecting the Crowd to cheer Tex the first few times he touches it this upcoming home game because of all the boo's last week? Will the club and it Supporters then get trashed by the media for supporting Tex and be called Racit sympathizes?

Footy Classified just said Craig Kelly got into a fight at the game who is Tex's manager with Essendon fan because he was continuously abusing Tex using the most foul language that the incident was reported to the AFL integrity unit and they suggested that Tex will probably be booed for the rest of his career and that it was deserved. How do we as fans feel about all this? Do any indigenous fans still have an issue with Tex being in the team and would cheering him make you feel uncomfortable?

 

[George Kramer]

Yep - Matt has to go out this week

It’s the style of game he’s playing , no defensive stuff and handball happy slowing us up

His lack of versatility also , can’t place him anywhere else if he’s struggling in the middle

Nicks had a crack at Brad for this same thing didn’t he? So let’s see if he’s consistent

 

[SellarStardom]

Actually starting to think Davis is a good replacement for Hinge, good speed and neat skills, but happy with Hamill as well.

The SANFL highlight the other week against the Port Magpies of Davis burning off the opponent putting the ball out in front of Newchurch to burn his opponent and then end in a goal to McAdam was very nice

 

[1970crow]

Its disgraceful that three of those are senior players.

To think this is because of them panicking and shanking kicks is the reason too, you could maybe excuse if it was due to age/injury.

They lacked composure in clutch moments of the game. The cleansing of the 2017 GF team must continue.

lack of composure and panicked disposal is a sign of lack of trust in the body. We know Sloane is done, the other 2 quite likely too. Maybe Crouch is just due to lost faith than total breakdown though.

 

[1970crow]

Schoenberg was good against Port and then we reduced his midfield minutes, we are messing with his head and confidence.
ROB should go.

But if we are serious about rewarding performance, Hamill and Berry have to come in.

selection integrity is only applied when keeping kids out of the side. It certainly doesn't outweigh continuity, experience and non-statistical roles.

 

[1970crow]

Can’t argue with any of this. I wouldn’t underestimate Nicks commitment to Frampton (having spent time together at Port). What other player has been afforded the opportunity to reinvent themselves like Frampton under Nicks? I think this one has a year or two to run before finally getting a line put through it.

And that’ll be 20-30 games that we should be putting into Worrell.

billy will get a 1 year extension, so hopefully outlasts Nicks.

 

[1970crow]

??

Sloane's only missed the one game, played against the Dockers, Pies and Bombers.

i'd manage both of them for a few weeks. Have them do a 6 week mini preseason together. Neither is moving well or contributing positively. But at least Matt's minutes were managed, Sloane is still being treated like he's a vital cog rather than the liability he actually is.

Wonder where the posters are that had him at half forward with bursts through our deepened midfield? What we're seeing is a strongly held club philosophy on selection and midfield strategy. Coaches don't get employed if they don't present aligned philosophies.

 

[1970crow]

dont expect any midfield changes this week boys, burns has said the lower level need to play at least a month of good football to break into the senior team

nothing we already didn't know. Senior players aren't subject to being accountable for form.