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Nice to hear our Premier on AA just now talking up the China game and tbe excitement of PAFC being the first South Australian ;) AFL team to play in China and being the arrowhead of AFL in China. Also highly praised the work in achieving this by a 'good mate of his' who now works for PAFC (I assume he means Andrew Hunter)
 
OneGreatClub said:
Nice to hear our Premier on AA just now talking up the China game and tbe excitement of PAFC being the first South Australian ;) AFL team to play in China and being the arrowhead of AFL in China. Also highly praised the work in achieving this by a 'good mate of his' who now works for PAFC (I assume he means Andrew Hunter)
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Yes, he does. Andrew was the PAFC exec who was in Shanghai this week with David Stevenson of the AFL tying the last few knots on the Jiangwan Stadium bundle of complication. There will be an official announcement, one way or the other, latest the day before the 2017 draw is released; I believe that's this Thursday.
 
OneGreatClub said:
Nice to hear our Premier on AA just now talking up the China game and tbe excitement of PAFC being the first South Australian ;) AFL team to play in China and being the arrowhead of AFL in China. Also highly praised the work in achieving this by a 'good mate of his' who now works for PAFC (I assume he means Andrew Hunter)
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Hellgood said:
No I disagree. Love or hate her journalism, I don't think Wilson could ever really be accused of trying to fit in by giving the people popular opinions. The contempt she holds for the likes of Rowe is pretty evident.

She's a pretty cynical type. Whilst I'm fully on board with what we're trying to do and admired what we've achieved already with the China strategy, I can see why those who don't hold an interest in Port harbour some scepticism. It's pretty ambitious and at times seemingly to good to be true.
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Big Bob McLean used to say: "The sponsor of your enemy is your enemy. And, make no mistake, anyone who is paid by the sponsor of your enemy is your enemy, too."
Okay, maybe Big Bob didn't say it quite like that, but he sure thought it. I heard him.

I like vanilla icecream, but I intensely dislike vanilla football clubs. The Crows are vanilla. Their spokesmen are vanilla, every single one of them, the next one more vanilla than the spokesman before him, or her.
Andrew Fagan insulted our CEO to his face last year when he called what we are trying to do in China a 'sideshow'.
KT took it personally. I know, because we exchanged emails right after it happened, and we also had a good laugh about it when we met up in Hong Kong after the MoU was signed in Shanghai in April.
Because my CEO took that ignorant slap in the face personally, I took it personally ... on behalf of my Club.

Yesterday, I was a bit narky. Sorry about that. I was worried that I might've upset you, Hellgood and I didn't sleep a wink last night. Actually I did, but I needed a extra sleeping tab to do so. Yesterday I was suffering from cabin fever, courtesy of the typhoon that had me locked away all day and which affected the internet, my sole means of entertainment. Also I've hit a bit of a block between chapters 5 and 6 of the book I'm writing. Bad day all round, yesterday.

Now, back to Caro. Yes, she's a very good journalist. At least she used to be. I have posted on this subject in other threads, so I won't delve into it here. But anyone who assumes that a journalist, whose employer sponsors a particular footy club, is not under actual or implied pressure to cater to that sponsorship with what he or she writes, or what he or she says when she's on radio with a pair of stooges planted there by the vanilla football club being sponsored by her employer is - in the mind of this decaying cynic - being a tad naive.

Ah but Caro's not like that, you may protest. Caro is a class above. Caro is straight. Caro is the old school hack who has standards, the only one left on earth who does.

Okay, then why does the Club no longer give her first dibs on a story coming out of Alberton that the Club wants to go national?

My reading is that Patrick Smith, yeah that guy, is now in front of Caro in the Port Adelaide Pulitzer Parade.
Certainly News Corp is miles ahead of Fairfax, with the Australian being the Club's favourite national rag.

Having said that, let's see who comes out first with a national article this week, re the official announcement of whether the game in Shanghai in May is on ... or off.

PS: BTW, because of what took place in Shanghai in April we have a top connection with the resident correspondent there of the Australian Financial Review.
 
OneGreatClub said:
Nice to hear our Premier on AA just now talking up the China game and tbe excitement of PAFC being the first South Australian ;) AFL team to play in China and being the arrowhead of AFL in China. Also highly praised the work in achieving this by a 'good mate of his' who now works for PAFC (I assume he means Andrew Hunter)
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#sideshow
#organicgrowth
 
Lockhart Road said:
I like vanilla icecream, but I intensely dislike vanilla football clubs. The Crows are vanilla. Their spokesmen are vanilla, every single one of them, the next one more vanilla than the spokesman before him, or her.
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You've got it in one, LR. Exactly why they'll never win anything. Too afraid to step on toes, which means they're too afraid to stand for anything. Their positioning as the 'team for all South Australians' is a reflection of the myopic cesspool of an attitude that inhibits progress in the state they claim to represent. All you need to do is take a walk down Rundle Mall - what color did they re-pave it in? ****ing grey. Why? Because grey is safe.

It's why I knew they'd never have the balls to land Gibbs. That would be putting be putting their nuts in the vice and saying 'we think we're close to a flag, we don't need another first round draft pick', like we did when we got Ryder and Dixon.

Give me a club like Port Adelaide that is prepared to take a risk, that is prepared to **** up, that is prepared to make mistakes. Give me a club that is prepared to trade out its future first round pick and go all in on this years draft. That is prepared to do what no other club has done and actually cultivate relationships in China and actually be ambassadors for the game on a global stage rather than a pissant South Australian one.

When the China game is announced - and I believe it will be - I'll be booking my flights to Shanghai, because I'll want to be there to witness history in the making. And when I sit in the stands and hear the roar at the first bounce in Jiangwan Stadium, I'll know that it's because Port Adelaide - and the people who are a part of it like yourself - aren't vanilla that it was possible.
 
Janus said:
You've got it in one, LR. Exactly why they'll never win anything. Too afraid to step on toes, which means they're too afraid to stand for anything. Their positioning as the 'team for all South Australians' is a reflection of the myopic cesspool of an attitude that inhibits progress in the state they claim to represent. All you need to do is take a walk down Rundle Mall - what color did they re-pave it in? ******* grey. Why? Because grey is safe.

It's why I knew they'd never have the balls to land Gibbs. That would be putting be putting their nuts in the vice and saying 'we think we're close to a flag, we don't need another first round draft pick', like we did when we got Ryder and Dixon.

Give me a club like Port Adelaide that is prepared to take a risk, that is prepared to **** up, that is prepared to make mistakes. Give me a club that is prepared to trade out its future first round pick and go all in on this years draft. That is prepared to do what no other club has done and actually cultivate relationships in China and actually be ambassadors for the game on a global stage rather than a pissant South Australian one.

When the China game is announced - and I believe it will be - I'll be booking my flights to Shanghai, because I'll want to be there to witness history in the making. And when I sit in the stands and hear the roar at the first bounce in Jiangwan Stadium, I'll know that it's because Port Adelaide - and the people who are a part of it like yourself - aren't vanilla that it was possible.
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Is it fate that China is paved in Black & White?

By the Portuguese no less!

:p

Senado-Square3.jpg

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Lockhart Road said:
Big Bob McLean used to say: "The sponsor of your enemy is your enemy. And, make no mistake, anyone who is paid by the sponsor of your enemy is your enemy, too."
Okay, maybe Big Bob didn't say it quite like that, but he sure thought it. I heard him.

I like vanilla icecream, but I intensely dislike vanilla football clubs. The Crows are vanilla. Their spokesmen are vanilla, every single one of them, the next one more vanilla than the spokesman before him, or her.
Andrew Fagan insulted our CEO to his face last year when he called what we are trying to do in China a 'sideshow'.
KT took it personally. I know, because we exchanged emails right after it happened, and we also had a good laugh about it when we met up in Hong Kong after the MoU was signed in Shanghai in April.
Because my CEO took that ignorant slap in the face personally, I took it personally ... on behalf of my Club.

Yesterday, I was a bit narky. Sorry about that. I was worried that I might've upset you, Hellgood and I didn't sleep a wink last night. Actually I did, but I needed a extra sleeping tab to do so. Yesterday I was suffering from cabin fever, courtesy of the typhoon that had me locked away all day and which affected the internet, my sole means of entertainment. Also I've hit a bit of a block between chapters 5 and 6 of the book I'm writing. Bad day all round, yesterday.

Now, back to Caro. Yes, she's a very good journalist. At least she used to be. I have posted on this subject in other threads, so I won't delve into it here. But anyone who assumes that a journalist, whose employer sponsors a particular footy club, is not under actual or implied pressure to cater to that sponsorship with what he or she writes, or what he or she says when she's on radio with a pair of stooges planted there by the vanilla football club being sponsored by her employer is - in the mind of this decaying cynic - being a tad naive.

Ah but Caro's not like that, you may protest. Caro is a class above. Caro is straight. Caro is the old school hack who has standards, the only one left on earth who does.

Okay, then why does the Club no longer give her first dibs on a story coming out of Alberton that the Club wants to go national?

My reading is that Patrick Smith, yeah that guy, is now in front of Caro in the Port Adelaide Pulitzer Parade.
Certainly News Corp is miles ahead of Fairfax, with the Australian being the Club's favourite national rag.

Having said that, let's see who comes out first with a national article this week, re the official announcement of whether the game in Shanghai in May is on ... or off.

PS: BTW, because of what took place in Shanghai in April we have a top connection with the resident correspondent there of the Australian Financial Review.
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Like any journalist Caro has her own agendas. Maybe my opinion only but I've never really had any reason to believe that they're influenced by one of her employers. From what I've heard of her chats with the 5aa cheerleaders, it comes across to me as she treats them with contempt and is actually there to provide a point of conflict. Similarly I see Smith as his own man. To be honest I find him a bit miserable to read with his incessant whining and negativity, but his opinions are undoubtedly his own - which is to be respected even though I usually disagree.

I share your dislike of the Crows, but it's unquestionable that they've made some good decisions since the removal of the previous regime. Obviously whatever they do, we aren't going to appreciate and vice-versa, because that's what makes footy clubs different - they're targeted towards particular people. As much as Riccuito comes across as arrogant, it's pretty hard to argue that he hasn't got the club on the same page pulling in the same direction. The method is not one we agree on or buy into (or we'd be supporting them), but that's the path for them to take. We had that same kind of feeling throughout 2013 and 2014 and as we have seen with Adelaide when the wider media (not talking about local tinpot cheerleaders) sense that unity they do jump on board with the tyre pumping and feel good stories.

We've certainly had plenty of notable coverage in the Fin over the past couple of years with some high quality articles, I think that's indicative of the clubs aims being recognised as strongly in alignment with the papers interest in the relationships between the Australian and Asian (particularly Chinese) business community. In my mind the fact that they remain so interested in what we are doing validates somewhat the means by which we are going about professionally building our profile over there. They sense a success story and on results so far I think they will get it (and in some ways already have).

Anyway I've just realised it's ten to four on a Sunday morning and I'm debating the state of Australian journalism before going to work. Sometimes you've got to question yourself and what on earth you are doing! :$
 

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not sure if anyone was listening to the roast this morning but they did say the proposed game in China will be in the fixture and it'll be against Gold Coast.
 
brad the brain said:
That top photo looks like Salvador in Brazil.
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I'm sure it's the Portuguese connection.

I went to Macau in 2012 and when I saw that sensational paving in Senado Square (in my previous post) I thought that it would be great if we could make Rundle Mall unique and iconic like that with the redevelopment. Not exactly the same obviously, but something bold that would almost become an attraction in itself.

Some Indigenous artwork, a binary colour pattern with an embedded message, a big f@#king rainbow, it could be anything!

But no, they ripped up grey pavers and replaced them with grey pavers. What does that say?

Janus nailed it above.
 
Lockhart Road said:
Big Bob McLean used to say: "The sponsor of your enemy is your enemy. And, make no mistake, anyone who is paid by the sponsor of your enemy is your enemy, too."
Okay, maybe Big Bob didn't say it quite like that, but he sure thought it. I heard him.

I like vanilla icecream, but I intensely dislike vanilla football clubs. The Crows are vanilla. Their spokesmen are vanilla, every single one of them, the next one more vanilla than the spokesman before him, or her.
Andrew Fagan insulted our CEO to his face last year when he called what we are trying to do in China a 'sideshow'.
KT took it personally. I know, because we exchanged emails right after it happened, and we also had a good laugh about it when we met up in Hong Kong after the MoU was signed in Shanghai in April.
Because my CEO took that ignorant slap in the face personally, I took it personally ... on behalf of my Club.

Yesterday, I was a bit narky. Sorry about that. I was worried that I might've upset you, Hellgood and I didn't sleep a wink last night. Actually I did, but I needed a extra sleeping tab to do so. Yesterday I was suffering from cabin fever, courtesy of the typhoon that had me locked away all day and which affected the internet, my sole means of entertainment. Also I've hit a bit of a block between chapters 5 and 6 of the book I'm writing. Bad day all round, yesterday.

Now, back to Caro. Yes, she's a very good journalist. At least she used to be. I have posted on this subject in other threads, so I won't delve into it here. But anyone who assumes that a journalist, whose employer sponsors a particular footy club, is not under actual or implied pressure to cater to that sponsorship with what he or she writes, or what he or she says when she's on radio with a pair of stooges planted there by the vanilla football club being sponsored by her employer is - in the mind of this decaying cynic - being a tad naive.

Ah but Caro's not like that, you may protest. Caro is a class above. Caro is straight. Caro is the old school hack who has standards, the only one left on earth who does.

Okay, then why does the Club no longer give her first dibs on a story coming out of Alberton that the Club wants to go national?

My reading is that Patrick Smith, yeah that guy, is now in front of Caro in the Port Adelaide Pulitzer Parade.
Certainly News Corp is miles ahead of Fairfax, with the Australian being the Club's favourite national rag.

Having said that, let's see who comes out first with a national article this week, re the official announcement of whether the game in Shanghai in May is on ... or off.

PS: BTW, because of what took place in Shanghai in April we have a top connection with the resident correspondent there of the Australian Financial Review.
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Don't worry about upsetting hellgood mate.I enjoy upsetting him.
You Lockhardt Road should apologise to no one.
 
Pappagallo said:
I'm sure it's the Portuguese connection.

I went to Macau in 2012 and when I saw that sensational paving in Senado Square (in my previous post) I thought that it would be great if we could make Rundle Mall unique and iconic like that with the redevelopment. Not exactly the same obviously, but something bold that would almost become an attraction in itself.

Some Indigenous artwork, a binary colour pattern with an embedded message, a big f@#king rainbow, it could be anything!

But no, they ripped up grey pavers and replaced them with grey pavers. What does that say?

Janus nailed it above.
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The Pelouhrino in Salvador Brazil.Looks similar but the Chinese version is kept in better nick it seems
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wharfie_1870 said:
Gina Rinehart's company claims bid price 'essentially the same' as Australian syndicate
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Its 12 properties vs 11 properties bid as Anna Creek Station has been removed from the Hancock/CRED bid due to the sensitivities over Wommera rocket range. This was today's story on ABC Radio's flagship program AM this morning. The full transcript isn't up but you can listen at the link.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2016/s4561832.htm
It's official - the all-Australian syndicate vying for control of the Kidman cattle empire is offering 386 million dollars for the nation's largest private landholder. In dollar terms, that puts it a nose ahead of the preferred Australian-Chinese bid, led by mining magnate Gina Rinehart.

But a deciding factor may well be what Kidman family shareholders believe is the best way to preserve Sir Sidney Kidman's legacy - and that has both bidding groups talking up their connections with the iconic pastoralist. More from National Rural and Regional Correspondent Dominique Schwartz.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2016/s4561832.htm

On the weekend I found out Mr Gui's Shanghai CRED will be basing his Australian HQ in Adelaide in Grenfell St, whether this transaction happens or not. His group has previously purchased a couple of other large rural properties

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-11/wa-pastoral-sale-to-shanghai-cred-chinese-approved/7918598

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31390835/wa-s-big-farms-sold-to-chinese-company/#page1
 
If Gina has been thinking on her feet, which I've no doubt she has, she will at the appropriate time put in her own non-FIRB-approval-required bid for Anna Creek and The Peake. That would ensure the entire Kidman portfolio stays together in a single pair of Aussie hands to give maximum continued strength to the Kidman brand.

Mr Gui's office in Grenfell Street, eh? I can seeing him stepping off his doorstep to lead the March From The Mall, complete with our 20,000 new Chinese members.
Andrew Fagan .... now that's a sideshow.
 
snozulu said:
Port Adelaide are playing in China against Gold Coast on Sunday, May 21.

"It is going to be huge and has the potential to set the club up for decades" - David Koch.
Take as you will as i got this off of the facebook page. I couldn't find a link to the source.
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Which Facebook page?

Not this one.
 
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