Good hands and used to be a reliable kick for goal but has been less accurate of late and is lazy defensively.
Think Medhurst in his last year at Freo.
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Good hands and used to be a reliable kick for goal but has been less accurate of late and is lazy defensively.
Think Medhurst in his last year at Freo.
**** me Dom...medhurst tewnty weeks injured and two years retired would still be better than McKinley...that's harsh man
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...igers-collins-20101008-16c4o.html?from=age_sb
So according to Emma Quayle, we may have given up on getting a player in return for Tarrant. Getting their second rounder would be ideal. Considering we're likely to send a draft pick to Adelaide for Griffin, it makes sense that we would look to secure another one.
I don't buy into the whole making Tarrant go to the draft and picking him up again idea. It's stupid and we're only hurting ourselves, as we would go into the season one player down. I think you'll find all the recruiters would be pretty friendly, so chances are a little good will would get you further than purposely hurting both a club and player. Trying to stick it up Collingwood sounds good when you're sitting behind a computer, but it just doesn't make sense in the real world.
But still, we lose Tarrant + the draft pick we use to pick him, but we get an extra pick for Tarrant leaving in the first place.
So essentially we lose Tarrant twice, and we gain an extra pick for Tarrant leaving.
Next year we would get an extra pick because Tarrant is no longer on our list.
Essentially, we lose Tarrant twice but get two extra picks for him this year and next year, so overall it evens out. It's impossible to 'lose' a spot on our list, let alone twice. At the end of every drafting and trading period we have 48 listed players. If we lose a player throughout the course of the season, then a player from the rookie list will take that spot, so we always have 40 senior listed players.
I'm not having a go at you either mate, it's quite confusing to think about.
The issue would be with the player managers. "Remember how you stitched up my client Chris Tarrant, well now I'm going to encourage players X, Y and Z to hold off until October to re-negotiate."
I don't think the footy managers would be that chummy, Collingwood are notorious for being difficult during trade week but the other clubs are forced to deal with them. I doubt there's any "good will" except for players like McKinley who are about to be de-listed anyway so their clubs practically give them away to get them to their preferred destination.
If Tarrant enters the PSD Fremantle won't pick him up but hopefully Carlton, Hawthorn or St Kilda will.
According to emma quayle in the age, we've asked for pick 43 and may also get 55 back
"Fremantle has asked Collingwood for pick No. 43 in exchange for Tarrant, who has said he would retire rather than join another club. That pick is Collingwood's first live choice in the draft, given the Magpies traded pick 25 for Andrew Krakouer and ruckman Jon Ceglar.
The third-round compensation pick the Pies yesterday received following Josh Fraser's move to the Gold Coast may come into play instead. Fremantle, which traded pick 55 to the Gold Coast on Thursday for VFL defender Peter Faulks, may also end up receiving that choice back from Collingwood, which got it as part of the Krakouer-Ceglar-Gold Coast trade." - from the above article.
Does that read:
Lose: Tarrant + Pick 61
Gain: Faulks + Pick 43.
or does it read:
Lose: Tarrant + Pick 61
Gain: Faulks
The third-round compensation pick the Pies yesterday received following Josh Fraser's move to the Gold Coast may come into play instead. Fremantle, which traded pick 55 to the Gold Coast on Thursday for VFL defender Peter Faulks, may also end up receiving that choice back from Collingwood, which got it as part of the Krakouer-Ceglar-Gold Coast trade." - from the above article.
Does that read:
Lose: Tarrant + Pick 61
Gain: Faulks + Pick 43.
or does it read:
Lose: Tarrant + Pick 61
Gain: Faulks
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I thought it meant
Lose: Tarrant
Gain: 43 + 55
or on aggregate
Lose: Tarrant + 55
Gain: 43 + 55 + 61 + Faulks
although the 'instead' may infer that they offer 55 for tarrant instead of 43
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Lose: Tarrant
Gain: Faulks, picks 61 and 55 ?
Edit: well 55 was ours to begin with so Faulk and 61 for tarrant, hope the club can do better but if thats a worst case senario at least its not walking away empty handed. I'd take faulks and 43 from trade week at this stage.
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Hey Chris 25 I think most people's thinking is that only FFC realise how good Taz as a defender is. Collingwood are hard enough to beat at the moment without Taz in their defence.If we are going to strengthen their side it would be nice to equally strengthen ours.
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49 got us Roberton in a 'shallow' draft last year.
If its the best we can do its the best we can do
If the earlier post about us "blinking" on the Warnock deal has any credence then we would best be served by standing firm than bear the reputation of being pushovers.
As pointed out, in the short term it was painful for Port to lose Stevens for nothing but since then their trading has been straightforward and no fiascoes like the one we're enduring now.
Do we really want to go through the humiliation again of being offered soon-to-be delisted players (Blight), relics (Davis/Fraser), unmotivated prima donnas (Medhurst) and lazy sods who won't follow the team plan (Anthony)?
As pointed out, in the short term it was painful for Port to lose Stevens for nothing but since then their trading has been straightforward and no fiascoes like the one we're enduring now.
Do we really want to go through the humiliation again of being offered soon-to-be delisted players (Blight), relics (Davis/Fraser), unmotivated prima donnas (Medhurst) and lazy sods who won't follow the team plan (Anthony)?
He won't chase.
No forward pressure, no interest.
His stats of forward pressure are quite good. In 2009 he was equal 9th in the comp for laying tackles inside the forward 50. He kicked 50 goals with 28 behinds but for some reason was not given much of a run in 2010.
I hear that he is a COMPLETE idiot who thinks that he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That will not sit well with Harvey AT ALL. Put MY attitude into his body and he would be KILLER! LOL
I think we will end up with 2 draft picks. Not very good compensation for such a player. I would like to pick up Blight if everything is good with him. Give us a chance to stick it up the Pies for a change.
It's funny because they bang on about how good Anthony is but then also how good their KPP stocks are and if you add Tarrant, who will instantly go ahead of Anthony, it's going to be even harder next year for Anthony to get into the side.
You would almost say they have an excess amount of KPP.
You would almost say they have an excess amount of KPP.
Agree that his 2009 form was good, but he was found out this year. A flat-track specialist who Mick played against bottom half clubs but wisely chose not put up against Geelong, St Kilda, Hawthorn etc. The exception was the Dogs who ran off him all day.
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Flat track specialist alright, kicked 4 on Tarrant last season. In fact, I don't think Freo have any young KPP that have kicked 50 goals in a season.
For the record Jack had post season shoulder surgery at the end of 2009 that ruined his preparation. He had been playing catch up all season. He was unable to build his fitness base and strength. He was well behind the eight-ball.
He is a "weird" cat but he can definitely play and is versatile- defence or attack.
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Injury and limited pre-season aside, JA was not going to replace Dawes or Cloke in the forward line, he isn't as big of a physical presence around the ground as Cloke or Dawes, also remember that we didn't lose a game for what 13 weeks or something ridiculous like that, why would we flirt with form and start experimenting?
Dawes wasn't ready last season and only played 4 games, not a surprise that JA had a hard time getting games when Dawes finally became ready to contribute.
JA was played down back in the VFL and was in fantastic form, but so were Harry O, Reid and Maxy, JA was never going to take over FB with Presti still going strong and Nathan Brown waiting in the line.
I prefer we keep him though, we been lucky with injuries this season.
Hey if a pick in the 40s is what Freo wants I hope the Pies accept this immediately.
Dawes wasn't ready last season and only played 4 games, not a surprise that JA had a hard time getting games when Dawes finally became ready to contribute.
JA was played down back in the VFL and was in fantastic form, but so were Harry O, Reid and Maxy, JA was never going to take over FB with Presti still going strong and Nathan Brown waiting in the line.
I prefer we keep him though, we been lucky with injuries this season.
Hey if a pick in the 40s is what Freo wants I hope the Pies accept this immediately.
Whilst Freo want our players and ex players to be happy. this is quite simply and insult considering that the Hawks and Blues would most likely give up their first Round pick for Taz. He has to be reasonable in this as well. The Pies are going to have to do better than a pick in the 40's because I really do think that the Dockers are ready to play Hardball here and make him run the gauntlet in the Draft.
It would send a VERY strong message in future for all trades, opposition clubs (as Port did) will say that Freo are not prepared to be bullied even with a star like Taz is dictating the terms.
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I'd take DockerLand1 as a KPP ahead of Anthony.
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