Didak2Dawes
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fraser, brown and lockyer aint depth, they're finished.
We are probably better off without presti.
medhurst, wellingham and down the track dick are the depth atm from that list.
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fraser, brown and lockyer aint depth, they're finished.
We are probably better off without presti.
medhurst, wellingham and down the track dick are the depth atm from that list.
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2015 Worsfold Medalist - Rowen Powell
Best 25:
Mitch Brown (Finding form in the WAFL as a forward).
Daniel Kerr (inj)
Chris Masten (inj)
Sam Butler (inj)
On Fire:
Callum Wilson (Second bag of 7 in the last two weeks)
Ash Hansen (21 goals in the last three games for Swans)
Ash Smith (Would of Debuted if not for an two week injury setback.)
Koby Stevens (Form is excellent for Easts but is being given time to overcome his OP).
Jordan Jones (Consistently amongst Peels best and pushing dam hard for selection).
Andrew Strijk (unlucky not to have been elevated and would have been had it not been for Stevenson and Hams equally brilliant WAFL form)
Tony Notte (Starting to press in the WAFL for Swan Districts)
Plus: Those that won't come straight back in.
Embley (Susp)
Houlihan (Foot)
B.Jones (Arm)
Mitch Brown (Finding form in the WAFL as a forward).
Daniel Kerr (inj)
Chris Masten (inj)
Sam Butler (inj)
On Fire:
Callum Wilson (Second bag of 7 in the last two weeks)
Ash Hansen (21 goals in the last three games for Swans)
Ash Smith (Would of Debuted if not for an two week injury setback.)
Koby Stevens (Form is excellent for Easts but is being given time to overcome his OP).
Jordan Jones (Consistently amongst Peels best and pushing dam hard for selection).
Andrew Strijk (unlucky not to have been elevated and would have been had it not been for Stevenson and Hams equally brilliant WAFL form)
Tony Notte (Starting to press in the WAFL for Swan Districts)
Plus: Those that won't come straight back in.
Embley (Susp)
Houlihan (Foot)
B.Jones (Arm)
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I don't think any side which has spent most of the year in the bottom 4 can really talk up its 'depth'.
Hawthorn have a few good players out but their performances indicate they have no depth whatsoever.
RE: OP, the likes of Leigh Brown, Josh Fraser and Tarkyn Lockyer waiting in the wings won't frighten the top sides. Geelong trounced Brisbane tonight without two proven performers in Corey and Ottens and man of the moment Podsiadly. Collingwood dominating without Jolly and Swan would be more newsworthy than with Macaffer getting a game instead of Lockyer.
Hawthorn have a few good players out but their performances indicate they have no depth whatsoever.
RE: OP, the likes of Leigh Brown, Josh Fraser and Tarkyn Lockyer waiting in the wings won't frighten the top sides. Geelong trounced Brisbane tonight without two proven performers in Corey and Ottens and man of the moment Podsiadly. Collingwood dominating without Jolly and Swan would be more newsworthy than with Macaffer getting a game instead of Lockyer.
Boris the Contradiction
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Put it this way.
Played VFL today.
Tarkyn - 220 AFL Games (Will play games this year)
Presti - 223 AFL Games (In our best 22)
Brown - 208 AFL Games (Will play more games this year)
Fraser - 197 AFL Games (ATM probably still considered in our best 22. I think Wood's better though)
Brad Dick (In our best 22)
Didn't play seniors or VFL this weekend (injured or rested)
Medhurst - 165 AFL Games (In our best 22)
Sharrod Wellingham (Would have been leading the B&F before he got injured 2 weeks ago and probably the most improved player in the competition)
You get the picture. It's not just depth it's quality depth
Go Pies.
Played VFL today.
Tarkyn - 220 AFL Games (Will play games this year)
Presti - 223 AFL Games (In our best 22)
Brown - 208 AFL Games (Will play more games this year)
Fraser - 197 AFL Games (ATM probably still considered in our best 22. I think Wood's better though)
Brad Dick (In our best 22)
Didn't play seniors or VFL this weekend (injured or rested)
Medhurst - 165 AFL Games (In our best 22)
Sharrod Wellingham (Would have been leading the B&F before he got injured 2 weeks ago and probably the most improved player in the competition)
You get the picture. It's not just depth it's quality depth
Go Pies.
The Falcon Strike
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have to say the spread of quality in the pies side is impressive
thought daisy's game on friday was one of his best - mainly because for the first time, he got the main tag over the likes of didak, pendles, swan et al - and although he didn't dominate like he has earlier this year - he still contributed and didn't go missing which he has been prone to do.
I still don't thihk Cloke is someone the pies would want to rely on in september - just can't see him being the difference agaist geelong or the aints.
but on the depth issue - heath shaw and o'brien were quiet on friday - and toover and johnson step up the rebounding from half back.
best of all - the games are enjoyable to watch.
hoping for a cats / pies GF
thought daisy's game on friday was one of his best - mainly because for the first time, he got the main tag over the likes of didak, pendles, swan et al - and although he didn't dominate like he has earlier this year - he still contributed and didn't go missing which he has been prone to do.
I still don't thihk Cloke is someone the pies would want to rely on in september - just can't see him being the difference agaist geelong or the aints.
but on the depth issue - heath shaw and o'brien were quiet on friday - and toover and johnson step up the rebounding from half back.
best of all - the games are enjoyable to watch.
hoping for a cats / pies GF
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As opposed to Collingwoods names? All part of your interchange exploiting machine no doubt?
By your definition only a squad producing stong team football at to a sound game plan can have any depth? I thought the whole point was to point out the oustanding "stars" who can't get a game rather than those consistent blokes who areant good enough to come straight back in because of injury/ suspension or team balance.
Wait two years you might find the very same names playing rubbish team football? Will it still count as depth then. Because it happens.
Every team has similar list depth, not every team has great list balance, or the necissary players in the right age/ form bracket to play football to contend for a premiership. Doesn't mean they wont though.
Allot of those "Names" are good enough to be playing AFL right now and play well. You could trade an Andrew Strijk for an Alan Toovey and im sure you would be a better team for it.
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We will see exactly how good their depth is on Friday night.
Amber Guzzler
Norm Smith Medallist
No Riewoldt, no saints, now that's an example of a lack of depth. 1 Injury, and the saints went from likely to 4 contenders to likely bottom of the 8 if they're lucky. That's the quintessential definition of no depth right there.
I don't think there's any single player in Collingwood that's crucial to our game. I think you cold probably replace any 3 or 4 players from any give game, and we'd still be the goods. Partly because the workload is so evenly spread. We don't have such a heavy reliance on a single player or a small group.
I don't think there's any single player in Collingwood that's crucial to our game. I think you cold probably replace any 3 or 4 players from any give game, and we'd still be the goods. Partly because the workload is so evenly spread. We don't have such a heavy reliance on a single player or a small group.
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Riewoldt is no Josh Fraser but is very important to his team which is obvious. Take Cloke out of Collingwood and the Pies would struggle and hes half the player Roo is. But at the end of the day Cloke provides the structure for the whole Pies side.
The Saints will easily make the 8 if not top 4, they dont exactly have the hardest run home. They still have to play Richmond twice, Adelaide Twice, Essendon Twice plus West Coast, Nth Melbourne, Hawthorn and Melbourne.
All very winable games.
Amber Guzzler
Norm Smith Medallist
I don't agree with that. Our forward line is pretty even, and certainly doesn't rely on Cloke kicking a bagful to win. Sure, if he was missing it would make a dent, but it certainly wouldn't be as devastating as the saints losing Riewoldt.
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Its not just about the goals or disposals Cloke gets its about structure. Take Cloke out means youve got Dawes taking the number one backmen and getting asked to lead further up the ground. As Dawes hasnt got the engine Cloke has he wouldnt get to as many contests creating uncertainy coming foward. As a result the whole team gets thrown out.
Dawes is getting the best backmen in 50% of the games and still doing well. But yeah, Cloke out makes us weaker no doubt, but may not be enough to stop us from rolling along. But we couldn't take a full strength Geelong without him.
His '07 finals series was dominating when he was in the same nick he's in now. Happy to have him there. With J Brown sliding down he'll be the only true CHF left in the game shortly.
J Brown by injuries, not by talend or effort. Even in a year where he proclaims to be so fit he's breaking down again before our eyes.
Who else in the league besides Brown and Cloke actually play CHF? Riewoldt maybe? Think he starts too deep to be considered a CHF, same with the Pav.
A CHF in my view starts about 40m out and moves up and back and is a marking mother f****r
Nobody ever said Geelong didnt have depth.
Nobody said Geelong didn't have depth but I suggest you check the OP, he may have asked for a comparison.
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Leo
This thread doesn't make sense. To compare a list of a teams 'depth', you need to go through all the players who are clearly in your best 22 players, and then look at the players whom are outside that to compare. Simply posting the injury list is not depth. Players on the injury list whom are best 22 shouldn't be included. Players currently in the senior side whom aren't best 22 but covering for injury should be.
Therefore for Collingwood it would be Fraser, L Brown, Lockyer, O'Bree, Macaffer, N Brown, Dick. I don't have Dick in the best 22, because the only player I could see him come in for is Davis. I still have Davis because of what he can potentially do if he gets back into form.
Therefore for Collingwood it would be Fraser, L Brown, Lockyer, O'Bree, Macaffer, N Brown, Dick. I don't have Dick in the best 22, because the only player I could see him come in for is Davis. I still have Davis because of what he can potentially do if he gets back into form.
Are you kidding me? Have you watched any footy this year? Ben Johnson has easily been in our top ten players this year!
As opposed to Collingwoods names? All part of your interchange exploiting machine no doubt?
By your definition only a squad producing stong team football at to a sound game plan can have any depth? I thought the whole point was to point out the oustanding "stars" who can't get a game rather than those consistent blokes who areant good enough to come straight back in because of injury/ suspension or team balance.
Wait two years you might find the very same names playing rubbish team football? Will it still count as depth then. Because it happens.
Every team has similar list depth, not every team has great list balance, or the necissary players in the right age/ form bracket to play football to contend for a premiership. Doesn't mean they wont though.
Allot of those "Names" are good enough to be playing AFL right now and play well. You could trade an Andrew Strijk for an Alan Toovey and im sure you would be a better team for it.
Well that was a very intelligent comment
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