List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

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I would be open to trading Cameron - Cox is our best tap ruckman. One of the ingredients i like a ruckman to have is a bit of mongrel. Cameron lacks that.

How long until Steene is ready? Begg?

3-4 years and never.
 

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I would be open to trading Cameron - Cox is our best tap ruckman. One of the ingredients i like a ruckman to have is a bit of mongrel. Cameron lacks that.

How long until Steene is ready? Begg?
Begg will never be an AFL ruckman. If we keep him, it's to be a KPP.
 
Sydney will get Grundy and Port will get Sweet. I’d be happy to let Cox and Cameron battle it out for the ruck/forward spot next year and if Cameron requests to move on so be it.
This. Moyle is younger than Cameron and at the level as is - cut our losses. Cox can continue at AFL level as Oscar develops in the VFL.

I'd go one step further and cut Begg, drafting or trading in another ruck.
 
2020 was a good draft year for us.

RookieMe: Finlay Macrae

RookieMe: Jack Ginnivan.

Macrae had a projected 12-25 range, another 25-50 range. If he'd played in the midfield for the then NAB League, he probably would have gone higher. He didn't and faced COVID challenges which probably impacted development. He played half-forward flank, not midfield during that campaign. Ultimately, I think his 2km time trial time was what helped draft him (6:17). Ginnivan went in underrated and off the back of a humble 2019 NAB League season but he did average more fantasy points than Macrae and had enough raw skills.

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RookieMe: 2020 Draft Central Phantom Draft: First Round prediction (11 Macrae)
AFL: Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, your club's whispers (20 Macrae).


Macrae, McInnes, McCreery and Ginnivan all look like they're at or near AFL level. Four hits from a draft is good. Very good. I rate Ginnivan in the top five of his class, McCreery top 10. Macrae and McInnes have the potential to be top 20, top 10 in a few years.

We hit Henry and Poulter, too. Both left but they weren't misses.
 
It definitely would be. Suppose just a matter of how long is he willing to wait.
Yep. But he might have to wait here too. He's not yet shown that he's better than Cameron. Whilst we're up at the pointy end of the ladder, we're picking the best team and Moyle could easily be stuck behind him for a few years - I don't think we've seen the best of Cameron yet.
 
Yep. But he might have to wait here too. He's not yet shown that he's better than Cameron. Whilst we're up at the pointy end of the ladder, we're picking the best team and Moyle could easily be stuck behind him for a few years - I don't think we've seen the best of Cameron yet.
If Cameron can return to his pre-injury form from this season then he is a very solid ruck option. Hopefully can start clunking marks again
 
2020 was a good draft year for us.

RookieMe: Finlay Macrae

RookieMe: Jack Ginnivan.

Macrae had a projected 12-25 range, another 25-50 range. If he'd played in the midfield for the then NAB League, he probably would have gone higher. He didn't and faced COVID challenges which probably impacted development. He played half-forward flank, not midfield during that campaign. Ultimately, I think his 2km time trial time was what helped draft him (6:17). Ginnivan went in underrated and off the back of a humble 2019 NAB League season but he did average more fantasy points than Macrae and had enough raw skills.

Phantoms
RookieMe: 2020 Draft Central Phantom Draft: First Round prediction (11 Macrae)
AFL: Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, your club's whispers (20 Macrae).


Macrae, McInnes, McCreery and Ginnivan all look like they're at or near AFL level. Four hits from a draft is good. Very good. I rate Ginnivan in the top five of his class, McCreery top 10. Macrae and McInnes have the potential to be top 20, top 10 in a few years.

We hit Henry and Poulter, too. Both left but they weren't misses.

You're going way too early saying it's four hits.
 
2020 was a good draft year for us.

RookieMe: Finlay Macrae

RookieMe: Jack Ginnivan.

Macrae had a projected 12-25 range, another 25-50 range. If he'd played in the midfield for the then NAB League, he probably would have gone higher. He didn't and faced COVID challenges which probably impacted development. He played half-forward flank, not midfield during that campaign. Ultimately, I think his 2km time trial time was what helped draft him (6:17). Ginnivan went in underrated and off the back of a humble 2019 NAB League season but he did average more fantasy points than Macrae and had enough raw skills.

Phantoms
RookieMe: 2020 Draft Central Phantom Draft: First Round prediction (11 Macrae)
AFL: Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, your club's whispers (20 Macrae).


Macrae, McInnes, McCreery and Ginnivan all look like they're at or near AFL level. Four hits from a draft is good. Very good. I rate Ginnivan in the top five of his class, McCreery top 10. Macrae and McInnes have the potential to be top 20, top 10 in a few years.

We hit Henry and Poulter, too. Both left but they weren't misses.
Is near-AFL level a hit? McInnes & Macrae have a way to go before being considered hits
 

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You're going way too early saying it's four hits.
Is near-AFL level a hit? McInnes & Macrae have a way to go before being considered hits
Macrae would be a regular in the AFL at another team, McInnes needs an opportunity.

Either way, you omit McInnes and Macrae and substitute Henry and Poulter. Not at our club, but they were hits given Poulter is playing AFL for the Dogs.
 
Macrae would be a regular in the AFL at another team, McInnes needs an opportunity.

Either way, you omit McInnes and Macrae and substitute Henry and Poulter. Not at our club, but they were hits given Poulter is playing AFL for the Dogs.
I am not sure Poulter is a hit due to playing poor football for a non-finals team
 
Macrae would be a regular in the AFL at another team, McInnes needs an opportunity.

Either way, you omit McInnes and Macrae and substitute Henry and Poulter. Not at our club, but they were hits given Poulter is playing AFL for the Dogs.
Macrae would be a regular at another team??????????? Tassie maybe but that's about it!
 
Is near-AFL level a hit? McInnes & Macrae have a way to go before being considered hits
I think Reef has probably shown enough to say that he’s going to be a player. Macrae is way premature though.
 
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