List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[The Phantom]

I always wonder why they aren’t picked up then, 25 yo is a long time for no looks.

I asked Hine the same thing about Mihocek at Club42 once. He replied that sometimes players simply aren’t ready earlier.

Fair enough.

 

[schmiddi18]

Titch is all class - so glad we recruited him, and that he is finally a premiership player.

Hard to believe I used to think he was a ball hog flog (very wrong there). Good reminder that we only see a fraction of players.

 

[localfootylegend23]

Listened to a snippet of Tom Mitchell on the Unlaced Podcast.

One classy move he pulled off was gathering the reserves boys, telling them he'd been in their position before (although Sydney hadn't won), and showing them that they haven't missed out, their time is yet to come.

That's why we traded him in. Culture. You cannot measure little things like that and what it does for development. We found an unwanted but hungry player, traded him into the lineup and then let him work his magic.

Mitchell might be a veteran but we recruited him for a reason.

Saw this, super impressive by Tom in the moment, Great leadership, Love what he's brought to the table

 

[Mollythedolly]

Neither did Frampton or Leigh Brown. Both Collingwood premiership players.

Leigh Brown was a former top 10 draftee with 170-180 senior games under his belt. Pretty sure we were pretty confident in what we were getting. Biggest difference was the role we envisioned him playing.

 

[Pistol Night]

I would still rather have a role player like Frampton than a spud like Daniher

Big call. We'd be unbeatable with a target like Daniher up forward

 

[JuniorB]

Hard to believe I used to think he was a ball hog flog (very wrong there). Good reminder that we only see a fraction of players.

He routinely got 40-50 disposals against us when he was at Hawthorn.
The difference is that he has a more clearly defined role that suits his attributes now, and doesn't have to rack up huge numbers.
He was one of our best in the GF, and our young mids will learn a lot from him.
Along with Pendles, Titch provides a great role model for our young guys.

 

[Pistol Night]

Hard to believe I used to think he was a ball hog flog (very wrong there). Good reminder that we only see a fraction of players.

Titch said in his post GF podcast that he knew coming to us he didn't have to get 35-40 a game he just wanted to play to his strengths of contested footy and let Nick, Pendles, Jordy etc do the rest. He bought in beautifully and got rewarded

 

[WakeUpPies]

If Billy can learn to multi-task as a shutdown forward he’d be handy. His problem on GF day was he was so focused on stopping Andrews he forgot to look at the ball! There’s potential there. Could be a handy weapon if he can shut down the opposition’s primary rebounder and go for the ball when it’s to his advantage. Our leading goal kicker for the last how many ever seasons started as a defender too.

There needs to be continuity though, you can’t have him play different roles every week. Not many in the AFL are talented enough to do that well, let alone Billy.

 

[manicpie]

Big call. We'd be unbeatable with a target like Daniher up forward

Every now and then you wish you didn't make such big calls. Daniher would be a no brainer over Billy

 

[TW Sherrin]

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that confirms Adams knew all along he was leaving. I have no issue with that but at least be honest and tell the club.

 

[schmiddi18]

Titich said in his post GF podcast that he knew coming to us he didn't have to get 35-40 a game he just wanted to play to his strengths of contested footy and let Nick, Pendles, Jordy etc do the rest. He bought in beautifully and got rewarded

I think that reduced stress and pressure to accumulate that he felt at the Hawks.

 

[Pistol Night]

I think that reduced stress and pressure to accumulate that he felt at the Hawks.

The Hawks were straight out arseholes to him that last year if what he said in his podcast are true

 

[schmiddi18]

The Hawks were straight out arseholes to him that last year if what he said in his podcast are true

It’s certainly not a way to build culture but at least he came to the new family club.

 

[manicpie]

that confirms Adams knew all along he was leaving. I have no issue with that but at least be honest and tell the club.

As reported by manic weeks ago. Our Tay was more proactive than reactive

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

that confirms Adams knew all along he was leaving. I have no issue with that but at least be honest and tell the club.

I read it as he didn't really entertain thoughts of leaving till close to the GF, around the time he was injured, with some suggestion that he wasn't entirely happy playing bursts forward throughout the year. Didn't really read that he was plotting to move 'all along'.

 

[Gabbo64]

He may just be the spark we need for our flag defence.

I hope he's switched on!!!

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

that confirms Adams knew all along he was leaving. I have no issue with that but at least be honest and tell the club.

I'm not sure you know what "confirms" means - His manager was able to see the writing on the wall and did some groundwork for Tay, and there's absolutely no evidence that this was being done in the shadows, with the club in the dark about it.

 

[TW Sherrin]

I'm not sure you know what "confirms" means - His manager was able to see the writing on the wall and did some groundwork for Tay, and there's absolutely no evidence that this was being done in the shadows, with the club in the dark about it.

if they didn't tell the club wouldn't that be evidence?

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

if they didn't tell the club wouldn't that be evidence?

How would you find evidence that they didn't tell the club? Where has anyone confirmed that Taylor Adams acted in secret?

 

[schmiddi18]

I'm not sure you know what "confirms" means - His manager was able to see the writing on the wall and did some groundwork for Tay, and there's absolutely no evidence that this was being done in the shadows, with the club in the dark about it.

I’m not actually sure there was writing on the wall. He’d be in our best 23 this year had he remained but not as a midfielder. I’m not too shattered he left personally but he had some good plays throughout the year.

 

[petrie pie]

that confirms Adams knew all along he was leaving. I have no issue with that but at least be honest and tell the club.

Why would his manager keep asking if he was happy here ? if it was obvious we were winning most weeks he was in the team it does not make sense to me without an ulterior motive. He expects people to believe he had no intention of leaving until the GF was over.

I do not think he comes out of that interview with any credibility at all, he just seems to have a sense of entitlement to me we know he played his heart out for the team but it is a team game and he did no more than others have done over his journey at Collingwood.

I must say I have lost some respect for him since that interview.

 

[TradeDraft]

Why would his manager keep asking if he was happy here ? if it was obvious we were winning most weeks he was in the team it does not make sense to me without an ulterior motive. He expects people to believe he had no intention of leaving until the GF was over.

I do not think he comes out of that interview with any credibility at all, he just seems to have a sense of entitlement to me we know he played his heart out for the team but it is a team game and he did no more than others have done over his journey at Collingwood.

I must say I have lost some respect for him since that interview.

Kind of Glad he is gone with the Attitude he had in the Finals

 

[Pendles!]

I read it as he didn't really entertain thoughts of leaving till close to the GF, around the time he was injured, with some suggestion that he wasn't entirely happy playing bursts forward throughout the year. Didn't really read that he was plotting to move 'all along'.

I don’t have any issue with it at all.

Sounds like we weren’t gonna offer him anything serious, so his manager looked around for better security, while Adams concentrated on footy. It couldn’t have been handled much more respectfully imo.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Kind of Glad he is gone with the Attitude he had in the Finals

Did I miss something? What was this attitude during the finals of which we are apparently well rid?

 

[TradeDraft]

Did I miss something? What was this attitude during the finals of which we are apparently well rid?

He wanted out of the Club because we would not play him even with Injured