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No one will know the impact that the hit (and subsequent near-death experience) might have had on Petracca's confidence or hardness at the ball. Not suggesting he won't be a great player still but he might lose a few %
 
I find it laughable that people don’t think Trac won’t make it back to an elite level. He’s an ULTRA pro. He takes care of his body like he’s a messiah.

Take out his rookie year due to the ACL, plus the first 4 years forward, he hasn’t even played 100 afl games combined as an elite mid, so the mileage is also not there as a crash and bash contested beast.

Hes 29, but I dare say he still has at a minimum 5 years worth of his best footy ahead of him.

To think he would not be a huge get at whatever the cost, is blasphemous.

IMO expecting another 5 years of his best footy is ridiculous.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, all thought Dusty would have years as a dominant permanent forward at the end, given his one on one ability.

That didn’t exactly work out.
 

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It will be extremely disappointing if we lose out to coach-less Weagles for services of James Peatling. Let’s put our best foot forward on the trade front and get him. He’s exactly what we need.


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This comparison is doing my head in. Surely we all know by now the problems Beams had. Petracca has been a clear skin for 10 years. Stop buying into the media B.S.
IMO the comparison is fair. One had a huge gambling debt, got himself hooked on Oxy, manipulated friends and teammates to score gear and deliberately put his car into a pole. The other sometimes like to show people how to cook rigatoni.
 
IMO the comparison is fair. One had a huge gambling debt, got himself hooked on Oxy, manipulated friends and teammates to score gear and deliberately put his car into a pole. The other sometimes like to show people how to cook rigatoni.
Rigatoni is the devils work.
 
Unfortunately Richmond want a 1st round pick for Lynch. His wage would be bugger all though.
What is it with these clubs wanting first rounders for fringe players and old blokes who can’t even get on the park? Yet according to oppo supporters Noble is worth a 3rd rounder. I don’t get it.
 
I'd rather Goodwin, Pert and their clueless president all stay and Petracca come to us.
Roffey today on radio

My god
What a train wreck
Whateley couldnt believe what he was hearing


Demons really are a basket case

President Kate not with her finger on the pulse
From Joel smith and his old man
To goody not so goody
To Oliver’s misdemeanours
From mays boozing and punch ups
The brayshaw lynch mob carry on
No wonder petracca Neal bullen Pickett want to get the hell out of there


And their go to solution

Wheel out poor max to tell everyone the fires are under control
 
A comparison to Dusty after the injury is fair. He never returned to the same level he was, and his injury occurred when he was around 28/29 as well. I don't think paying what the Demons would want is worth the risk, particularly with his contract.
 
Roffey today on radio

My god
What a train wreck
Whateley couldnt believe what he was hearing


Demons really are a basket case

President Kate not with her finger on the pulse
From Joel smith and his old man
To goody not so goody
To Oliver’s misdemeanours
From mays boozing and punch ups
The brayshaw lynch mob carry on
No wonder petracca Neal bullen Pickett want to get the hell out of there


And their go to solution

Wheel out poor max to tell everyone the fires are under control
But remember…they are a much better side than us 💨💨💨
 
This comparison is doing my head in. Surely we all know by now the problems Beams had. Petracca has been a clear skin for 10 years. Stop buying into the media B.S.

Beams didn’t have mental health problems until he suddenly did. The year before we got him, he was a gun. Nobody knows what will happen with Petracca. But right now he’s bunkered down, hiding from an intense media circus, battling back from a big injury and clearly has some emotional baggage to work out of his system. I too hope he returns fully to his magnificent best but it’s far from certain and we should not be paying a trade cost as though he’s a shiny new Ferrari because he simply is not. A risk discount needs to be built into whatever price we’re willing to pay.

As an aside, if turning-29 Petracca is worth say two first rounders and $1.2m salary, what is Harley Reid worth? Or Nick Daicos? Must be 4 or 5 first rounders by the same yardstick?


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What is it with these clubs wanting first rounders for fringe players and old blokes who can’t even get on the park? Yet according to oppo supporters Noble is worth a 3rd rounder. I don’t get it.
Yep. Totally agree.
Richmond will have heaps of cap space, no players, and will want heaps of picks.
Normally someone of Lynch’s age and recent spate of injuries, will be a nothing pick and we can pay his wage.
This year, it’s the opposite. Someone on here described it as a reverse salary dump.
 

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A comparison to Dusty after the injury is fair. He never returned to the same level he was, and his injury occurred when he was around 28/29 as well. I don't think paying what the Demons would want is worth the risk, particularly with his contract.

Spot on!


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It’s probably an unpopular opinion, but I’m happy to trade Richards for a good draft pick.

Doesn't matter if it's unpopular - all good.

Is it because you don't rate Richards?

What pick would be acceptable? And would you take that pick to the draft or used it as part of another deal?
 
IMO expecting another 5 years of his best footy is ridiculous.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, all thought Dusty would have years as a dominant permanent forward at the end, given his one on one ability.

That didn’t exactly work out.
Yep. I’d probably back Petracca to play good footy for those 5 years as his preparation etc is more Pendles like than Dusty like, but expecting him to have Pendles or even Steele like longevity is still very optimistic.
 
Beams didn’t have mental health problems until he suddenly did. The year before we got him, he was a gun. Nobody knows what will happen with Petracca. But right now he’s bunkered down, hiding from an intense media circus, battling back from a big injury and clearly has some emotional baggage to work out of his system. I too hope he returns fully to his magnificent best but it’s far from certain and we should not be paying a trade cost as though he’s a shiny new Ferrari because he simply is not. A risk discount needs to be built into whatever price we’re willing to pay.

As an aside, if turning-29 Petracca is worth say two first rounders and $1.2m salary, what is Harley Reid worth? Or Nick Daicos? Must be 4 or 5 first rounders by the same yardstick?


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Beams had mental health issues the year before we got him. They were well known in footy circles and were often talked about on the Lions board.

From what I’ve been told, Brisbane were absolutely flabbergasted when we caved in and gave them two firsts (albeit late ones) for him.
 
Beams didn’t have mental health problems until he suddenly did. The year before we got him, he was a gun. Nobody knows what will happen with Petracca. But right now he’s bunkered down, hiding from an intense media circus, battling back from a big injury and clearly has some emotional baggage to work out of his system. I too hope he returns fully to his magnificent best but it’s far from certain and we should not be paying a trade cost as though he’s a shiny new Ferrari because he simply is not. A risk discount needs to be built into whatever price we’re willing to pay.

As an aside, if turning-29 Petracca is worth say two first rounders and $1.2m salary, what is Harley Reid worth? Or Nick Daicos? Must be 4 or 5 first rounders by the same yardstick?


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Your second paragraph is such an excellent point. It puts this into perspective.
What we are prepared to give will not equate to what the Demons want.
 

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