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Needs to as then put Pressure on PortHoping that Houston changes tack & nominates us.
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Needs to as then put Pressure on PortHoping that Houston changes tack & nominates us.
And there we go Josh Jenkins has entered the race for biggest flog of Trade Period.
Agree, but talking just of the pick 13 value. I think the main hold up is being able to satisfy both GC and PA. Seems adding in our second rounder gets us pick 13, but we may also need something for Port. Discussion will be around what goes where.I think it'll go in to the pot, but it'll be a 3 way trade. GC won't want to do Lukosius as a stand alone deal. They want him off their books. And a 3 way deal best enables them to all walk away happy.
I get feeling IF nothing done on Monday we might just pull out and say not worth our timeSounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club
Leppa Mentioned Tomlinson and HayesWhy do you ask, Pies?
I still think the club is expecting to recruit Houston. It’s that or we go to the draft, dont see us getting anyone else in the trade period right now.
Just found this question interesting.
Noble is a grown man, the needs of the club are more important than his state of mind. I am sure he will understand that we weren't able to facilitate a trade because the draft compensation is nowhere near enough.I think you’re inflating the value/importance of Noble to GC. They could quite easily sell 13 to the highest bidder and just offer us 23 for Noble, which we’d likely cave-in and accept because we really don’t want to keep Noble against his will.
IMO of the three Clubs in this triangle, we are in by far the weakest position because we have the least valuable players/picks, with no outside interest from other clubs for what we have on the table. We’re the needy ones most likely yo have to pay more than we’d like to get what we want.
It might all collapse down to us missing out on Houston and walking away with just a pick in the 20’s for Noble and one in the 30’s for Richards. But hopefully not.
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Apologies, but I needed to get it off my chestI am a fairly visual person, did not need that mental image. Edmund and ralphy beating it off to a photoshopped image of Houston in a Carlton jumper.
Is that you Ned? If we miss out on Houston, Noble has already stated he would be happy to stay if a deal can’t be reached. GC offered him a 4 year deal & he is contracted to our club. We have plenty of bargaining power.I think you’re inflating the value/importance of Noble to GC. They could quite easily sell 13 to the highest bidder and just offer us 23 for Noble, which we’d likely cave-in and accept because we really don’t want to keep Noble against his will.
IMO of the three Clubs in this triangle, we are in by far the weakest position because we have the least valuable players/picks, with no outside interest from other clubs for what we have on the table. We’re the needy ones most likely yo have to pay more than we’d like to get what we want.
It might all collapse down to us missing out on Houston and walking away with just a pick in the 20’s for Noble and one in the 30’s for Richards. But hopefully not.
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At the moment We DoDo we have a problem Houston?
Noble is happy to stay. He’s said so if a trade cannot be made.I think you’re inflating the value/importance of Noble to GC. They could quite easily sell 13 to the highest bidder and just offer us 23 for Noble, which we’d likely cave-in and accept because we really don’t want to keep Noble against his will.
IMO of the three Clubs in this triangle, we are in by far the weakest position because we have the least valuable players/picks, with no outside interest from other clubs for what we have on the table. We’re the needy ones most likely yo have to pay more than we’d like to get what we want.
It might all collapse down to us missing out on Houston and walking away with just a pick in the 20’s for Noble and one in the 30’s for Richards. But hopefully not.
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Trade Period should be a Week at MostThis is the particular stage of trade period I start to loathe.
Everything is in a holding pattern so nothing happens in terms of player movement, and journalists are wanking themselves to death with rumours and innuendo.
we enquired early about luko as a salary dump they declined. I think they’d rather his salary gone but are not desperate.That's all fair enough, but how do you factor in GC's desire to get Likocious's salary gone?
Bloody Weekend now so nothing but Rumors next few daysFinally trade period has become interesting
And there we go Josh Jenkins has entered the race for biggest flog of Trade Period.
And they've told him this could be a possibilityNoble is a grown man, the needs of the club are more important than his state of mind. I am sure he will understand that we weren't able to facilitate a trade because the draft compensation is nowhere near enough.
Yea TBH rather than getting hung up on trying to keep pick 23, I feel like at the end of the trade period, we might need to get comfortable with giving up our pick 36 and not picking until later.
Something like this might be what's needed to unlock the trade if we were the first one to blink:
Coll trades F1, Noble, Pick 36, 52, 55 for GC's Pick 13, 23, 41 - F1+36 equals the going rate for Pick 13, Noble = Pick 23 and 52 and 55 gives more points to GC than 41 whilst we get a pick upgrade.
Coll then trade Pick 13, 23, Richards for Houston and Port's Pick 39 and 58. Essentially values Houston as Pick 13 and 23 with 58 coming back (which Port probably won't use). Values Richards at Pick 39. Port will then have pick 13, 23 and Soldo's pick to take to the draft.
We walk away with Perryman, Houston and picks 39, 41 and 58 (which should come into 50 after bid matching). Ie 3 picks in the top 50 and hope the draft has the depth everyone is talking about to still find a couple of decent young players for the future. But ultimately it doesn't matter because Houston and Perryman would already be a massive success given our limited draft hand.
I think it's basically done.Agree, but talking just of the pick 13 value. I think the main hold up is being able to satisfy both GC and PA. Seems adding in our second rounder gets us pick 13, but we may also need something for Port. Discussion will be around what goes where.
The talk today has been a bit doubtful on whether the deal will be completed, but I don't think it could be that far away given what the Blues gave for pick 14 and each club wanting something from the other. Just seems like posturing before the deal is finalised next week.
If we hadn't taken a breath and instead traded our future first in 2021, then we could have gone after someone like Dunkley. Hindsight is 20/20.If we had taken a breath, and valued our picks more highly last year, we may have had Schultz and pick 10 and we wouldn’t be in this situation.
Trade pick 10 for Houston + 23
Then use 13 as a first rounder or split it
We began trade period with 36, if we pick up Houston and Perryman and still go to draft with somewhere around 36 we are bandits.I think we'll definitely get Houston.
The only worry at this stage is getting shafted to a certain extent, and not having any picks left over afterwards.
If that happens, it'll go against what we've been expecting all week. But if you consider the Perryman acquisition without draft picks, it could still be seen as a win.