List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

Pleasedontfail11 · 2024-10-30T20:25:43+1100

rand corp said:
Definitely see this coming season as the last dance for the pies, a lot going to depend on injuries and the form of the pensioners on our list. Fading stars that they are, and we do have a lot of them in the 30+ category.

If we fall short, we are going to have to go to the well, trade ourselves into the next couple of drafts and rebuild the list.

Wouldn't say "definitely", it is a strong possibility.

Pleasedontfail11 · 2024-10-30T20:35:46+1100

Matt_352 said:
Literally makes ZERO sense to not get Tomlinson, the cupboard is absolutely bare currently for KPD.

If someone picks up AJ or Markov then sure. But we need to make 3 draft selections and everyone else has a contract. I think we are going to take 2-3 tall KPP in the draft and hope that between Moore, Dean, Frampton, Howe, Maynard, McInnes and the new players, we can cover a couple tall opposition forwards.

Pleasedontfail11 · 2024-10-30T20:39:58+1100

Jen2310 said:
The moment we re-signed reef and long was the moment we washed our hands of Tomlinson. Unless we put HH on inactive list and trial him through pre-season.

I like the idea. With HH injured until late in the season the only reason why you wouldn't add Tomlinson imo would be because of cap space. Let's get it done.

Pleasedontfail11 · 2024-10-30T20:42:19+1100

sr36 said:
I think Pendles might retire. The others will go when they're pushed (unless it's a significant injury) - it'll be called retirement though.

I'm betting on Howe and Sidey to be allowed to roll on and Titch to be pushed but it'll depend on next year's form. Cox might depend on Smit and Steene.

Also if Condon comes in and performs close to AFL standard then Cox probably won't be offered a contract unless he has an outstanding season.

Jen2310 · 2024-10-30T20:43:20+1100

Pleasedontfail11 said:
I like the idea. With HH injured until late in the season the only reason why you wouldn't add Tomlinson imo would be because of cap space. Let's get it done.

That could be a reason too. Maybe cap is tight given we decided to use all the rookie list spots and less on the seniors, and are paying big dollars to houston and perryman.
But I'm not sure if or when they'll pull the trigger on HH, they may see his recovery goes and could open up a spot even preseason, or.. MSD.

We'll wait and see.

Pleasedontfail11 · 2024-10-30T20:46:19+1100

Jen2310 said:
Reefs last 3 games as a defender

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Stats look good but it is VFL so who knows.

Jen2310 · 2024-10-30T20:47:16+1100

Pleasedontfail11 said:
Stats look good but it is VFL so who knows.

For someone that hadnt trained there until late in the season, I'd say he went pretty well. As well as to be expected.
The would also give him spells in the middle as well as down back.

leon123 · 2024-10-30T20:48:17+1100

Fat Jesus said:
About to roll a spliff. Needing to get my head around all this crap.

I dont think that will help, but, you will feel better

HoraceStrasbork · 2024-10-30T21:22:22+1100

No SPIN said:
massive and vile vitriol against him on social media ultimately needing him to delete his account, had a huge impact on his confidence.

People can be cruel for no reason What did he do to deserve this treatment beside nothing at all

JuniorB · 2024-10-30T21:28:07+1100

Jen2310 said:
That could be a reason too. Maybe cap is tight given we decided to use all the rookie list spots and less on the seniors, and are paying big dollars to houston and perryman.
But I'm not sure if or when they'll pull the trigger on HH, they may see his recovery goes and could open up a spot even preseason, or.. MSD.

We'll wait and see.

It's such a shame that HH did his knee - I thought he was just about to explode.
He has strength, speed and footy smarts.
Can't wait to see him back.

Jen2310 · 2024-10-30T21:29:27+1100

JuniorB said:
It's such a shame that HH did his knee - I thought he was just about to explode.
He has strength, speed and footy smarts.
Can't wait to see him back.

Yeah, really sucks for him. I was just watching part of that swans vfl game earlier and you feared the worst at the time. Poor kid.

leon123 · 2024-10-30T21:35:11+1100

HoraceStrasbork said:
People can be cruel for no reason What did he do to deserve this treatment beside nothing at all

Its a reflection of themselves, guaranteed they themselves are under achievers

PIEWITHSAUCE · 2024-10-30T21:45:39+1100

Pie_high said:
he might make an arse out of everyone who wanted to give him the arse!

My arse he will!! (hope I'm wrong

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localfootylegend23 · 2024-10-30T21:51:57+1100

PonsfordMagpie said:
Will be gutted if we lost Markov despite the intention to re-rookie him.

I love oleg's personality and the way he goes about it. However there is a reason he is at his 3rd club, he isn't that good

With houston coming in he is just injury depth now. Assuming parker has a really solid pre season and gets the chance to nail down a spot. Need Quaynor back at his best too, and for the love of god leave frampton back, no throwing him around to fill holes. Dean needs another pre season or two under his belt, like the look of him though.

The_Anvil · 2024-10-30T21:59:21+1100

Jen2310 said:
That could be a reason too. Maybe cap is tight given we decided to use all the rookie list spots and less on the seniors, and are paying big dollars to houston and perryman.
But I'm not sure if or when they'll pull the trigger on HH, they may see his recovery goes and could open up a spot even preseason, or.. MSD.

We'll wait and see.

Do we know what we're paying Houston? Becuase he was on a contract that was favourable for Port, so have we restructured the contract with him coming over? If it's the same then he's not getting paid near what Perryman is.

celestial · 2024-10-30T21:59:40+1100

Matt_352 said:
If Moore goes down you really want both Dean and Frampton holding down both spots?

Think we are going to have to draft 2 tall defenders. We can't take Moore's availability for granted. Drafting a kpf isn't a priority as we can always swing Howe forward and also now have the added benefit of having membrey as fwd cover.

This side can function with a decimated fwd line, especially when it is our kpf's who are out with injuries, but we will struggle mightily if our kpd stocks are struck with injuries.

Horaceg · 2024-10-30T22:03:42+1100

Fat Jesus said:
About to roll a spliff. Needing to get my head around all this crap.

…….its an arse thing?

Horaceg · 2024-10-30T22:04:40+1100

Hardas said:
Poor bugger...

On theme

Jen2310 · 2024-10-30T22:04:50+1100

The_Anvil said:
Do we know what we're paying Houston? Becuase he was on a contract that was favourable for Port, so have we restructured the contract with him coming over? If it's the same then he's not getting paid near what Perryman is.

Not totally sure, but I assume its upwards of 800k, but I assume its decent, but don't think there is any word to back that up. But we're paying perryman decent coin.

JOELY · 2024-10-30T22:55:30+1100

Jen2310 said:
For someone that hadnt trained there until late in the season, I'd say he went pretty well. As well as to be expected.
The would also give him spells in the middle as well as down back.

I like some of the things he did when he spent time in the midfield. Also did some nice things down back, but my biggest memory is this great moment were he busted though a pack with great acceleration, dished it off, followed up with the handball recieve, then after his disposal stopped dead becaused the double effort left him absolutely cooked. Was pretty eye opening how far he still is off the fitness standard.

Jen2310 · 2024-10-30T22:57:31+1100

JOELY said:
I like some of the things he did when he spent time in the midfield. Also did some nice things down back, but my biggest memory is this great moment were he busted though a pack with great acceleration, dished it off, followed up with the handball recieve, then after his disposal stopped dead becaused the double effort left him absolutely cooked. Was pretty eye opening how far he still is off the fitness standard.

Hopefully this is the ore-season where he takes the next step with that fitness issue.

cfc19902010 · 2024-10-30T22:59:03+1100

manicpie said:
Basically, we're going to have to see Dean go up a level next year. It's not out of the question but it is a concern, especially if Moore gets injured at any stage

Moore is actually nearly the most important player in the team now
Unless we can find another solid tall defender we can’t afford for him to go down
Hopefully his form also rebounds from 24

JOELY · 2024-10-30T23:03:41+1100

Jen2310 said:
Hopefully this is the ore-season where he takes the next step with that fitness issue.

Really hope so. I went to some really early training sessions this year and he was doing a mountain of extra running. I fear he may run out of time, but fingers crossed.

Jen2310 · 2024-10-30T23:06:07+1100

JOELY said:
Really hope so. I went to some really early training sessions this year and he was doing a mountain of extra running. I fear he may run out of time, but fingers crossed.

Yeah, pre-season I felt he took a step forward. Hopefully his pre-season is twice the amount. It's time and he would know that.
Hopefully was doing lots of mountain hill running while in europe with his gf.

sadako1999 · 2024-10-30T23:22:18+1100

I’m hoping the following…

1. We use 2 picks for a key defender and key forward.
2. We save our third pick for the yearly SSP fatal four way where Tomlinson is chosen.
3. HH is put on ice and we can get some much needed ruck/forward cover in Hayes.

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