List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016 Part 3

[Pendles!]

And a lot of that is structural. Bucks always plays with an extra mid, allowing the opposition to play one extra defender

Does he still do that? I don't think he does anymore.

 

[TW Sherrin]

If Rockliff goes to Carlton over us I'll be gutted.

read the Brisbane statement today re the meeting between Fagan an rockliff. I'll be staggered if he isn't traded.

 

[TradeDraft]

But Collingwood appears out of the race for athletic key forward James Stewart, the son of former Magpie Craig Stewart.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/8f9158968b773a18c1b676378cacca4b

 

[RupetFan]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/8f9158968b773a18c1b676378cacca4b

If we were out of the race we wouldn't have met with him today..

 

[RupetFan]

If Rockliff goes to Carlton over us I'll be gutted.

we can only hope.

 

[TW Sherrin]

At 196cm & 95 kegs he is no flanker, quite simply a key position player. Physically he is more developed than Darcy and will only fill out.

because someone is big doesn't mean they are a kpf. he plays like a flanker.

 

[Pedro]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/8f9158968b773a18c1b676378cacca4b

Not overly upset about that if its correct.

 

[Seedsfan]

Ben Sinclair?

To fat and to slow to be Ben

 

[Chrispiesssss]

James Sicily may not be Key position size, but he definitely plays like a Modern day KPF. Agile, and loves to jump at the ball.

 

[Pendles!]

because someone is big doesn't mean they are a kpf. he plays like a flanker.

He's always played like a flanker. It's probably half the reason we never drafted him.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Not sure if already mentioned but I caught a little of KB's show today and seems the Marchbank deal is stalling with Carlton who are unwilling to part with pick 5 and GWS standing firm. KB at pains to point out that Collingwood had thrown a massive offer to Marchbank. I like how when KB mentions these sorts of things in relation to Collingwood his tone suggests we are some kind of reckless, irresponsible club throwing offers around without any thought.

Anyway. Got me thinking - does this make us more or less able to get Stewart? Are we still any chance to lure Marchbank or is he a lock to Carlton. Just idle speculation but I wouldn't mind trying to develop Stewart. I thought he showed a bit last year and I'm not comfortable with our forward stocks right now.

Edit - just spotted your post above RupetFan. Cheers, very much enjoying your insights this trade period.

KB? The oldest and famous reptile click bate pro in the history of the word famous

 

[TradeDraft]

If we were out of the race we wouldn't have met with him today..

Exactly what I thought about that

 

[PicaBoo]

If Rockliff goes to Carlton over us I'll be gutted.

Carlton loses Gibbs. Look at their midfield and look at ours. No guessing who is more desperate to get a quality mid in. And if they want to pay overs for a player, two words for them: Daisy Thomas.
I would love to get Rockliff at the right price but only once we have completed our shopping list.

 

[sr36]

He's always played like a flanker. It's probably half the reason we never drafted him.

I'd argue that modern day flankers play like midfielders, so he doesn't really play like a flanker either. To me, he doesn't really play like an AFL player. Having said that, he may develop into a handy 2nd ruck, if footy goes in the right direction for him.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

That's a bingo.
Did I say it right?

No, you just say bingo.

Bingo!

 

[davywap]

Sinclair, maynard, and ramma disagree.

Lol Maynard

 

[Saintly Viewed]

As expected the Mayne and Wells deals went through relatively easily, well compared to how many deals the other clubs have got done anyway.

I'd expect Frost, Witts and Cloke to be trade by the close of business on Friday now. Both the Suns, Dogs and Lions have had plenty of time to chat to other clubs about JOM and Rockliff, there will come a time when the Pies tell them to sit down or we will talk to other clubs about these players.

As for the talk about a few compensation picks costing us Brown and Daicos, I've honestly never heard anything as stupid. Daicos will cost us a 4th round pick at most (after the deduction). Getting put back 5-6 spots due to compo picks at that stage of the draft is almost irrelevant.

Brown as we know will cost more, but even then, as long as no one bids in the first round we will get enough of a reduction to most likely take him with a third round pick.

James Stewart was spotted at the Holden Centre today too, might have just been visiting all clubs interested in him, but we are still in the race for both he and WHE, but wouldn't expect movement on either front till next week.

As for Rockliff, I doubt it, the only way I can possibly see us getting him is if it comes down to the final day of the trade period and the Lions can't off load him. Then we might get him cheap. But I doubt it.

Terrific summation.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Honestly, Omera WAS a gun. But he isn't worth the risk. He could never play a game again.

That's why the Suns don't want to lose him and he's barely what 22 23?

 

[davywap]

Tooveys & Marley hardly played this year??????

Yeah and look how well that went. No pace in our backline once Sinclair gets another concussion.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

That's why the Suns don't want to lose him and he's barely what 22 23?

Treolar or O'Mera?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Witts will go to the Suns of course. Should have included him. Marley Williams is a strange one. His manager tried to link him to the giants but they flat out said no. We haven't even offered Marley a contract. No one wants him basically which is kind of sad, for him.



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If that is the Williams situation, I'd simply say to him, assuming he remains a magpie.
"Marley, this is your wake up moment, football career wise.
Now, it's up to you."

Then I'd say, "we have great faith in you. You go for it, we'll support you."

 

[DAWESOME!!]

KB? The oldest and famous reptile click bate pro in the history of the word famous

That's what they say on the famous talk back number when they ring in for his famous Goose and Guus of the Week segment, about his famous shit stirring, with his famous bald head on the famous radio in my famous car...

Along with Dr Turf, who'll be quirky and very, very antagonistic.

 

[davywap]

How's he supposed to sound? He isn't exactky going to get on there and sulk. Heater never complained either, but it hurt him deeply.

Shaw was a completely different situation, the comparison is ridiculous.

 

[THATSGOLD]

We could get O'meara for that if we were willing to chase him and GC were happy to accept. I wouldn't think that o'meara would have any problem playing for the Pies

Hawks are getting Tom Mitchell and O'Meara and here we are losing Dane Swan from 2016.

 

[DAWESOME!!]

Hawks are getting Tom Mitchell and O'Meara and here we are losing Dane Swan from 2016.

They're also losing Sam Mitchell.