List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[eaglevision]

even if we pick up another ruckman, its mostly BF wishful thinking that Bwill would be on the trade block or even wanted by another club.

Collingwood asked about him earlier in the season, there’s probably a handful of clubs that would be interested I think it’s more to do with what his value is. briztoon thinks he’s late 1st, some say a token pick but most here seem to think around pick 40 is about right. Best result would probably be a player trade.

I do agree with your second point that it’s unlikely we’d push him out, but stranger things have happened.

 

[KERRPOW]

On reflection Petrucelles season was pretty average. It went under the radar a bit i reckon.

Particularly after his "strong" finish to last year finding his niche as an onballer, which low and behold ended up being a flash in the pan purple patch with no substance.

Much like his entire career unfortunately.

2024 summary from his 16 games (AVG)
10.7 disposals
2.1 tackles
3 clangers
& Booted 11 goals.

The kind of player we really needed to step up as he's in that prime age bracket were trying to acquire more of.

We've invested the past 7+ years into him and counting, but he still can't lock down a spot. He's one of those players who aren't AFL quality but stick around for longer than they should due to more pressing issues with the list elsewhere.

He's 26 next year and better have an impressive season, or he'll be part of the next cull.

Prepare the culling knifes.

The blokes pretty limited.

 

[briztoon]

Wash handsCollingwood asked about him earlier in the season, there’s probably a handful of clubs that would be interested I think it’s more to do with what his value is. briztoon thinks he’s late 1st, some say a token pick but most here seem to think around pick 40 is about right. Best result would probably be a player trade.

I do agree with your second point that it’s unlikely we’d push him out, but stranger things have happened.

Don’t drag me back in to this shemozzle.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

With the caveat that our coaching, S&C and medical were subpar, I think the biggest mistake post-2018 was thinking that midfield was going to cut it.

2018 from a midfield perspective was a flash in the pan. Shuey, Yeo, Redden, Gaff and Sheed (Naitanui), had never demonstrated consistent midfield dominance bar those few weeks in September. All either inconsistent, perennially injured or not elite. Ironically, given his demise, Gaff was arguably the only bankable member.

That team was held up by the forwards and the backline. In many ways Melbourne, with its weak forward line and similar trajectory is the bizarro version of us.

This lead to overpaying for Kelly and playing him in the wrong position and a belief that if we just get the Best 22 on the park it would work itself out.

It's imperative that we don't make the same mistakes this time. We need rolled gold, A grade midfielders before anything else.

We've had a sub par midfield for a decade +, it's been papered over whenever we had a fit Nic Nat. It just showed his complete and utter dominance. Thinking upon it, i think he's probably my favourite all time eagles player because of that. And the fact i'm a failed, broken down ruck.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Not the point of the post and don’t think we need to preface every trade scenario post with “provided we have cover for player A”. Knobel, Reidy, Soldo and Eastland are all players who we’d be looking at.

You mentioned trading BWilliams being traded, not me. Why put it in your post then? Is no one allowed to comment on it?

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

I’m a bigger fan of Chess than most on here but even I can admit his footy IQ is rubbish. His athletic profile is most suited to the wing but he doesn’t know which contest to commit to or where to position himself forward of the ball. The best he’s looked is with ball in hand running through the corridor from D50. I’d have him and Ginbey on the same summer program with a view to playing mainly HBF with some chop outs at the coal face.

Hopefully after spending more time with the ball coming to them, both might improve their reading of the play to the point they can play further up the ground.

We missed Freijah last year so Lindsay from the draft and O’Driscoll via cheap trade should both be on our radar for that wing role this year. Jack Ough at 194cm might also we worth considering with a late 2R/early 3 picks that we may acquire for Darling or BWilliams.

I like Hugh Boxshall from Claremont, elite runner, tough and good skills. Been producing very solid numbers in the WAFL and was very good at the champs!

Reckon we could get him past 40 in the draft too. He's potentially this years Freijah.

 

[Obeanie1]

even if we pick up another ruckman, its mostly BF wishful thinking that Bwill would be on the trade block or even wanted by another club.

I'd put money on other clubs being interested in Bailey Williams.

Without a doubt.

 

[eaglevision]

I like Hugh Boxshall from Claremont, elite runner, tough and good skills. Been producing very solid numbers in the WAFL and was very good at the champs!

Reckon we could get him past 40 in the draft too. He's potentially this years Freijah.

Agreed. There’s some very good WA options likely to be there after pick 40 or even slip through to the rookie draft and Boxshall is one of them. I also like Dennis and Artemis so I’d love to get some picks in that range. Offer Bailey up with Darling and some salary and see if we can get all three of Norf’s later picks.

*provided we have a suitable ruck depth replacement.

 

[mat11]

Agreed. There’s some very good WA options likely to be there after pick 40 or even slip through to the rookie draft and Boxshall is one of them. I also like Dennis and Artemis so I’d love to get some picks in that range. Offer Bailey up with Darling and some salary and see if we can get all three of Norf’s later picks.

*provided we have a suitable ruck depth replacement.

You hate bailey more than old mate jez hates chesser

 

[THE A5]

If clubs are interested in Rotham then Billiams would have many clubs on their radar

 

[Goroyals22]

I'd put money on other clubs being interested in Bailey Williams.

Without a doubt.

As a what ? An uncompetitive ruckman who can’t play forward… yep they would be lined up out the door.


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[Get_The_Gaff]

Also just need players who don’t pick and choose when to play at their best. When they all do, we’re finals quality. Unfortunately that happens too infrequently

We didn't beat 1 top 8 team this season . Hard to say we are finals quality when that is the case

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

First year following AFL?

The AFL said they wouldn't implement the new bidding rules because teams had planned 12 months ago even though it was in the works last off season

As amateurish as the AFL is they wouldn't make that mistake again .

 

[twce13]

If clubs are interested in Rotham then Billiams would have many clubs on their radar

i mean its essendon with the ex-eagles brain trust who recruited rotham in the first place.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Broadly speaking I think Hamish is likely to be picked higher but I’d much prefer use pick 40 on Ough than 23 on Davis. I think he’s be a good fit for us and in future could go through midfield more prominently.

Whilst not a winger Zak Johnston would be another who should be under consideration for us if we got a hold of a pick around 40.

Speaking of Johnston, Harvey had a good year and I can see him playing as a winger.

 

[Elite Pete]

Bailey Williams would be snapped up in heart beat by clubs.

What a stupid discussion

 

[eaglevision]

You hate bailey more than old mate jez hates chesser

I don’t hate Bailey at all, he’s tried his guts out playing a different position to the one he spent most of the preseason training for and has stayed fit. I admire him hugely but as I’ve been saying since the preseason I just don’t see a role for him in the team going forward. We’re stacked for KPFs, two of which have good ruck craft and Bailey is never going to be a #1 ruck.

If he did move on I’d wish him every success and whilst I don’t think there’s a squad spot for him with us I’d never question his commitment to the team and hope that wherever he lands he develops into a best 22 player with a defined role.

Big difference between saying a player is a spud and saying there’s no role for him. Grundy is not a spud but there wasn’t a role for him.

 

[Obeanie1]

As a what ? An uncompetitive ruckman who can’t play forward… yep they would be lined up out the door.


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He is competitive as a ruck for periods in games. Just not the full time ruck.

And he has improvement left in him as alot of rucks peak as they get close to 30.

One of the toughest positions to play. And very, very few can play it.

But criticising or downplaying the worth of developing rucks isn't hard. Because it takes time for them to peak.

Looks like you've written him off so be it. Time will tell if other clubs agree with you.l or not.

 

[FKASC]

We didn't beat 1 top 8 team this season . Hard to say we are finals quality when that is the case

That’s because the players choose not to compete. What I meant was a midfield of Yeo, Reid, Kelly is finals quality but getting the three of them to perform at the same time is a rarity compared to those midfields in the top 8

 

[JackOutback]

The AFL said they wouldn't implement the new bidding rules because teams had planned 12 months ago even though it was in the works last off season

As amateurish as the AFL is they wouldn't make that mistake again .

True, but we did beat both Fremantle and Melbourne when they were up and about, they just fell away later.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Given the fact that our rucks are probably our weakest link, I’d say there is zero to **** all chance of us trading out BWilliams.

Bit of an oxymoron post this one.

Our weakest link is Williams, so DON'T trade him? Okeydoke.

Fact is, it was pretty obvious he was totally lost as a forward when Flynn played. Any idiot could see that was going to happen.

When he rucks solo he plays his best footy but still battles out of his weight and makes spud oppo rucks look like prime Dean Cox. We can't allow it to continue.

Flynn has been incredibly disappointing, but Williams really has no long term future in this side IMO. Unless the club buries it's head in the sand and carries on conceding the ruck taps.

Then there's Barnetts development, gee whiz. Our rucks really are the worst part of our list right now, and that's saying something given it's been our pedestrian midfield for a long time.

To another club Williams has quite a good highlights package, he's an athletic specimen and gets his hands dirty. For a club with a better midfield, he could work, or a club backing themselves to get more out of him as a forward than we have.

He's most definitely worth something IMO.

 

[Keys]

The AFL said they wouldn't implement the new bidding rules because teams had planned 12 months ago even though it was in the works last off season

As amateurish as the AFL is they wouldn't make that mistake again .

You’d hope not

The AFL flagged the changes to the points system at least 2 months ago and that was after an extensive overall review

We are now less than a month away from trade week commencing and the points/bidding system still is yet to be announced.

The AFL have form in being tardy with this sort of thing - the salary cap for 2023 for example wasn’t set until late 2023, after the season had finished. Players got backdated pay rises as a result

So whilst I expect the new system to be released in the next 3 weeks, I’ll not be surprised in the slightest if it isn’t

 

[Obeanie1]

Bit of an oxymoron post this one.

Our weakest link is Williams, so DON'T trade him? Okeydoke.

Fact is, it was pretty obvious he was totally lost as a forward when Flynn played. Any idiot could see that was going to happen.

When he rucks solo he plays his best footy but still battles out of his weight and makes spud oppo rucks look like prime Dean Cox. We can't allow it to continue.

Flynn has been incredibly disappointing, but Williams really has no long term future in this side IMO. Unless the club buries it's head in the sand and carries on conceding the ruck taps.

Then there's Barnetts development, gee whiz. Our rucks really are the worst part of our list right now, and that's saying something given it's been our pedestrian midfield for a long time.

To another club Williams has quite a good highlights package, he's an athletic specimen and gets his hands dirty. For a club with a better midfield, he could work, or a club backing themselves to get more out of him as a forward than we have.

He's most definitely worth something IMO.

Williams does win centre bounce taps. And around the ground early in games before he runs out of petrol later in games and taller rucks start to dominate. They don't get shorter when smaller rucks like Bailey get tired.

So Bailey does win taps. Watch the first quarter v Xeri.

His issue is winning more tap to advantage. Improving the hurt factor when he does win a tap.

 

[Elite Pete]

Sounded like the frame work is already done on the points. I think it was even mentioned on the special Gettable episode that 3000 pts taken out of the system and the last picks points going from 220 to 70 from memory.

Teams would probably have it but might not put it out to the public due to getting everyone confused in this period

 

[mat11]

I don’t hate Bailey at all, he’s tried his guts out playing a different position to the one he spent most of the preseason training for and has stayed fit. I admire him hugely but as I’ve been saying since the preseason I just don’t see a role for him in the team going forward. We’re stacked for KPFs, two of which have good ruck craft and Bailey is never going to be a #1 ruck.

If he did move on I’d wish him every success and whilst I don’t think there’s a squad spot for him with us I’d never question his commitment to the team and hope that wherever he lands he develops into a best 22 player with a defined role.

Big difference between saying a player is a spud and saying there’s no role for him. Grundy is not a spud but there wasn’t a role for him.

All good mate was just taking the piss, I like the majority of your opinions