List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Tim Kelly vibes.

It's actually the ghost of the Tim Kelly Trade. Trade multiple picks in a draft with lots of WA talent to get a guy we could have from the draft we traded out of to get Kelly.

Fast forward 7 years and we'll be trading for a Rodriguez or Curtin.



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[briztoon]

I feel banfield is very similar to Hamish Davis who was a 4th rounder .

Teams just don't really bother with early bids on father son players unless they are elite .

Camperialli twins and welsh didn't go high.

Hell jake waterman didn't even get bid on

Neither did Welsh. And Adelaide actually trade up, trading out a future 4th round pick, just to draft their own FS.

Must have wanted to pack up 10 minutes early and head for the post draft dinner.

 

[WCE_phil]

Duursma has a quality that Curtin and Lindsay will never have. He's potentially Harleys brother in law and could help keep
Harley at the Eagles, that alone adds to Willem's value at the club more so than the other players mentioned.
Build on the family connection. If we don't Carlton, Essendon and Norf definitely will.

Yeah and if they break up and it's Harley's fault you potentially lose one or both. The safer bet is getting Yasmin to play the Eagles AFLW team.

 

[WCE_phil]

Anyone using the dangerfield trade in any scenario is a straight ****ing moron.

He was a free agent and Geelong's offer was less per year than the Crows, the crows were always going to match and the BODE could only trade what they had. All the cards were stacked against the Crows in regards to getting fair value. It was take what Geelong were willing to offer which was better than a compo pick or let him go to the draft.

Warner if he keeps it up is essentially a 25 disposal, 1.5 goal and 1 assist a game player.

People also need to understand trading a future first comes with significant discount in value of the future pick. A lowly rated side who finishes 16th, their future first is still lucky to be worth pick 10.

Cerra was a decent but not great player and never projected to have a huge ceiling even though he had good performances at the dockers.

Rankine is much more pure up forward than as a Forward Mid and was traded for pick 5.

If you get both Warners for the Hawks first and WCE future first it's a bargain. Or it's say pick 3 this year and potentially a couple of second rounders.

Corey is also a very committed, hard working decent young player. He's worth a late second on his own and maybe more depending on his performances this year. He's also had a couple of years of development and is right on the edge of the Swans hugely stacked midfield group for their best 22.

I'd pay the Hawks first if it's pick 8/9 and WCE future first without batting an eyelid. Take a real, genuine inside bull like Sharp with the clubs first, add the Warner brothers and all we are looking for are developing young key defenders, a ruck and a touch more class by foot from the back half.

 

[eaglevision]

I'd pay the Hawks first if it's pick 8/9 and WCE future first without batting an eyelid. Take a real, genuine inside bull like Sharp with the clubs first, add the Warner brothers and all we are looking for are developing young key defenders, a ruck and a touch more class by foot from the back half.

With your valuing of future picks that’s 8/9 plus 10 for Warner Bros but mentioned earlier you felt Warner is top 5 plus top 10 pick. If he posts another 23 Brownlow vote season I’d lean to agreeing with that statement which is why I think R1 (3) + F1 (10) for R1 (17) + Warner Bros is most likely. Use Hawks 1R on Curtin, Swans 1R on Lindsay and that’s already addressed two of the three list holes you mentioned then add our NGA/ F/S kids. Although it would be very hard to give up a pick that would get Sharp or Rodriguez. I can see improvement in all the bottom teams bar Richmond so a 8 win season could still equate to pick 2 or 3.

 

[WCE777]

Anyone using the dangerfield trade in any scenario is a straight ****ing moron.

He was a free agent and Geelong's offer was less per year than the Crows, the crows were always going to match and the BODE could only trade what they had. All the cards were stacked against the Crows in regards to getting fair value. It was take what Geelong were willing to offer which was better than a compo pick or let him go to the draft.

Warner if he keeps it up is essentially a 25 disposal, 1.5 goal and 1 assist a game player.

People also need to understand trading a future first comes with significant discount in value of the future pick. A lowly rated side who finishes 16th, their future first is still lucky to be worth pick 10.

Cerra was a decent but not great player and never projected to have a huge ceiling even though he had good performances at the dockers.

Rankine is much more pure up forward than as a Forward Mid and was traded for pick 5.

If you get both Warners for the Hawks first and WCE future first it's a bargain. Or it's say pick 3 this year and potentially a couple of second rounders.

Corey is also a very committed, hard working decent young player. He's worth a late second on his own and maybe more depending on his performances this year. He's also had a couple of years of development and is right on the edge of the Swans hugely stacked midfield group for their best 22.

I'd pay the Hawks first if it's pick 8/9 and WCE future first without batting an eyelid. Take a real, genuine inside bull like Sharp with the clubs first, add the Warner brothers and all we are looking for are developing young key defenders, a ruck and a touch more class by foot from the back half.

Thanks again for your insight.
That's where I had the Warner deal at, 2 mid first round picks around 10, the discount is going to be the sticking point I guess.
First time someone has given some value to Cory in the trade and where they see him, 100% see him as a quality player with some decent upside.
So its Hawks 1st, WC F1st and a F3rd or Hawks 3rd, done deal x 2 Warners.
Be great to get Sharp but if he continues to play like he is it would be hard to see him getting past Richmond with their pick and NM's?
Would you trade back in to get Curtin this year?

 

[WCE777]

With your valuing of future picks that’s 8/9 plus 10 for Warner Bros but mentioned earlier you felt Warner is top 5 plus top 10 pick. If he posts another 23 Brownlow vote season I’d lean to agreeing with that statement which is why I think R1 (3) + F1 (10) for R1 (17) + Warner Bros is most likely. Use Hawks 1R on Curtin, Swans 1R on Lindsay and that’s already addressed two of the three list holes you mentioned then add our NGA/ F/S kids. Although it would be very hard to give up a pick that would get Sharp or Rodriguez. I can see improvement in all the bottom teams bar Richmond so a 8 win season could still equate to pick 2 or 3.

Looks a decent way to get the deal and players done, I like it Curtin, Lindsay and the FS/NGA players(2-3) draft done.
The biggest thing against this is we are giving up 2025 1st and 2026 1st where the high quality mids will be this year and next, decisions will need to be made whether the high quality mid is more important than Lindsay off HB?

 

[eaglevision]

Looks a decent way to get the deal and players done, I like it Curtin, Lindsay and the FS/NGA players(2-3) draft done.
The biggest thing against this is we are giving up 2025 1st and 2026 1st where the high quality mids will be this year and next, decisions will need to be made whether the high quality mid is more important than Lindsay off HB?

Chad Warner is the high quality mid, that’s what I think the price we would be paying is. With a replicated season he’s in the top 15 players in the competition and is the perfect age for our list.

No worries if he wants to sign with the Swans to free agency, take Fred or Sharp and get him free of draft cost in two years with an unmatchable offer. It does come with risk though and we need to start winning.

 

[WCE777]

Chad Warner is the high quality mid, that’s what I think the price we would be paying is. With a replicated season he’s in the top 15 players in the competition and is the perfect age for our list.

No worries if he wants to sign with the Swans to free agency, take Fred or Sharp and get him free of draft cost in two years with an unmatchable offer. It does come with risk though and we need to start winning.

I like the way you put that together and the targets.
The biggest thing I see is our drafting of the best mid available goes out the window for 2 years and Tassie will be compromising the draft in 2027 and beyond, the other part is at this stage Sydney have 3 academy players in and around the top 15-30, so whether they would be looking to keep that pick 17 or trade it down for later picks to match bids for their players.
By my calculation if 3 academy players go 15, 25, 30 the will end up about 900 points short so WC might be able to trade their 2nd and Hawks 3rd round picks for some futures back.
Sydney aren't dropping out of the top 5 in the next couple of years so their 2026 1st and maybe a 3rd might work.
Going to be a big year of trading with Sydney!

 

[Shueygod]

In what world is Corey Warner worth a late second, is the most overrated player on this board right now.

 

[MaxHunt]

Anyone using the dangerfield trade in any scenario is a straight ****ing moron.

He was a free agent and Geelong's offer was less per year than the Crows, the crows were always going to match and the BODE could only trade what they had. All the cards were stacked against the Crows in regards to getting fair value. It was take what Geelong were willing to offer which was better than a compo pick or let him go to the draft.

Warner if he keeps it up is essentially a 25 disposal, 1.5 goal and 1 assist a game player.

People also need to understand trading a future first comes with significant discount in value of the future pick. A lowly rated side who finishes 16th, their future first is still lucky to be worth pick 10.

Cerra was a decent but not great player and never projected to have a huge ceiling even though he had good performances at the dockers.

Rankine is much more pure up forward than as a Forward Mid and was traded for pick 5.

If you get both Warners for the Hawks first and WCE future first it's a bargain. Or it's say pick 3 this year and potentially a couple of second rounders.

Corey is also a very committed, hard working decent young player. He's worth a late second on his own and maybe more depending on his performances this year. He's also had a couple of years of development and is right on the edge of the Swans hugely stacked midfield group for their best 22.

I'd pay the Hawks first if it's pick 8/9 and WCE future first without batting an eyelid. Take a real, genuine inside bull like Sharp with the clubs first, add the Warner brothers and all we are looking for are developing young key defenders, a ruck and a touch more class by foot from the back half.

Eagles 1st and Hawk's 2025 2nd should be the offer if futures won't be accepted considering the below;

3 = 12 and 14 in 2024
2 = 8 and 12 in 2022