List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[ghostbat12]

Unlike Masten when Jagga has uncontested possession he is slippery and agile to evade people. Give Jagga uncontested ball and space and he can weave magic

Yes, but will he tear up the track on 1st day of preseason?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Yes, but will he tear up the track on 1st day of preseason?

****s sake. We are in the midst of a housing crisis in part because Masto trained so many houses down, we don’t need another now who will only make things worse!

 

[Goomba1973]

Just came across on twitter but can’t find the article but apparently the Age has linked us and North as early enquires for Lewis Young.

Lewis Young would be a decent get for some depth. Won't cost much.

 

[Goomba1973]

With darling gone they could look at gerryn at 23 and send Archer to chb under gov. Pretty sure will scho was impressed by dennis so that'd mean westcoast are into him.

3 fos/draper
13 Lindsay
23 gerryn
40(darling) dennis
59 champion

I's put Lalor as an option at 3 as well. If he slips to 13 we would be mad not to take him.

 

[Jupes]

odds we see a tall bolt up the order a bit? seems to happen most years. would norf go in on armstrong @2 or split? could see the crows or the dees pulling the trigger also.

 

[1986]

Now that some of the dust has settled I wouldn’t mind seeing the following outcome.

Wouldn't mind adding a random trade or two to bring in an extra 2nd/3rd round picks.
Would also consider dealing with Freo if they wanted to move up, 13&40 for 17&27.(might get us Lindsay and Oliver?)

In:
6, 12, 13, 40, HF1, Warner, Baker, Peatling. (Graham FA)

Out:
3, 12, 23, WF2, WF3, HF1, Barrass Darling.

Draft:
6 - Lalor, Langford, Reid, Draper, FOS, Smith, Smillie.
13 - Tauru, TT, Trainor, Lindsay.
40 - Best available.
56 - Champion.

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[WCE_Phill]

If we get a F1 for Barrass

I wonder if we trade ours for Richmond (6 and 9) if they ended up with those

Would give us 3, 6, 9, 13 and 23

 

[mat11]

If we get a F1 for Barrass

I wonder if we trade ours for Richmond (6 and 9) if they ended up with those

Would give us 3, 6, 9, 13 and 23

Would WCE F1 + Hawks f1 from barass be enough to bring in Warner?

 

[flamingEMBERS]

2030 is guaranteed regardless working on the 12 years between flags thing we’ve started with 94, 06, 18

Personally, I preferred the 2 year gap between 92 & 94

 

[ghostbat12]

Would WCE F1 + Hawks f1 from barass be enough to bring in Warner?

No.

2x top 5 picks is not unreasonable request with Sydney’s first coming back and us throwing in a future 2nd.

 

[Elite Pete]

Would WCE F1 + Hawks f1 from barass be enough to bring in Warner?

I think it would be pretty close but if it was to be this year they would want pick 3

 

[FKASC]

Jagga Notte

Thicc Jagga

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Depth in that second round looks pretty juicy to me. I'm only trading that currency this year as part of a package for an elite player.

Additionally, I'm trading out F2 & F3 picks to get another pick in the 2R this year, knowing the current view on the value of future picks is low. If we take more young kids this year and find ourselves underperforming again next year without draft currency then the position for AFL draft assistance surely becomes a certainty - Free Hit.

 

[Elite Pete]

Depth in that second round looks pretty juicy to me. I'm only trading that currency this year as part of a package for an elite player.

Additionally, I'm trading out F2 & F3 picks to get another pick in the 2R this year, knowing the current view on the value of future picks is low. If we take more young kids this year and find ourselves underperforming again next year without draft currency then the position for AFL draft assistance surely becomes a certainty - Free Hit.

Trade those future picks out and you might struggle to bid match and get discount on our NGAs and FS next year

 

[Peptide Pig]

M Reid @ 16 lost me completely. What the hell is he watching. Just shifting the magnets around so it looks different to Cal.

Yep some questionable rankings there. Seems way off the mark compared to Cal. I had to check the publish date when I saw Langford at 9

 

[maxrm]

Going more off Twomey's phantom, something like this appears to be where things are at:

#1 RICH - Smith
#2 BRIS - Match bid for Ashcroft
#3 NM - Langford
#4 WCE - Draper
#5 ADE - FOS
#6 MELB - M. Reid
#7 GC - Smillie
#8 STK - Lalor
#9 ESS - Tauru
#10 FREO - Allan
#11 COLL - Armstrong
#12 CARL - Travaglia
#13 WB - Trainor
#14 GC - Match bid on Lombard
#15 WC - Berry? Hotton? Lindsay? Hynes? Dodson?

Personally really hoping someone like Travaglia gets through but thanks to stupid Hawthorn and their stupid run their pick is likely to see us selecting from the next bracket of players. Honestly don't know who to take in that range! Berry would make sense but we will be adding Champion later in the draft, too. Lindsay a safe bet. Hynes for x-factor... If this is how it pans out, it will be very intriguing to see who we go with.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Vic Metro flight risks I have are:

Murphy Reid - very much a mummies boy
Taj Hotton - was suspect and now in rehab makes me want to avoid him
Luke Trainor - he has been dropping hints in media sessions about Norf and Doug Wade's grandson and -----

Good to see such rich Vic Country prospects to choose from

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Trade those future picks out and you might struggle to bid match and get discount on our NGAs and FS next year

Fair point which I had neglected to consider.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

is alright but I think if we’re hunting for some ready made key defensive depth we should ask the Suns about Caleb Graham

46

Caleb Graham

Age

24

Ht

194cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

5.5

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.0

3star

MG

63.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

63.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.5

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.0

3star

MG

63.0

1star

.

Played 27 games over 2021 and 2022, signed a four year deal and then hasn’t gotten a game since, stuck behind Collins and Ballard.

Still contracted through to 2026, Gold Coast are short on list spots and looking to bring in Rioli, potentially Martin and who knows who else. They might be tempted to just get him off the books.

 

[Monocle]

Vic Metro flight risks I have are:

Murphy Reid - very much a mummies boy
Taj Hotton - was suspect and now in rehab makes me want to avoid him
Luke Trainor - he has been dropping hints in media sessions about Norf and Doug Wade's grandson and -----

Good to see such rich Vic Country prospects to choose from

Now is this just the cynic in me?

But aren’t they all from the - Sandringham Dragons, Private School, Bayside suburbs cohort……. FMD - entitled or what?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Cal is not the best talent spotter but he is the best networker so I take his rankings seriously as he has recruitment and list managers giving input

I suggest posters stop worrying about F/S and Academy prospects as they will continue to be met in 2024 with later points. Here is Cal's ranking minus those not available in the open pool

I do not want to slide back from 3 UNLESS it is with a 6 and 9. Would Richmond do it? If they get a big enough haul of R1 they may want to jump early on pairing of their gun mids. A pairing of say Smith and Langford or Smith and Reid may be desirable. I suggest with Cal ranking Langford at 2 (1 after Levi) is that the Tigers are interested. He always likes to validate himself on his rankings.

For those against the slide, questions is would you prefer

Stay - FOS or Draper or Lalor
Slide - Smillie or Draper PLUS Tauru or Travaglia

If it was to fall out that way, I am taking the slide. Add to that a Berry or Lindsay at the Hawks bid and Oliver or Gross at our R2

We could walk away with Draper, Travaglia, Lindsay and Gross all inside 25. 2 balanced mids plus a small forward who can run through the midfield and an attacking half back who can also play an outside leading mid/wing role.

I am thinking we have enough developing talls to wait for one later or try to sell off the Hawks sweetener (whatever it may be) to get a KPDer this year. There are plenty later in the draft.

 

[Cuzz09]

I think Adelaide will take Draper or are they trading their pick 4 for lukosciis or NB?

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[Eastcoasteagle]

He was ranked at 9 in July and then 7 in August. Seems to be a pretty consistent range for him. Posters here are very keen on him but haven’t seen him ranked top 5 anywhere else

AFL Draft: New No. 1 as finals bolters shake up order

There's a new No. 1 in town as a certified young star reclaims his mantle as the top draft prospect, while there are several new faces who have emerged in ESPN's draft board for September.

www.espn.com.au

 

[RanaNaved]

I just don't see Draper going top 4. I reckon WC will get one of Lalor, Langford and FOS if we hold. If we trade 3 for 6 and Baker then I'd tip we take Draper if the other three are gone

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

M Reid @ 16 lost me completely. What the hell is he watching. Just shifting the magnets around so it looks different to Cal.

Hahaha, I did the same. I got to about 5 and then started scrolling quickly to try find him, then laughed.