List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[twce13]

Richmond upgraded Jack Graham offer to 4 years as well. (Gettable) which would probably indicated the $$ aren’t great and the comp wouldn’t be great so that’s why they have upped their offer

Bolton not ruled out for the Eagles but unlikely.

Peatling mentioned.

Harvey Langford mentioned as in the pick 1 talk

also the offer they make impacts compo, so who knows.

based on what adrian caruso was saying, its hard to see why clubs below us would pay a premium to trade up.
to paraphrase his words, he was pretty comfortable to let the draft fall to them as he sees the next rung (players 8 to 15) as not far behind the top tier.

need to find a suitable club desperate for someone at pick 3.

 

[Bacchus]

Langford's to slow. Hoping for FOS, would be happy with Draper as well. Think it would be a great draft to split our first to try and get Lalor/TT and Lindsay/Allan. Maybe there's a deal to be done with Freo, Richmond or St Kilda if they land Band 1 from Battle.

Band 1 for Battle is outrageous, just like it was for McKay last year.

AFL draft is a very flawed system.

 

[robbo 39]

Watch u18 WA v SA again on weekend. Bo Allen out played Draper. If we can trade back to 6 and take Bo Allen, would that be OK? By the way, i have never seen another game Bo has played.

 

[Obeanie1]

also the offer they make impacts compo, so who knows.

based on what adrian caruso was saying, its hard to see why clubs below us would pay a premium to trade up.
to paraphrase his words, he was pretty comfortable to let the draft fall to them as he sees the next rung (players 8 to 15) as not far behind the top tier.

need to find a suitable club desperate for someone at pick 3.

Who is Caruso.

 

[Obeanie1]

Band 1 for Battle is outrageous, just like it was for McKay last year.

AFL draft is a very flawed system.

AFL House is a flawed administration.

 

[WCEConnor23]

Watch u18 WA v SA again on weekend. Bo Allen out played Draper. If we can trade back to 6 and take Bo Allen, would that be OK? By the way, i have never seen another game Bo has played.

He's flying under the radar a bit and is projecting to be a very good player. 6 is a bit high for him, he's projected to go in the 10-20 range.

 

[Monocle]

Has a bit of the Marc Lecras' about him. If Lecras didn't do his knee he was midfield destined. Berry is my second favourite player in the pool. My favourite player and who I rate at 1 doesn't want to leave Victoria.

Phil - would you be prepared to force the issue with him and draft him anyway ?
( I am assuming it’s the better of the two Sandy boy- Murphy Reid - that you are talking about that don’t want to leave )

Berry I agree is a good prospect and if he fell to us as an option, with the presumed Barrass trade/pick that would be a very worthwhile pick.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I know he's a potato and potentially delisted shortly, but we're silly not grabbing DGB via whatever bargain bin avenue pans out and backing ourselves to make something of his career. Either Barrass trade or DFA.

Our KPP development has been solid for a number of years, it's a free swing picking him up and seeing what a new environment does for his game. He's a pick 6 after all.

Particularly for a list position we're now no longer flush with. Bazzo (jury still out) as depth behind Hedwards and Gov, and that's it.

 

[random260]

Watch u18 WA v SA again on weekend. Bo Allen out played Draper. If we can trade back to 6 and take Bo Allen, would that be OK? By the way, i have never seen another game Bo has played.

I'm going to ****ing rage so hard if we take bo allen let alone at that pick.

He's everything wrong about wce. Everything wrong.

As a mid at the same time. Clay hall was leaps and bounds ahead

 

[bzparkes]

Who is Caruso.

GWS list manager

 

[bzparkes]

Band 1 for Battle is outrageous, just like it was for McKay last year.

AFL draft is a very flawed system.

Already reported he's going to hawks for unders(band 2), so where's this band 1 talk coming from?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Already reported he's going to hawks for unders(band 2), so where's this band 1 talk coming from?

All the journos have said Hawks previous offer wasn’t enough for Band 1, then St Kilda upped their offer to meet Band 1, then he went to the Hawks.

So they’re not clear on whether he accepted the previous offer, or if the Hawks lifted their’s in response to the Saints and therefore will net St Kilda Band 1 compo. Lots of “wait to see” from Jon Ralph etc.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Here's The Herald Suns 'Ultimate Draft Guide'

https://archive.md/OtNgc

 

[eaglevision]

Who is Caruso.

GWS national recruiting manager. All class, very level headed and I believe he was our initial preference for the list manager role. The way GWS has been able to manage the constant outflow of high end talent and turn them into future assets had been outstanding. Thought turning down our F1 was crazy but other than opposing that trade he’s been fantastic.

 

[bzparkes]

All the journos have said Hawks previous offer wasn’t enough for Band 1, then St Kilda upped their offer to meet Band 1, then he went to the Hawks.

So they’re not clear on whether he accepted the previous offer, or if the Hawks lifted there’s in response to the Saints and therefore will net St Kilda Band 1 compo. Lots of “wait to see” from Jon Ralph etc.

There were mentions last week over on the D&T board that he still took the hawks offer, even though the Saints offer was higher.

 

[pantskyle]

All the journos have said Hawks previous offer wasn’t enough for Band 1, then St Kilda upped their offer to meet Band 1, then he went to the Hawks.

So they’re not clear on whether he accepted the previous offer, or if the Hawks lifted there’s in response to the Saints and therefore will net St Kilda Band 1 compo. Lots of “wait to see” from Jon Ralph etc.

The understanding is Hawks didn't up any offer, Battle had already agreed to join them.

 

[eaglevision]

I know he's a potato and potentially delisted shortly, but we're silly not grabbing DGB via whatever bargain bin avenue pans out and backing ourselves to make something of his career. Either Barrass trade or DFA.

Our KPP development has been solid for a number of years, it's a free swing picking him up and seeing what a new environment does for his game. He's a pick 6 after all.

Particularly for a list position we're now no longer flush with. Bazzo (jury still out) as depth behind Hedwards and Gov, and that's it.

Train with us over summer with the SSP carrot. I think that would be best for club and particularly player. Close up look at him and see how much he wants it when his attitude and fitness has been questioned.

We absolutely need to address the KPD issue this draft and trade period.

 

[Bacchus]

I know he's a potato and potentially delisted shortly, but we're silly not grabbing DGB via whatever bargain bin avenue pans out and backing ourselves to make something of his career. Either Barrass trade or DFA.

Our KPP development has been solid for a number of years, it's a free swing picking him up and seeing what a new environment does for his game. He's a pick 6 after all.

Particularly for a list position we're now no longer flush with. Bazzo (jury still out) as depth behind Hedwards and Gov, and that's it.

Competing with Jacob Blight for a list position?

Of the two I think I would prefer Blight.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I know he's a potato and potentially delisted shortly, but we're silly not grabbing DGB via whatever bargain bin avenue pans out and backing ourselves to make something of his career. Either Barrass trade or DFA.

Our KPP development has been solid for a number of years, it's a free swing picking him up and seeing what a new environment does for his game. He's a pick 6 after all.

Particularly for a list position we're now no longer flush with. Bazzo (jury still out) as depth behind Hedwards and Gov, and that's it.

DGB sounds like he can get a preseason training invite once he's delisted and be an SSP option if we keep a list spot open. Hard to see he has any interest from clubs.

 

[eaglevision]

Competing with Jacob Blight for a list position?

Of the two I think I would prefer Blight.

Blight apparently not settled at Richmond but they are going to offer him a contract extension which means we’d have to trade for him.

 

[Bacchus]

Here's The Herald Suns 'Ultimate Draft Guide'

https://archive.md/OtNgc

Hate the assumption that we will cough up a first round pick for Baker, the guy is so overrated by Vic media and supporters.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Jesus, didn't realise how bad DGB has been going at VFL level. I know he's a defender and there are other stats that might show he has some value but YUK.

 

[Obeanie1]

I know he's a potato and potentially delisted shortly, but we're silly not grabbing DGB via whatever bargain bin avenue pans out and backing ourselves to make something of his career. Either Barrass trade or DFA.

Our KPP development has been solid for a number of years, it's a free swing picking him up and seeing what a new environment does for his game. He's a pick 6 after all.

Particularly for a list position we're now no longer flush with. Bazzo (jury still out) as depth behind Hedwards and Gov, and that's it.

Or Blight.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Jesus, didn't realise how bad DGB has been going at VFL level. I know he's a defender and there are other stats that might show he has some value but YUK.
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If you looked purely at Glass or Mackenzie’s stats you’d probably be unimpressed too.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If you looked purely at Glass or Mackenzie’s stats you’d probably be unimpressed too.

If Glass or McKenzie went back to WAFL they would have had 20 touches and 10 marks a game.

Willing to hear that DGB is a lockdown gorilla though, and his stats don't reflect that. But jesus, averaging 10 touches and a handful of marks this year ain't promising.