List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[TerryFilk]

Oh god, does 3 for 12 and 14 actually have legs?

That’d go down as one of the worse trades ever when factoring in we will give 14 to Richmond for Baker.

Imagine turning a top 3 pick into 12 and Baker lmao

Refuse to believe we’re stupid enough to do that

 

[TY24]

Did everyone actually read the part where it says there are more moving parts and it won't be a straight swap of 3 for 12+14?

Our sheets were almost dry. Almost.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Ugh, and I just brought the sheets in off the line too.

 

[TerryFilk]

Did everyone actually read the part where it says there are more moving parts and it won't be a straight swap of 3 for 12+14?

Our sheets were almost dry. Almost.

More moving parts is almost always code for later picks being involved

If it was something notable it would’ve been mentioned, Carlton have no other assets so a third team will likely be involved but still, I don’t see a world where we get a good deal for 3 when gifting it to Carlton.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

Here is a video from a Hawthorn fan about the Hawthorn Carlton trade and what it means for the Barrass trade that is remarkably level headed.

 

[Spange]

 

[Ghossein]

you lot every time someone tweets something

 

[Ghossein]

"THE CLUB IS MAKING THE WORST CHOICES"

my brother in christ all we have done is trade darling to norf

 

[TY24]

More moving parts is almost always code for later picks being involved

If it was something notable it would’ve been mentioned, Carlton have no other assets so a third team will likely be involved but still, I don’t see a world where we get a good deal for 3 when gifting it to Carlton.

Other moving parts could be later picks, or it could be Carlton trading 12+14 for something higher (Essendon's 9 or GC's 6 for example)

I doubt we've held firm the way we have just to trade 3 away for chump change.

 

[Grahame]

2027 is the Tasmania draft. They are coming into the comp in 2028. However 2 year future trading is coming in next year which would be teams trading 2027 picks, which would have little value.

Having future picks next year isn't a bad thing. The more high F/S and academy picks there are, the more valuable first round picks will be for points. If we had Hawks and Carlton future 1sts we can auction them off to the highest bidder. Look at GC. They will need even more points than they do now to get Zeke Uwland.

I thought the AFL had said they want Tassie to be successful from day one. If not explicitly stated it was implied that they wouldn’t be set up like the two northern teams, that is, based on repeated multiple good picks. Established players would be at least a good part of it.

Thus we can’t know how much Tassie will compromise - further compromise - the draft/trade.

 

[ronpingwins]

Other moving parts could be later picks, or it could be Carlton trading 12+14 for something higher (Essendon's 9 or GC's 6 for example)

I doubt we've held firm the way we have just to trade 3 away for chump change.

Maybe, but more likely 12/14 the core. Carroll; later picks the moving parts. Really doubt it’s anything we wnat

 

[Bender_]

"THE CLUB IS MAKING THE WORST CHOICES"

my brother in christ all we have done is trade darling to norf

Yeah but we wanted to trade Darling for Darling, we got ripped off coz of Jellyfish Clarke.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Other moving parts could be later picks, or it could be Carlton trading 12+14 for something higher (Essendon's 9 or GC's 6 for example)

I doubt we've held firm the way we have just to trade 3 away for chump change.

I can't see how it happens unless there's a bidding war for Matt Owies and/or Jack Carroll. You don't have any salary dump prospects by chance?

 

[eaglespremiers]

Did everyone actually read the part where it says there are more moving parts and it won't be a straight swap of 3 for 12+14?

What else would Carlton be able to give? Need a substantial amount more (i.e. a top 10 pick) to make it worth it for West Coast.

 

[TY24]

I can't see how it happens unless there's a bidding war for Matt Owies and/or Jack Carroll. You don't have any salary dump prospects by chance?

Jack Pettrucelle, come on down!

 

[maxrm]

12 + 14 + Moir + Carroll for 3.

On trade 14 for Swans’ 19 + 22

Trade one of them for Baker (should be 22 but I doubt we push hard enough)

2024 draft hand = 12, 19/22, 26, Champion

Trade Barrass + F2 for Hawthorn’s 2 x F1s

2025 draft hand = 3 x First Rounders for the strong WA group and of course a potential Warner pursuit

Don’t love sliding so far back in this year’s draft but if the recruiters are frothing over the depth of the draft more than the upper end then something like the above isn’t disastrous. Sounds like we were big on Moir last year too and he’s a WCE supporter so if we can snare him as part of the deal then it becomes viable.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

"THE CLUB IS MAKING THE WORST CHOICES"

my brother in christ all we have done is trade darling to norf

YEAH, BUT NOT FOR THE RIGHT PICK IN THE 60s!!!

 

[TY24]

What else would Carlton be able to give? Need a substantial amount more (i.e. a top 10 pick) to make it worth it for West Coast.

That's on them to work out.

 

[TerryFilk]

12 + 14 + Moir + Carroll for 3.

On trade 14 for Swans’ 19 + 22

Trade one of them for Baker (should be 22 but I doubt we push hard enough)

2024 draft hand = 12, 19/22, 26, Champion

Trade Barrass + F2 for Hawthorn’s 2 x F1s

2025 draft hand = 3 x First Rounders for the strong WA group and of course a potential Warner pursuit

Don’t love sliding so far back in this year’s draft but if the recruiters are frothing over the depth of the draft more than the upper end then something like the above isn’t disastrous. Sounds like we were big on Moir last year too and he’s a WCE supporter so if we can snare him as part of the deal then it becomes viable.

Disgusting.

 

[Wce17]

12 and 14 isn't enough for 3 on it's own, be interesting to see what else could be involved.

It makes no sense. If this is the case we would have been better off taking the Barrass deal while would have got us 14 anyway & we would still have 3 intact.

 

[TerryFilk]

It makes no sense. If this is the case we would have been better off taking the Barrass deal while would have got us 14 anyway & we would still have 3 intact.

The entire board praising Clark for standing firm yesterday (including myself) might not age well if we get even less for Barrass and give up 3 in a ridiculous deal like that

He’d be the most hated man in WA

 

[6285sutto]

I cant tell if the lack of trades today is because its been such a boring trade period or if trades cant/don't happen over the weekends as everyone is resting up from a week of rest. Can someone please clarify ?

 

[TerryFilk]

I cant tell if the lack of trades today is because its been such a boring trade period or if trades cant/don't happen over the weekends as everyone is resting up from a week of rest. Can someone please clarify ?

From memory trades rarely if ever happen on the weekends, usually it’s pretty quiet bar from the odd update like from Rhino today.

Monday should be fun

 

[TY24]

I cant tell if the lack of trades today is because its been such a boring trade period or if trades cant/don't happen over the weekends as everyone is resting up from a week of rest. Can someone please clarify ?

List managers get the weekend off after doing nothing but posturing and sipping lattes all week

(Officially trades can't be processed over the weekend AFAIK)

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Jack Pettrucelle, come on down!

No long term deals you're not happy with?