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Whose future picks would you have preferred?

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

  • Jai Culley, Alex Witherden and Coby Burgiel delisted






  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

 
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Happy Mastenator said:
****, i hate talk of splitting a top 3 pick, unless it's an absurd massive overpay by a team, hated it when we did it in 2022 (Sheezel >>>>>> Ginbey and Hewett (injury has killed him)), will hate it if we do it this year.
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If you can clearly define for us who those top 3 are I hear you. But I don’t believe you can. So essentially we get that 3 at 6 anyway such is the nature of this draft with say an 11 thrown in for nothing.

I believe the top 6 or 7 are far more even than plenty of previous drafts have been, it’s stark compared to last years pool imo. I think out of those available at 6 this year for example you’d be hard pressed to argue they weren’t legitimate top 3 chances anyway. I like it
 
Yeahnahmate said:
If you can clearly define for us who those top 3 are I hear you. But I don’t believe you can. So essentially we get that 3 at 6 anyway such is the nature of this draft with say an 11 thrown in for nothing.

I believe the top 6 or 7 are far more even than plenty of previous drafts have been, it’s stark compared to last years pool imo. I think out of those available at 6 this year for example you’d be hard pressed to argue they weren’t legitimate top 3 chances anyway. I like it
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he and the angry mob will tell you in two years, who we should have got.
 

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Happy Mastenator said:
****, i hate talk of splitting a top 3 pick, unless it's an absurd massive overpay by a team, hated it when we did it in 2022 (Sheezel >>>>>> Ginbey and Hewett (injury has killed him)), will hate it if we do it this year.
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We couldn't have gotten Sheezel. Saying it alot will never make it true
 
Yeahnahmate said:
If you can clearly define for us who those top 3 are I hear you. But I don’t believe you can. So essentially we get that 3 at 6 anyway such is the nature of this draft with say an 11 thrown in for nothing.

I believe the top 6 or 7 are far more even than plenty of previous drafts have been, it’s stark compared to last years pool imo. I think out of those available at 6 this year for example you’d be hard pressed to argue they weren’t legitimate top 3 chances anyway. I like it
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GWS guy on Gettable today. Mentioned he thought whilst more even than previous years, there were still likely only 2 or 3 guys in the equation for pick 1, but it would be team dependent.

Mentioned FOS and Lalor specifically, leaving a guess at the other but one would assume Jagga (Ashcroft probably doesn't count).
 
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bzparkes said:
Wore an old polo to training and got told off by Simmo for it?

Also, that's not you in the red Jeep filming on closed training days, I hope
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I still have that polo and still wear it to game days - it’s a 20 year polo so next year it’ll reach legal drinking age

And I don’t own a red jeep
 
The article version of this morning’s Gettable is now up.



RICHMOND has upped its offer for free agent Jack Graham to four years, hopeful the premiership midfielder will commit his future to the club.

Graham has been weighing up a four-year deal from West Coast throughout the season, where he can move as an unrestricted free agent, but had also been considering a smaller offer to potentially stay at the Tigers.

However, Richmond has since moved to retain Graham by tabling a longer-term deal having already received trade requests from fellow premiership stars Liam Baker, Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli in recent weeks.

Baker and Bolton have interest from both West Coast and Fremantle within their home state of Western Australia, while Rioli appears destined for Gold Coast where he will reunite with former coach Damien Hardwick.
A coaching call at the Eagles could also be key to Baker, Bolton and Graham's final decisions, with Melbourne assistant Andrew McQualter in the frame for the vacant West Coast coaching job.

McQualter had previously spent the best part of a decade as an assistant at Richmond and has good relationships with Baker, Bolton and Graham, playing a significant role in the club's trio of premiership victories under Hardwick.

He also spent the last 13 games of last season acting as a caretaker coach at Richmond following Hardwick's abrupt departure, guiding the Tigers to a 7-6 record in the back half of the season
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Yeah right, the Jack Graham stuff is a bit weird.
I mean if they rate him then great, but it does seem an odd decision for a list in their shape, but fair enough.
 
Mop said:
Yeah right, the Jack Graham stuff is a bit weird.
I mean if they rate him then great, but it does seem an odd decision for a list in their shape, but fair enough.
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Same reason we want him though. Work hard, do the dirty shit, protect the prized kids from being over exposed and sniped. Four years is a lot (I get it for us as we need to turn his head) but I think the Jack Graham chat has gotten far too negative.

He’s a role player and both of our clubs will be predominantly children going into next year. You need some senior presence who can dig in out there, even if they’re not the ones you want with the pill in their hands 25+ times.
 
HoneyBadger35 said:
Same reason we want him though. Work hard, do the dirty shit, protect the prized kids from being over exposed and sniped. Four years is a lot (I get it for us as we need to turn his head) but I think the Jack Graham chat has gotten far too negative.

He’s a role player and both of our clubs will be predominantly children going into next year. You need some senior presence who can dig in out there, even if they’re not the ones you want with the pill in their hands 25+ times.
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I spose, but clearly they've shifted priorities if they're only now offering him a 4 year deal.
I agree, he'd improve our depth in a critical area, but I also won't shed tears if he decides to stay put
 
So, we've extended Archer Reid by two years.
Personally happy with that.

But it raises a bit of a 'where do we fit him in?' type dilemma.
203cm tall forward.
1 - We've got O Allen. 196cm. Genuine KPF and good age.
2 - We've got Jake Waterman. Good age (at 26 a bit older than most of the others but in sweet age spot for what is lacking on our list), 2024 AA. At 191cm more of a 3rd tall but was very good overhead in 2024 and played well above his reported height.
3 - We've got J Williams. 198cm. Good age. Showed a fair bit in 2024 including a couple of 3 goal games.
4 - B Williams. 200cm. Ruck/forward. Like him or not he has to be in this discussion. Good age.
5 - Darling. At the end of his career but still has a forward presence. Obviously won't be part of our next finals era and probably sidelined a fair bit in 2025.
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6 - Maric. Forgot him and he's been good. Just adds to the argument that if there is one area we are ok in, it's tall forwards.

With Jamo and Flynn and Barnett as potential ruck options who can rest forward what do we do with all these tall forward/ruck play forward types?

Do we turn one of these guys into a KPD?
We're a bit lacking of lockdown talls down back if I'm honest. Barrass (Yes, I know) and Gov are two of the best intercept markers in the AFL, but neither are accountable, lock down types. They do a great job when allowed to peel off and use their own judgement, but when forced into a lock down role they are exposed.
Bomb it in long over 50-60m, laughing. Short pass 30m leaving Gov/Barrass another 30m away in no man's land and we as a team get caught out.

Is A Reid a potential KPD? Is Jamo? Or J Williams? Or Barnett?

Jamo hasn't come on as a ruck, but does he have what it takes to defend one on one?

How do we get games into Archer Reid? Looks like a better prospect than most.
If the (nearly) worst team in the comp can't get games into one of the better KPF prospects anywhere, what are we doing?
 
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Richmond are at risk of losing Rioli, Bolton, Baker and Graham albeit they have a say in whether to trade Rioli and/or Bolton since they’re contracted

That’s on top of the retirements of Martin, Grimes and Pickett. Cotchin and Reiwoldt also retired last year

Not surprise they want to keep Graham at the club given he’s not likely to be on huge money and he may only generate a pick in the high 30’s as band 4 FA compo if he does leave and the AFL do their job
 
1Bally1 said:
on that topic why don't we rookie list form 2nd round pick 2022 James Van es who was injured all year and delisted. He is a 195cm key defender who we could develop rookie list surely.
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****ed ankle. Had 3 operations on the same injury and likely will never be right.
Would have made a decent lockdown fullback otherwise.
 
CountryLad said:
I doubt Hotton will, just can’t see a club taking a bloke with an ACL injury in the top 10.

Agree that Reid is definitely in that top group. He’s probably got the most well rounded game and skill set in the draft.

Decision making and ball use is very good, arguably the best in the draft pool.
Has good speed and agility.
Accumulates as well as anyone including Jagga. Vic Metro MVP, and probably has the best current form of anyone in the Coates league.

Some big ticks right there.
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I don't think big injuries phase clubs anymore. (I certainly do worry😬)
You may slide a little but someone will pull the trigger.

I think that Hotton having that huge game against Oakleigh earlier in the season happening right before injury will be the lasting memory in the back of people's minds.

Agreed on Murphy, seems a really solid choice, high floor.
 
dinnaz said:
****ed ankle. Had 3 operations on the same injury and likely will never be right.
Would have made a decent lockdown fullback otherwise.
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It's proper ****ed. Can't feel his foot properly, can't explosively push off of it and hurts every time he kicks a ball with it. Some kids are just unlucky.
 
MrWoollie said:
So, we've extended Archer Reid by two years.
Personally happy with that.

But it raises a bit of a 'where do we fit him in?' type dilemma.
203cm tall forward.
1 - We've got O Allen. 196cm. Genuine KPF and good age.
2 - We've got Jake Waterman. Good age (at 26 a bit older than most of the others but in sweet age spot for what is lacking on our list), 2024 AA. At 191cm more of a 3rd tall but was very good overhead in 2024 and played well above his reported height.
3 - We've got J Williams. 198cm. Good age. Showed a fair bit in 2024 including a couple of 3 goal games.
4 - B Williams. 200cm. Ruck/forward. Like him or not he has to be in this discussion. Good age.
5 - Darling. At the end of his career but still has a forward presence. Obviously won't be part of our next finals era and probably sidelined a fair bit in 2025.

With Jamo and Flynn and Barnett as potential ruck options who can rest forward what do we do with all these tall forward/ruck play forward types?

Do we turn one of these guys into a KPD?
We're a bit lacking of lockdown talls down back if I'm honest. Barrass (Yes, I know) and Gov are two of the best intercept markers in the AFL, but neither are accountable, lock down types. They do a great job when allowed to peel off and use their own judgement, but when forced into a lock down role they are exposed.
Bomb it in long over 50-60m, laughing. Short pass 30m leaving Gov/Barrass another 30m away in no man's land and we as a team get caught out.

Is A Reid a potential KPD? Is Jamo? Or J Williams? Or Barnett?

Jamo hasn't come on as a ruck, but does he have what it takes to defend one on one?

How do we get games into Archer Reid? Looks like a better prospect than most.
If the (nearly) worst team in the comp can't get games into one of the better KPF prospects anywhere, what are we doing?
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Oscar and Jake are our tall forwards for the next half a dozen years. I hope next year we play our best ruck (currently Flynn) and JWilliams as well as giving Archer a taste when form, injury and structure allow. Other than making sure he gets to 300, I can’t see Darling playing too many more games in the royal blue and gold but would think he would add a lot to the beagles next year which is why I don’t want to trade him for a throwaway pick.

I’d love to get blight over who is at worst an excellent WAFL KPD as well as taking two in the draft. Taking the Peatlings/Davies etc will at least mean there is midfield depth at the Beagles too as players fight for senior spots. Archer looks to be an excellent KPF prospect and I’d like to keep him there but the concern is his development being destroyed in the Beagles without changes such as the above.
 
Obeanie1 said:
And that shows why our pick 3 may be very valueable to one club but not so much to others.

Such a broad number of views and player ratings.

Someone falls hard and really wants a player they may just come calling.
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Here's fingers crossed. In 2022 trading out pick 2
# 2= #8 & #12
so less for pick 3
#3 = #7 & #24 (st.k as example)

It's more like the 2017 draft again. No real standout and the top 7 who were all mids could have gone in any order and there were a few games played especially by Freo.

LDU, Cerra & Brayshaw (how on earth did he win an MVP😵‍💫) at #2 ,#4, #5 are good but not great players amongst -Rayner #1 whose dead set average, and #3 Dow who was a bust.
 
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Yeahnahmate said:
If you can clearly define for us who those top 3 are I hear you. But I don’t believe you can. So essentially we get that 3 at 6 anyway such is the nature of this draft with say an 11 thrown in for nothing.

I believe the top 6 or 7 are far more even than plenty of previous drafts have been, it’s stark compared to last years pool imo. I think out of those available at 6 this year for example you’d be hard pressed to argue they weren’t legitimate top 3 chances anyway. I like it
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Im not going to be a draft expert just hate the idea in principle. If it’s even as you say you’re not getting the picks yo make it worthwhile anyway. Just take the most surefire a grade midfielder at 3. We can’t mess this up.
 
HoneyBadger35 said:
Same reason we want him though. Work hard, do the dirty shit, protect the prized kids from being over exposed and sniped. Four years is a lot (I get it for us as we need to turn his head) but I think the Jack Graham chat has gotten far too negative.

He’s a role player and both of our clubs will be predominantly children going into next year. You need some senior presence who can dig in out there, even if they’re not the ones you want with the pill in their hands 25+ times.
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And they'll be hoping we up our offer and trigger higher compo.

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rebel23 said:
Is Oscar unsigned after next year??? Same situation as Brayshaw... Get ready for the circus
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Allen is a WA boy and club captain- the likelihood of him leaving is low to the point of being non-existent. We also have plenty of salary cap room

Brayshaw doesn’t quite have those same local ties and Fremantle probably have less cap space, especially if they get Bolton. That said, I expect Brayshaw to stay with Freo
 
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