List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Watching this whole trade period so far be like


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There’s a horrible sense of impending doom that we’re about to do something really stupid based solely on speculative media reports and our own negative perceptions, real or imagined, of our trading history. Which it must be said was under different management to who we have now

The only significant thing we’ve done, or more precisely haven’t done, so far is refuse to roll over for a tummy tickle from Hawthorn and accept their lowball offer for Barrass. That should, and has been on this board at least, viewed as a positive

In media land, however, we’ve apparently dropped the ball by not accepting that offer of either pick 14 and an exchange of of our F3 with Hawthorns F2 or possibly just 14 on it’s own

For whatever reason, it’s been determined that we’re the only club that should be accepting whatever is put in front of us for a contracted player when the likes of Richmond are actively encouraged to push for the maximum return for Rioli and Bolton. Plus the contracted Baker because we’ve promised to bring him in

No mention that Hawthorn actively and quite publicly pursued Barrass, offering him a generous contract extension in the process, only to put the bare minimum on the table after having weeks to prepare a trade offer. Then blew up negotiations because they didn’t get their answer inside the first week when they have no other deals to get done

It’s all quite pathetic

Yet the fear of us doing something stupid just won’t go away despite Pyke barely putting a foot wrong since taking over

Yeah looking forward to the folk suggesting Baker to Freo is on the cards to realise Barrass could be sold off to Hawks, North, Bulldogs, Melbourne, Collingwood, St Kilda, Carlton, Geelong, Richmond, or Essendon.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

I feel like the constant calls of trading Barrass to other suitors just isn't realistic. Despite everyone crying about it.

Oh totally agree - but also the reverse is true, Baker's pull to WCE is Mini, Graham and playing for the club he supported as a kid.

I feel like this shop him around narrative is born out of the media asserting every player coming to WA should go to the highest bidder out of WCE & Freo.

 

[Bacchus]

Hoping if there are discussions of turning pick 3 for 12 and 14, Pyke puts on list management hat, waltzes into the meeting rooms with Carlton and back hands Clarke in the chops.

#3 for #12 and #14 would be the worst deal in this club’s long history of poor deals.

 

[BSD]

Carlton want pick 3 because O'Sullivan is Sam Walsh's cousin , plus looks a very good player .....but likes the option of playing at WC also.

Don't stuff it up .

Don't do any deals at all with Carlton especially our picks this year and future picks next year. Don't deal with them
as they have an ulterior motive.
Willem Duursma is in next years draft, he's highly rated and Carlton love to get him to help persuade Harley to join him and Yasmin there.

 

[Hook461123]

Can’t help but think Freo know Baker doesn’t want to go there and are just trying to up his price.

Don’t understand the narrative Eagles are the ones holding out. Tigers could get multiple deals done quickly tomorrow if they wanted.

10+18 for Bolton is fair.
6 for Rioli is overs
6+18 for 3 you would think is fair.
18 for Baker is fair
Ergo 3,10,18 to Tigers
6 & Baker to Eagles
Bolton to Freo
Rioli to GCS.
Maybe some future 3rds around the edges.
Everyone wins, not sure why it isn’t talked about as an option in the media when it’s so obvious.

 

[Mop]

Industry sources tell me that Jagga Smith's camp believe he'll be going interstate.

Edit: Disregard.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Can’t help but think Freo know Baker doesn’t want to go there and are just trying to up his price.

Don’t understand the narrative Eagles are the ones holding out. Tigers could get multiple deals done quickly tomorrow if they wanted.

10+18 for Bolton is fair.
6 for Rioli is overs
6+18 for 3 you would think is fair.
18 for Baker is fair
Ergo 3,10,18 to Tigers
6 & Baker to Eagles
Bolton to Freo
Rioli to GCS.
Maybe some future 3rds around the edges.
Everyone wins, not sure why it isn’t talked about as an option in the media when it’s so obvious.

I don't hate it

 

[BartBart]

Can’t help but think Freo know Baker doesn’t want to go there and are just trying to up his price.

Don’t understand the narrative Eagles are the ones holding out. Tigers could get multiple deals done quickly tomorrow if they wanted.

10+18 for Bolton is fair.
6 for Rioli is overs
6+18 for 3 you would think is fair.
18 for Baker is fair
Ergo 3,10,18 to Tigers
6 & Baker to Eagles
Bolton to Freo
Rioli to GCS.
Maybe some future 3rds around the edges.
Everyone wins, not sure why it isn’t talked about as an option in the media when it’s so obvious.

Gold Coast wins paying 6 for Rioli?

 

[pantskyle]

Norf Melbourne, as they are soooo short on young midfielders?

Not sure Melbourne is interstate to Victoria.

 

[Hook461123]

Gold Coast wins paying 6 for Rioli?

Really? Personally think he’s only worth 13 rather than 6. Don’t understand how it could possibly be more then 6 craziness

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Not sure Melbourne is interstate to Victoria.

They will be when they transform into the Tasmanian Devils

 

[Mop]

Not sure Melbourne is interstate to Victoria.

Duh, I thought Jagga was from SA.


Woops

 

[WCE_Phill]

Don't think its very hard, keep it simple

Barrass and F3 to Hawks for F1 & Carlton F1

Trade our F1 & Carlton F1 to St Kilda for 7, 8

Pick 23 for Baker

Pick 61 for Dev

2024: 3, 7, 8, Baker, Graham and Dev
2025: Hawks F1, R2, R4

 

[Yeahnahmate]

I'm not so sure about that last line, but it'd be nice if someone in the media would point this out; Hawthorn publicly courted him - in season mind you - and when Hawks throw the toys out of the cot (according to the media) it's us that have screwed them around to the point of them giving in the first week? F*ck off.

Media: ‘Hawthorn throw the toys out of the cot - sick of waiting for West Coast to come to the party on TB’

Reality: Hawks offer not strong enough for an important & contracted player so they have taken our gift registry and are currently busy filling our shopping cart so they can get their man

 

[twce13]

Don't think its very hard, keep it simple

Barrass and F3 to Hawks for F1 & Carlton F1

Trade our F1 & Carlton F1 to St Kilda for 7, 8

Pick 23 for Baker

Pick 61 for Dev

2024: 3, 7, 8, Baker, Graham and Dev
2025: Hawks F1, R2, R4

Simple and unrealistic

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Industry sources tell me that Jagga Smith's camp believe he'll be going interstate.

I'd love Jagga at the Eagles, he's perfect for us. Huge work rate, one of the best I've seen u18s. Clearance beast, I don't have issue with his size. Look at Hough, he's starting to put good size on.

 

[Bacchus]

Don't think its very hard, keep it simple

Barrass and F3 to Hawks for F1 & Carlton F1

Trade our F1 & Carlton F1 to St Kilda for 7, 8

Pick 23 for Baker

Pick 61 for Dev

2024: 3, 7, 8, Baker, Graham and Dev
2025: Hawks F1, R2, R4

Very nice but no chance.

SK won the lottery in being gifted #8 after their chairman had a tantrum at their b & f.

#7 and #8 are in the sweet spot and they won’t be trading them.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Don't think its very hard, keep it simple

Barrass and F3 to Hawks for F1 & Carlton F1

Trade our F1 & Carlton F1 to St Kilda for 7, 8

Pick 23 for Baker

Pick 61 for Dev

2024: 3, 7, 8, Baker, Graham and Dev
2025: Hawks F1, R2, R4

Trading our f1 is just crazy talk. Just like it was last year.

Imaging having curtain instead of pick 3 in a loaded draft this year.

Not to mention if we want any chance of Warner next year we need our future first to be available.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Simple and unrealistic

How so?

The Barrass one isnt far off whats currently been talked about

The Saints trade based on this year ladder position is dead even, with the potential to slightly favour either side?

Saints might not completely trade out of R1

So could do WC F1 & Carl F1 for 7 & Stk F1

 

[WCE_Phill]

Trading our f1 is just crazy talk. Just like it was last year.

Imaging having curtain instead of pick 3 in a loaded draft this year.

Not to mention if we want any chance of Warner next year we need our future first to be available.

Its loading up on talent this year, we need talent now!

A draft of FOS, Travaglia and Draper is mint!

We still have Hawks F1 and 2026 F1 to trade for Warner

 

[MaxHunt]

Can’t help but think Freo know Baker doesn’t want to go there and are just trying to up his price.

Don’t understand the narrative Eagles are the ones holding out. Tigers could get multiple deals done quickly tomorrow if they wanted.

10+18 for Bolton is fair.
6 for Rioli is overs
6+18 for 3 you would think is fair.
18 for Baker is fair
Ergo 3,10,18 to Tigers
6 & Baker to Eagles
Bolton to Freo
Rioli to GCS.
Maybe some future 3rds around the edges.
Everyone wins, not sure why it isn’t talked about as an option in the media when it’s so obvious.

In what world is pick 18 for Baker fair? Good player, love to have him but he's worth mid 20's. The Eagles 2nd is about spot on.

 

[ZergMinion]

How so?

The Barrass one isnt far off whats currently been talked about

The Saints trade based on this year ladder position is dead even, with the potential to slightly favour either side?

Saints might not completely trade out of R1

So could do WC F1 & Carl F1 for 7 & Stk F1

Hawks haven't offered that and best case won't offer it till late Wednesday, there's no universe where St kilda trade those picks for future picks given we couldn't trade our pick this year for Curtin last year, and we don't have 23 anymore because it's 26.

 

[Biggie]

Adult diapers on hold

 

[mat11]

SCENARIO 1,
Barass + F3 - OUT
Hawks F1 + Hawks F1 (Carl) - IN

F1 (hawks) + F1 (Carl) - OUT
GC 6 + F3 - IN

2024 - 3,6,26,63,68
2025 - R1,R2,R3(GC),R4

SCENARIO 2
Barass + F4 - OUT
Hawks F1 + Hawks F2 + 33 - IN

Hawks F1 + Hawks F2 - OUT
GC 13- IN

2024 - 3,13,26,33,63,68
2025 - R1,R2,R3

SCENARIO 2 HYBRID
Barass + F4 - OUT
Hawks F1 + Hawks F2 + 33 - IN

Hawks F1 + Hawks F2 - OUT
GC 13 - IN

13 + 26 + 33 - OUT
ESS 8 + 31 + F2 - IN

2024 - 3,8,31,63,68
2025 - R1,R2,R2(Ess),R3

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[Mop]

Adult diapers on hold

Mop, Bucket and Meltman on firm hold again today.