List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Mattman93]

If we have a particular interest in FOS, that might be one reason for an openness to downgrading 3 -- it's beginning to seem like everyone else does too, and with Lalor firming for 1, clubs are coming for North's 2.

 

[Goomba1973]

I'd be pretty surprised if he ended up in the PSD. Every year there's people calling for clubs to walk players to the PSD but it almost never happens. It's just bad business.

Fully expect him to end up at WCE, we have second rounders to offer.

It's not bad business , it's an untracked player

Because it lands Baker in the process, and pick 24 just happens to be first pick of the 2nd night of the Draft. Means you have 24 hours to decide who to pick, or can live trade it. A valuable position every Draft.

Terrible deal. We lose access to guns, FOS, Lalor, Smith etc... for a pretty decent 27 year old utility is woefully bad ... hang onto pick 3 and use it on draft night . Use the Barrass F1 to get back into the 1st round and offer a f2 for Baker...If Rich don't take it then so be it..apart from some mongrel he doesn't fill an immediate need on the list

Because it lands Baker in the process, and pick 24 just happens to be first pick of the 2nd night of the Draft. Means you have 24 hours to decide who to pick, or can live trade it. A valuable position every Draft.

So you getting to wait 24hrs and getting decent but not great player and the only cost is missing out on a top end gun mid we can long term pair up with Reid ....sure ....why not delay the rebuild a bit longer.

 

[archiemoses]

My industry sources told me that the supposed Carlton trade was so ****ing stupid and made no sense.

That's what everyone thought except carlton fans. Bless them

 

[Off Tap]

Melbourne are set to acquire Pick 9 from Essendon



What would people think about 5+9 for 3?

WCE would bite their hand off.

Trouble is Dees would never do that.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Tomorrow Matt Clarke just needs to walk into the Hawks room and be like

 

[archiemoses]

us accepting a future first and a second pick is no different to us accepting pick 14 and a future or current second.

whorks can GAGF.

14 and a future second was never offered.

 

[KERRPOW]

14 and a future second was never offered.

Pick 14 on its wasnt enough

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

14 and a future second was never offered.

F1st and F2nd though is worth less then 14. That is the market that has been set since that trade was done.

Hawks lost that trade with Carlton so now have less assets, not more

 

[salo]

Mate I don’t value him all that highly.

But your club wants him

You'll find almost everyone here feels the same. It's absurd.

 

[Rowan18]

Was in a different tweet
hawks back in the market for a pick this year too lmao

What? Hawks traded their pick 14 and now trying to buy back pick 13, what with? That's a stupid as the gag meme of us trading Darling to get Darling back.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What? Hawks traded their pick 14 and now trying to buy back pick 13, what with? That's a stupid as the gag meme of us trading Darling to get Darling back.

They know they ****ed up

 

[BartBart]

Why can't we get 7 + 8 for 3 + 26

And say to Richmond sorry you didn't want to trade down and now we are taking 7 + 8 to draft night .

We have a f2 and f3 !

I bet Richmond (& their sycophants in the media) would then claim Baker is worth pick 7

 

[random260]

Far it beginning to feel like siddy boi will be there at 3.

Richmond seemed locked in on Lalor. Norf seem to want to either slide down or go for Tauru. There hasn't been much link with Draper and Norf/Richmond yet. And vic teams want pick 2 for FOS

Hold firm

 

[BartBart]

Mate I don’t value him all that highly.

But your club wants him

Like Hawthorn want a contracted Barrass?

 

[random260]

Wow what the **** did we do to Dev.

What's his problem with us



Does he get annoyed that he has to live up the shadow that is Darren Glass

Darren Glass

Age

43

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.6

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.0

3star

?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

What a dickhead....either way they'd be ****en dumb to do that trade

Also not what they want at all. They had 5. They chased Freo for 10 or 11 and have now found 9.

They want more picks in this draft, nor fewer. Non starter for us.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

It's not bad business , it's an untracked player

Disagree - if it was good, it would happen all the time.

• One team gets nothing, not good for club relations and future trade opportunities.
• Club is viewed by players and player managers as a difficult operator and won't do what's necessary to get a deal done
• Player who's nominated you is left in uncertain limbo - I.e. risk that Richmond will pick Baker up in the PSD before us.

It's just an all round shitshow. Yeah a zero sum approach might give you something to beat your chest about in the short term, but in the long term it's more damaging than good.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Sts lost Battle.meh!
Sts got P8. Yeeha.
Barass to Sts.
P8 to WC.
Everybody wins. Sts get a free upgrade on Battle.Barass gets to Melbourne .WC get a single figure pick.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Wow what the **** did we do to Dev.

What's his problem with us



Does he get annoyed that he has to live up the shadow that is Darren Glass?

Do we have anything to base that off other than FlyPies Pies Content saying it?

Probably a Code Sports article (which I can’t find?) that has Collingwood listed as one of the possible clubs and they’ve scraped it from that.

 

[eaglevision]

I can very much see a 2, 25, 44 for 5 and 9 deal coming between the Dees and North pantskyle

44 goes to Brisbane as main piece for Sharp, North probably take Tauru and Trainor. Dees get one of FOS and Lalor.

 

[Mop]

Sts lost Battle.meh!
Sts got P8. Yeeha.
Barass to Sts.
P8 to WC.
Everybody wins. Sts get a free upgrade on Battle.Barass gets to Melbourne .WC get a single figure pick.

St Kilda dont need Barrass, they aren't in their window.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Disagree - if it was good, it would happen all the time.

• One team gets nothing, not good for club relations and future trade opportunities.
• Club is viewed by players and player managers as a difficult operator and won't do what's necessary to get a deal done
• Player who's nominated you is left in uncertain limbo - I.e. risk that Richmond will pick Baker up in the PSD before us.

It's just an all round shitshow. Yeah a zero sum approach might give you something to beat your chest about in the short term, but in the long term it's more damaging than good.

Yeah but it would help us win trade week! And that means something apparently!

 

[Notmuchofanexpert]

That's what everyone thought except carlton fans. Bless them

Why are Carlton even coming to us with that trade offer? Go to North with that, it literally guarantees them the talls their list needs and Carlton get the better pick. As dumb as it is trading with us makes no sense to me.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Thats not enough for us you would think.

3 to 8 isn’t a huge shift in talent.

13 to a future second when it appears according to Tom Morris we are offering an F1 and F2 also doesn’t make sense.

In 2022 WCE traded pick 2 & 40 for 8 and 12.

 

[ep2018]

Wow what the **** did we do to Dev.

What's his problem with us



Does he get annoyed that he has to live up the shadow that is Darren Glass?

imo the bridge was burned with him last year when he committed to us and then changed his mind at the literal last minute.

Do not want any more anyway, Brisbane want a second rounder for him. Seem too high a price.