List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)
• AFL retirements and delistings
• Provisional 2025 Draft order

---

Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[stallon]

5 and 9 are seriously good picks right in the sweet spot IMO.

I would trade 3 plus a later F1st (not ours) for 5 and 9.

Yeah, would be awesome. Just gotta hope Saints dont nab travaglia, which I feel like they wont now, and its almost a perfect draft hand

 

[KERRPOW]

Wait a minute. Why are Essington allowed to match a bid for Kako within the top 40?
Did the AFL just change the rule this year, or is there another reason?

Cos the AwFL constantly change the goal posts to suit the narrative

 

[Altum Volantes]

Pfffft.

Feel free to list Hawthorn's 6 best midfielders.

2 best forwards.

And 2 best tall defenders.

And let's just see how far off (behind) the Eagles similar list is.

And they did start rebuilding 3 years before us.

Pro Tip: If you list Barrass and Battle as defenders and pretend Sicily is a forward then you don’t have to include Mabior Chol at all.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

AFL HQ went back to pre-J.Ugle-Hagan rules after the debacle last year with L.Collard.


Official "reason" was to keep numbers of indigenous draftees from falling.

Doesn't help us at all, but it allows the Bombers to match on I.Kako in the first round this year.

Then why was the St Kilda guy still complaining about this lol.
What date did they make the rule change? I thought they were still considering it.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Essendon fans broadly flat about this absolute home run of a deal that is borderline too good to be true?

Cause I guess they wanted to gamble on no bid coming in and getting a twofer?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Then why was the St Kilda guy still complaining about this lol.
What did they make the rule change?

Complained cause the draft is compromised to ****, with compo, academy, father son, all this (which it is).

Then the AFL handed them pick 8 for someone named Josh or John or Jake Battle? Suspiciously quiet on the western front after that, funnily enough.

 

[ronpingwins]

Essendon fans broadly flat about this absolute home run of a deal that is borderline too good to be true?

Cause I guess they wanted to gamble on no bid coming in and getting a twofer?

Got attached to this years platers

 

[Altum Volantes]

AFL HQ went back to pre-J.Ugle-Hagan rules after the debacle last year with L.Collard.


Official "reason" was to keep numbers of indigenous draftees from falling.

Doesn't help us at all, but it allows the Bombers to match on I.Kako in the first round this year.

I doubt Collard was on the radar - more so keeping the wolves at the door (aka every other club) so they can retain the armchair ride that the ‘Northern’ clubs get on their academies.

It won’t help us much this year - maybe if Champion slipped inside anyone’s top 40 but will work to our advantage eventually….assuming of course they don’t just change the rules again, which of course they will.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Yes, PLEASE try to convince him, Joe

 

[stallon]

Then why was the St Kilda guy still complaining about this lol.
What did they make the rule change?

The academies arent the same. NSW and QLD teams can add any player from their state to their academies, so all the good NSW or QLD kids go to those teams.
Vic, SA, and WA teams can only add indigenous or immigrant kids basically.

Its still a huge advantage for the northern state clubs

I think he specifically mentioned f/s picks though

 

[hudson2006]

I’m a little confused as to why we are ‘working with Baker’ to find a deal?

Nobody else is being framed that way.

Geelong aren’t working with Bailey Smith to find a deal and so forth.

Just seems odd.

Why would Baker have any say at all in what we pay for him at the trade table?…

Makes we wish for one of those normal years where we are a non-factor in trade week. Can’t stand the narratives that get built used to constantly frame everything.

The Barrass and Baker trades are totally independent, either could get done or not despite the other.

We’ll see.

 

[Obeanie1]

Pro Tip: If you list Barrass and Battle as defenders and pretend Sicily is a forward then you don’t have to include Mabior Chol at all.

Or we could disregard this trade period all together.

GE has his knickers in a knot seemingly because Hawthorn leap frogged us in their rebuild.

I actually don't rate Hawks list as highly as alot of people. Mitchell is certainly getting the most out of what they have.

Can see them easily regressing in 2025. Rebuilds are not linear.

 

[ziad]

The academies arent the same. NSW and QLD teams can add any player from their state to their academies, so all the good NSW or QLD kids go to those teams.
Vic, SA, and WA teams can only add indigenous or immigrant kids basically.

Its still a huge advantage for the northern state clubs

I think he specifically mentioned f/s picks though

Immigrant - one parent born OS - personal experience. It's about brand building except for NSW and Old where it is very serious talent ID.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

The academies arent the same. NSW and QLD teams can add any player from their state to their academies, so all the good NSW or QLD kids go to those teams.
Vic, SA, and WA teams can only add indigenous or immigrant kids basically.

Its still a huge advantage for the northern state clubs

I think he specifically mentioned f/s picks though

Is the Tassie team likely to have this arrangement, at least temporarily?
They can't claim to not be a traditionally AFL state.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Immigrant - one parent born OS - personal experience. It's about brand building except for NSW and Old where it is very serious talent ID.

Like young Nick Blakely - just a regular NSW kid who would have been lost to the game without a place in the Swans academy. Probably didn’t see a Sherrin until his first training session. He’d be lizard-scurrying around winning Premierships for Penrith right now if it wasn’t for the Swans academy!

 

[stallon]

Is the Tassie team likely to have this arrangement, at least temporarily?
They can't claim to not be a traditionally AFL state.

no idea, they probably do for a bit at least. They also might just give the tassy team access to tassy f/s kids, and a bunch of bonus picks for a few years and call it a day

 

[Altum Volantes]

Is the Tassie team likely to have this arrangement, at least temporarily?
They can't claim to not be a traditionally AFL state.

Very likely - I’m pretty sure it’s already in place.

While technically a traditional state, they have not exactly been a major producer of talent - the league will want a major focus on that to help boost retention that will be a challenge once the Vic clubs realise nobody wants to live in Tasmania.

 

[twce13]

Who doesn't wanna live in Tassie and enjoy those 17 degree summers...

 

[bzparkes]

Who doesn't wanna live in Tassie and enjoy those 17 degree summers...

Come on mate, it gets to mid 20s occasionally.

 

[twce13]

Come on mate, it gets to mid 20s occasionally.

It's trade period. Go hyperbole or go home.

 

[Mop]

Who doesn't wanna live in Tassie and enjoy those 17 degree summers...

But they have nice apples

And salmon

 

[bzparkes]

But they have nice apples

And salmon

Better cheese & oysters though.

Wine, whiskey and beer also very good.

 

[CountryLad]

As much as Freo should F off and stay out of our trade business as it’s the reason Bakers value is being talked up so high.

They may actually save us if splitting pick 3 becomes too difficult, Baker goes to Freo for pick 11 and that would probably put us in a strong position for Warner next year.

I’d like Baker at the club but at the right price and I don’t see that happening so we should walk away.

 

[Cuzz09]

Hobart's beautiful. Dunno about my 20 year old self would love it but my 44 year old self does.

Sent from my SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Dylan82]

Then why was the St Kilda guy still complaining about this lol.
What did they make the rule change?

The change to NGA matching was announced back in July:
‘Excitement machine’: AFL’s biggest winners of NGA change... and unlucky losers of years past


The complaints from St Kilda had a different, and far more shameless motive however.

St Kilda president A.Bassett aired his public complaints about drafting during their awards night on 30th September:
‘Sick and tired’: Saints boss slams AFL draft system over premiers’ access to prodigy as departing star snubbed

St Kilda then receive pick 8 compensation for J.Battle on 4th October:
Updated Hawks win the Battle: Compo pick confirmed as Saint completes move


But it's not compromised... Just complicated of course.