List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Yes - also love Tassie, it’s real nice. But guys I’m trying to concentrate on melting over here and rolling hills and cool climate wines just ain’t getting it done

 

[bUCKET__]

I dunno if it's been said anywhere that Freo would take Baker for 11 independently of the Bolton deal?

It's a different pot calling the kettle of fish black if it helps get Bolton over to their club. I'm sure Dockers fans would be melting at the prospect of adding Baker for that pick alone without Bolton being part of the discussion too. Happy to be corrected here though.

 

[Aarick13]

If Freo have offered pick 10,11 and 18 for Bolton and Baker then the only reason Richmond haven't accepted it is because we are working something out to get Baker.

 

[Ghossein]

Hobart's beautiful. Dunno about my 20 year old self would love it but my 44 year old self does.

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cheaper real estate, good restaurants, good road trip options and vineyards to visit

there are certainly worse places in the world

 

[Ghossein]

Unders or overs on this thread hitting 500 pages before an actual trade happens

 

[Lazzas]

So why do you ignore that we can get flankers with picks outside the first round? And all the major phantom drafts, why do none of them have flankers in the top10? You're being different for the sake of being different. Sort of what fearthers do. It's why I asked the question.

What pick did Lockie Whitfield go?

Luke Hodge?

I see Travagalia as that exact type of player.

And he will only cost a pick around 7 to 10.

My perfect draft is we get Travalgalia AND a Lindsay or if we do land another top 10 pick a sliding mid like Langford or Smillie. Lindsay at 10/11 would be just as good.

This draft is very hard to judge. The best mid may well just get taken after pick 10.

You call this being different for the sake of it. Well just focusing on using our lowest pick on a mid is simplistic without understanding the depth of this draft. And disregarding what the modern game has become or what our list needs are.

I actually agree with Obeanie1 I think Travagalia may well end up being one of the top 3 in the draft.

 

[Forward Press]

Forgotten player tipped to unlock three-way deal sending Dan Houston to Collingwood

Dan Houston appears a step closer to getting a move to Victoria as Port Adelaide, Collingwood and the Gold Coast make progress on a blockbuster three-way trade.

www.abc.net.au

AFL legend Paul Roos says Hawthorn is playing a dangerous game with its negotiations on a trade for West Coast's Tom Barrass.

The two teams' discussions had been centered around Hawthorn's first-rounder (currently pick 14), before the Hawks stunned the league by trading that pick to Carlton on Friday.

Reports around the trade suggested Hawthorn had grown tired of negotiations with the Eagles.

"This is a slap in the face from Hawthorn. They're going, 'F you, we're going to get him anyway'," Roos told the ABC AFL Daily podcast.

Tom Barrass's potential move to Hawthorn appears to be in jeopardy at this stage.(Getty Images)
"If Hawthorn misses out on Barrass it's a bonehead decision, an absolute bonehead decision.

"It stains them with the managers. This is what people don't understand. If Hawthorn don't do the deal for Barrass, let me tell you, the next time a Hawthorn person rings up (to discuss) a player who's contracted, let me tell you what the discussion is going to be: 'Not interested'.

"Some clubs are really easy to deal with, and the managers know that. The managers dictate when players will go and where they go.

"This is a stain on the Hawthorn Football Club if the Barrass deal doesn't get done by Wednesday."

Paul Roos goes whack on Hawthorn's approach. Tapping up a contracted player all year and then decides to trade away the draft pick that would certainly be involved in getting him over.

 

[Dylan82]

Is the Tassie team likely to have this arrangement, at least temporarily?
They can't claim to not be a traditionally AFL state.

Not yet, but it will be coming.

Tasmania currently falls under North Melbourne's NGA - hence why there are moves to swap them out for access to Darwin now that Gold Coast have been scaled back from having access there.

Once the alignment occurs between the Devils and the VFL, prior to the initiation of the team in AFL, the Tasmanian NGA zone will be set for them.

 

[squashface]

If Freo have offered pick 10,11 and 18 for Bolton and Baker then the only reason Richmond haven't accepted it is because we are working something out to get Baker.

Or probably because he hasn't agreed to go to Fremantle - which players need to do in the AFL before they are traded

 

[ziad]

cheaper real estate, good restaurants, good road trip options and vineyards to visit

there are certainly worse places in the world

decent wet suits - and thats in summer. but not bad.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

The change to NGA matching was announced back in July:
‘Excitement machine’: AFL’s biggest winners of NGA change... and unlucky losers of years past


The complaints from St Kilda had a different, and far more shameless motive however.

St Kilda president A.Bassett aired his public complaints about drafting during their awards night on 30th September:
‘Sick and tired’: Saints boss slams AFL draft system over premiers’ access to prodigy as departing star snubbed

St Kilda then receive pick 8 compensation for J.Battle on 4th October:
Updated Hawks win the Battle: Compo pick confirmed as Saint completes move


But it's not compromised... Just complicated of course.

When are they gonna stop teams from trading away picks so they can bundle a bunch of low picks?
How long has that even been in place?

 

[Obeanie1]

Forgotten player tipped to unlock three-way deal sending Dan Houston to Collingwood

Dan Houston appears a step closer to getting a move to Victoria as Port Adelaide, Collingwood and the Gold Coast make progress on a blockbuster three-way trade.

www.abc.net.au

Paul Roos goes whack on Hawthorn's approach. Tapping up a contracted player all year and then decides to trade away the draft pick that would certainly be involved in getting him over.

Great to read.

Some sense coming out of the Vic media finally. It's just a shame so many nuffie journos just chase clicks with silly headlines.

No surprise. Roos knows how the system works.

Over to you Hawks.

 

[Coasters7]

Trade Radio with full segments about failed deals and past moves. Officially irrelevant

 

[DanWCE]

If Freo have offered pick 10,11 and 18 for Bolton and Baker then the only reason Richmond haven't accepted it is because we are working something out to get Baker.

Freo might have tabled those picks but we haven't heard what they have requested to come back the other way with those players. My guess is it's not as juicy an offer as it sounds given we're only hearing half of it.

 

[squashface]

Trade Radio. Officially irrelevant

Yes

 

[Rowan18]

Freo might have tabled those picks but we haven't heard what they have requested to come back the other way with those players. My guess is it's not as juicy an offer as it sounds given we're only hearing half of it.

Great point. Frankly, if they want to pay 3 R1 for those two, then Richmond is best off accepting them. Realistically, I can't see Feathers ever wanting to overpay for anything.

 

[DanWCE]

Great point. Frankly, if they want to pay 3 R1 for those two, then Richmond is best off accepting them. Realistically, I can't see Feathers ever wanting to overpay for anything.

If the deal was as straightforward as that I reckon Tigers would be on media street saying we have an in principle agreement with Fremantle subject to West Coast matching or exceeding the offer to split Baker out of the deal. It's too good to be true and not the way Freo have operated in the recent past.

Has got the hallmarks of us offering our F1 for Curtin last year despite noone reporting that we had asked for a F2 back.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

We’re going to get screwed

 

[Ghossein]

he thinks a highly publicized trade is progressing

truly incredible stuff

 

[Barrybran]

I might be in the minority, but I would love Parish at the Eagles. Parish and a Future 1st for Pick 3 would definitely help. Parish is definitely the sort of player that would be a perfect fit next to Harley.

I agree that Parish would be perfect for our midfield but he's like Baker in that I wouldn't want to spend any serious capital on him. 3 for 9 + Parish would be much more palatable than 3 for 6/8 + Baker though.

 

[Spod]

Great point. Frankly, if they want to pay 3 R1 for those two, then Richmond is best off accepting them. Realistically, I can't see Feathers ever wanting to overpay for anything.

Sure seems like the real story is that you can't trade players against their will and obviously Baker is much more keen to come to us than Freo. I'm sure Richmond are the main ones pushing the Freo option.

On a related note, Gettable just reported we're focused on getting the Baker deal done first with some other way of getting it done. No specific talk of pick 3 in that.

 

[Bender_]

he thinks a highly publicized trade is progressing

truly incredible stuff

Huge if true

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I like it when Ginbey just takes the game on.

He's getting more confident.

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I think he'll end up in the middle. No idea why we started him there. Should have let Redden go around for another year and started Ginbey off HBF like Young, Dawson, Michalanney etc.

 

[Elite Pete]

Gettable.

Eagles preference was future picks rather than 14 from the Hawk. Want F1 and F2 for TB but Hawks want F3 back which Eagles aint prepared to do atm. Imo clearly didn’t want to hand pick 14 straight over for Baker.

Eagles want to get into the bidding for pick 13 but need to get the TB trade done first and needs to be down soon and Roos closing in on 13.

Hawks F1 + Our F2 would have to go close?

Not sure how the Baker deal happens. Would have to be pick 3 involved if it has nothing to do with the TB trade