List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[THE A5]

They should be suspended from the draft for three years! - ABC listen

There's three days to go in the trade period and although it's been quiet so far, there's a feeling that a lot is going to happen very soon. Which club does Roosy suggest should be suspended from the draft if the trade doesn't go through? How important are the combines and what is the real...

www.abc.net.au

Paul Roos unloads on the Hawks if they cant get it done and also pushes on us keeping him

 

[ep2018]

The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Who says no?

Anyone have Art the Clown's phone number?

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.

It won't.

Hope you feel better now.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.

 

[ep2018]

It won't.

Hope you feel better now.

I hope not. But cant see Carlton trading two picks for just the one (even pick 3) considering they traded out of two drafts for it. And we might be desperate enough to do the deal to get Baker, cant see us walking away from him when our coach and recruiter love him as much as they do. Need another club to help us. Carlton are a last resort.

 

[Jupes]

The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.

 

[amazingjoshy]

At what point do we all just admit he's clearly a troll?

 

[sey666]

Commandments for Matt Clarke this trade period

1. Thou shalt not give overs for Baker
2. Thou shalt desire more first round picks from Hawthorn for Barrass
3. Remember draft day, keep it holy and not trade pick 3 away
4. Thou shalt screw thy neighbour (i. e Fremantle) to put thyself in a better position for a potential Warner trade next year
5. Thou shalt covet more high end draft picks

 

[ep2018]

At what point do we all just admit he's clearly a troll?

Not a troll just have a bad mind and this forum lets me express my feelings anonymously.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

There must be something I'm missing with Owies. 8.7 touches a game, slow for his position, has a brain fart in him from what I've seen. Kicks 1.4 goals a game - decent - but with that midfield and those talls to feed off, you should.

Did they debunk his crazy wage demands? I'm assuming he would come here on decent pay. I'd rather prioritise the development of guys like Dewar and hopefully Champion.

 

[TY24]

Can’t see Hawks finishing much higher than they did this year, maybe even lower.

Lots of okay players having absolute career years, riding a wave of good vibes and the Vic media talking them up every week like they’re the Harlem Globetrotters.

Reckon they’re a good chance to do a Freo and miss finals next year. Their F1 could be worth a bit.

 

[WCErevival]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I don't think this was a mistake by the Hawks. They know the deal is getting done, found out pretty much what we would accept, then traded it forward a year. Means we take slightly less [but it's the same offer, duh] due to the compromised draft next year. And delays our rebuild a further 12 months. This is exactly the kind of tactical edge a sociopath like Mitchell would be all about. And we'll agree to it, because we have been completely outplayed.

It doesn’t matter to Mitchell or the Hawks at all what we do with our side of the deal, or how it benefits us down the line.

They made a good deal with Carlton, getting a first and second for 14 (pushed to 16-18), and if the wheels fall off the Blues they made out like bandits.

They get Barrass in the door in either event and have the upside of a really good Blues pick, or at the very least a free second by waiting a year while playing some fairly young contributors every week.

They didn’t do it to screw us, they did it to get better and banked on still being able to get Barrass done, which they can because they turned a mid/late first into a mid late first and a second.

And if they did it to screw us, a team that will be no threat to them whatsoever in the next few years, at the trade off of boosting Carlton in their window, then the tactical nous is zero.

 

[TY24]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

Because Carlton are like a bad rash that you’ve run out of cream for.

 

[Keys]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

Because people keep repeating it

 

[ronpingwins]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

Callum Twomey tweeted it again. And seemed to imply Owies is in the deal now.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

Because according to Twomey, Carlton are "coming hard" for it



With exactly the same offer that we rejected because they literally don't have anything else to offer

 

[Jupes]

It's really a contest of who blinks first with these trade negotiations.

holding the contracted player and wanting an uncontracted player this should be clarke on wednesday:

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I hope not. But cant see Carlton trading two picks for just the one (even pick 3) considering they traded out of two drafts for it. And we might be desperate enough to do the deal to get Baker, cant see us walking away from him when our coach and recruiter love him as much as they do. Need another club to help us. Carlton are a last resort.

12 & 14 isn't even enough return for 3.
If anything Carlton would have to give us a sweetener for us to even consider it. Not the other way round.
This is just like your other suggestion that Richmond need to give Freo the pick they get from us for Baker as part of a Bolton trade.

 

[Jupes]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

thought they rejected it twice yesterday. maybe i'm losing my grasp of space and time.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

There must be something I'm missing with Owies. 8.7 touches a game, slow for his position, has a brain fart in him from what I've seen. Kicks 1.4 goals a game - decent - but with that midfield and those talls to feed off, you should.

Did they debunk his crazy wage demands? I'm assuming he would come here on decent pay. I'd rather prioritise the development of guys like Dewar and hopefully Champion.

Don’t think anyone wants him for anything other than a token pick or as a DFA.

Kicked 27 and 33 goals in the last two seasons, he’s so clearly an AFL calibre player albeit not a sexy one or one you’d ever want to rely on for anything other than filling a role.

For free, it’s a no brainer given how thin we are at the small forward position. Don’t think it stands in the way of Long or Dewar or Champion either, given where Cripps is at there’s plenty of minutes to go around. Just a good guy to have at our disposal for dirt cheap.

What’s truly odd is why Carlton are seemingly done with him. He’s no world beater but he’s definitely an AFL starter at a very mercurial position to fill.

 

[JackOutback]

The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.

I admire your commitment to the bit.

 

[twce13]

Lol Ralph...

Firstly lever was uncontracted.
They got pick 10 and a F1.
With a 35 going back.

We would be taking two F1 which already hold far less value then a current 10 pick. And give back a F2 which would likely be 19-22 range.

Seems to me like he actually strengthens out stance for 2 X F1s.


Otherwise let's look at other trades... Let's see may who got pick 6. Also uncontracted. That's cool tho, hawks go get us 6 and we have a deal.

Cheers ralphoo

 

[DanWCE]

Didn't we already reject 12 and 14 for 3 this morning? Why is it being talked about again

Because now we're sweetening the deal with a F2