List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted


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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."



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I don't think this was a mistake by the Hawks. They know the deal is getting done, found out pretty much what we would accept, then traded it forward a year. Means we take slightly less [but it's the same offer, duh] due to the compromised draft next year. And delays our rebuild a further 12 months. This is exactly the kind of tactical edge a sociopath like Mitchell would be all about. And we'll agree to it, because we have been completely outplayed.
It also strengthens Carlton, their rival who is also in their premiership window right now.
I dont think that argument holds up
 
Paul Roos unloads on the Hawks if they cant get it done and also pushes on us keeping him
 

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The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.

It won't.

Hope you feel better now. ☺️
 
The F2 we get in the Barrass deal will be forwarded to Carlton with pick 3 for 12 and 14 imo. I hate this club sometimes.
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It won't.

Hope you feel better now. ☺️
I hope not. But cant see Carlton trading two picks for just the one (even pick 3) considering they traded out of two drafts for it. And we might be desperate enough to do the deal to get Baker, cant see us walking away from him when our coach and recruiter love him as much as they do. Need another club to help us. Carlton are a last resort.
 
Commandments for Matt Clarke this trade period

1. Thou shalt not give overs for Baker
2. Thou shalt desire more first round picks from Hawthorn for Barrass
3. Remember draft day, keep it holy and not trade pick 3 away
4. Thou shalt screw thy neighbour (i. e Fremantle) to put thyself in a better position for a potential Warner trade next year
5. Thou shalt covet more high end draft picks
 
There must be something I'm missing with Owies. 8.7 touches a game, slow for his position, has a brain fart in him from what I've seen. Kicks 1.4 goals a game - decent - but with that midfield and those talls to feed off, you should.

Did they debunk his crazy wage demands? I'm assuming he would come here on decent pay. I'd rather prioritise the development of guys like Dewar and hopefully Champion.
 

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Can’t see Hawks finishing much higher than they did this year, maybe even lower.

Lots of okay players having absolute career years, riding a wave of good vibes and the Vic media talking them up every week like they’re the Harlem Globetrotters.

Reckon they’re a good chance to do a Freo and miss finals next year. Their F1 could be worth a bit.
 
I don't think this was a mistake by the Hawks. They know the deal is getting done, found out pretty much what we would accept, then traded it forward a year. Means we take slightly less [but it's the same offer, duh] due to the compromised draft next year. And delays our rebuild a further 12 months. This is exactly the kind of tactical edge a sociopath like Mitchell would be all about. And we'll agree to it, because we have been completely outplayed.
It doesn’t matter to Mitchell or the Hawks at all what we do with our side of the deal, or how it benefits us down the line.

They made a good deal with Carlton, getting a first and second for 14 (pushed to 16-18), and if the wheels fall off the Blues they made out like bandits.

They get Barrass in the door in either event and have the upside of a really good Blues pick, or at the very least a free second by waiting a year while playing some fairly young contributors every week.

They didn’t do it to screw us, they did it to get better and banked on still being able to get Barrass done, which they can because they turned a mid/late first into a mid late first and a second.

And if they did it to screw us, a team that will be no threat to them whatsoever in the next few years, at the trade off of boosting Carlton in their window, then the tactical nous is zero.
 
I hope not. But cant see Carlton trading two picks for just the one (even pick 3) considering they traded out of two drafts for it. And we might be desperate enough to do the deal to get Baker, cant see us walking away from him when our coach and recruiter love him as much as they do. Need another club to help us. Carlton are a last resort.
12 & 14 isn't even enough return for 3.
If anything Carlton would have to give us a sweetener for us to even consider it. Not the other way round.
This is just like your other suggestion that Richmond need to give Freo the pick they get from us for Baker as part of a Bolton trade. 😂
 
There must be something I'm missing with Owies. 8.7 touches a game, slow for his position, has a brain fart in him from what I've seen. Kicks 1.4 goals a game - decent - but with that midfield and those talls to feed off, you should.

Did they debunk his crazy wage demands? I'm assuming he would come here on decent pay. I'd rather prioritise the development of guys like Dewar and hopefully Champion.
Don’t think anyone wants him for anything other than a token pick or as a DFA.

Kicked 27 and 33 goals in the last two seasons, he’s so clearly an AFL calibre player albeit not a sexy one or one you’d ever want to rely on for anything other than filling a role.

For free, it’s a no brainer given how thin we are at the small forward position. Don’t think it stands in the way of Long or Dewar or Champion either, given where Cripps is at there’s plenty of minutes to go around. Just a good guy to have at our disposal for dirt cheap.

What’s truly odd is why Carlton are seemingly done with him. He’s no world beater but he’s definitely an AFL starter at a very mercurial position to fill.
 

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