List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Done deals:

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
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  Jamaine Jones

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  26

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  180cm

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  80kg

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  9.0

  2star

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  4.8

  2star

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  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

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  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

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  M

  2.5

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  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

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  D

  9.0

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  4.2

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  HB

  4.8

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  2.4

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  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

The only thing i agree with from people defending this is that we were not going to get Baker via PSD. Given Freo were putting up a first rounder for him i imagine he would have taken the certainty of the Freo offer over PSD. But i am OK with that. We don't need Baker. He won't make any difference.

if it was a 27 year old ruckman who could hold his own and hold down the position for 5 years then i could live with them off loading some reasonably significant draft capital for that on the grounds that it is hard to develop a young midfield when you are getting belted in the ruck every week. But i am not cool with the trading out draft capital for a 27 year old utility.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

God help Pyke if one of the top 3 draftees has a Harry Sheezel like first year and we have Baker plodding along picking up 15 - 20 touches a game but having absolutely no impact on games a bit like Chesser (which is what i am expecting).

Chesser played 18 matches this year and reached 15 touches in 2 of them.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Yep that’s what they are all saying, because we have traded down from 3 to 12 the sky has fallen in, the sun won’t rise and we are forever doomed.
I’ve never read so much shit in all my life!

Yep let's add another speculative pick15 to duggan venables brander chesser and Hewett instead of a almost certainty at pick 3

So good at picking in that range . Such a sweet spot

 

[DanWCE]

Nice try to spin it that way from the club and media but in reality we have enough draft capital next year already .

Pick 3 for 12 + 14 was just a massive stuff up

Unless we plan on giving the swans 4x first rounders for warner which is possible now I think of it

Our first next year will make up the bulk of the deal. I wish I could posture this further by saying Chad will be OOC and keen to move home to WA, but as we've seen we are quite happy to pay up even when those things are in our favour

 

[sey666]

Just watch us panic as the deadline nears and trade Barrass to Hawthorn for 33 and a F2 or some S*** like that

 

[ziad]

You don’t reckon? Well I think they are.

Comfortably - we carried many passengers every game this season.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I wonder if the club are on the phone to their chief bootlicker in the media Ryan Daniels asking him to help them sell this to the public by hailing it as the deal of the century and telling us how great it is.

 

[swingdog]

 

[Elite Pete]

I wonder if the club are on the phone to their chief bootlicker in the media Ryan Daniels asking him to help them sell this to the public by hailing it as the deal of the century and telling us how great it is.

Will Schofield is trying to do that and get his mates deal over the line

 

[rebel23]

Pyke saying PSD is not how we do business...

Mate... It's literally a legal avenue to use in trade negotiations with out of contract players.

It's so you don't do things to the detriment of your CLUB!!

In the end Richmond would have caved for a 2nd rounder as Baker IS OUT OF CONTRACT.

Pretty much every club is probably looking at us like we're soft...or possibly ******ed

MEGA

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Like **** I was ok with poor trading and drafting when we had shit picks because we were successful. But now we're shit and we're HANDING OUR GOOD PICKS OVER FOR 27 YEAR OLDS.

In no ****ing universe does this make sense.

I was okay with Liam Baker, but why do we need another 27 year old in Owies. B
Apart from the other small forwards already in the team, both Baker & Graham can play forward as well. Even TK is an option.
I would've liked us to have enquired about Moir instead.

 

[DanWCE]

Curious from Schoey, I thought the asking price for TB was 2 x R1 and a R2... He's softened his stance dramatically

 

[garlic munchers]

We are just marking the 25th anniversary of this trade period..........

Michael Collica Hawthorn West Coast Eagles draft pick #21
Greg Harding Fremantle West Coast Eagles Daniel Metropolis, draft pick #51
Mark Merenda Richmond West Coast Eagles draft pick #57
Michael Prior Essendon West Coast Eagles draft pick #27
David Sierakowski St Kilda West Coast Eagles Fraser Gehrig
Richard Taylor Hawthorn West Coast Eagles draft pick #21

Actually, these look pretty effing good compared to 2024.

 

[TerryFilk]

All because we used pick 14 on Baker?

Instead of pick 3 on FOS or Draper?

The entire future of the club rests on one draft pick?

Really?

Because we have a list manager who just rejected an offer of pick 14 for Barrass which would’ve gone for Baker

Only to end up still acquiring pick 14 in a different deal, sending it for Baker and losing 3 in the process

We just committed the worse trade in our clubs history and we still gave away the steak knives

Two weeks ago, Pyke said we’d prioritise the draft and won’t be giving the farm away for players, it took him two weeks to go back on that.

There’s no way to spin this deal as a positive.

We lost 18 games this season and our draft hand is 12,26 and 72

We’ve had three years of conseucitve top 3 picks and split in 2 of those 3 years.

This isn’t the way you build a list for sustained success, Pyke is looking for a short term sugar hit.

 

[Art OF war]

We know why the narrative that Hawks pick 14 wasn’t on the table appeared recently. Once WC realised what needed to happen to get Baker, the story magically appeared out of thin air, despite Twomey reporting it all last week.

So instead of receiving 14 and an f2 for Barrass, WC actually traded 3 for 12 and 14.

And to top it all off, WC is likely to receive a F1 + F2 in a heavily comprised draft from a contender that is every chance to improve. What’s more, Hawks have improved THEIR draft hand by gaining an F2. If WC don’t get 2 f1’s from Hawks, they have truly got one over WC and it’s truly a turd sandwich without the bread

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Will Schofield is trying to do that and get his mates deal over the line

We need to push hard for the 2 F1's.
I can't see Hawthorn backing out of taking TB after committing to him. I think they will eventually agree, they have no other option if they still want him (just like us with Baker).
I think if we can 2 F1's instead of an F1 & F2, it will make this trade period somewhat more successful.

 

[Chris_6678]

Do Hawks even have 2 F1's though?

 

[DJMac]

Tongue in cheek a bit there mate.

Still venting.

 

[ronpingwins]

Hi ronpingwins,

Thank you for taking the time to email us with your thoughts.



We hear your concern around the recent trade of Pick 3 for Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

, Matt Owies, and Pick 12. However, we trust the decision that our list management team have made, and we hope you’ll continue to stick by us as we navigate these changes. Feel free to check out the interview with Don Pyke explaining the decision HERE



Your feedback is invaluable, and we appreciate your ongoing support



All the best,

Ella

 

[ronpingwins]

Do Hawks even have 2 F1's though?

Yes. Their own and Carltons

 

[pantskyle]

Do Hawks even have 2 F1's though?

Yes.

 

[30stm3891]

WC new recruiters....useless kents

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

With pick 12 I'm worried it's outside the zone I really rate and gets into the pretty good zone. Phil mentioned still in the zone for players we want, I'm a tad dubious of that.

From early post I'm removing Trainor as I think he's still on the board and I wouldn't take him at 12. In no particular order, I'd want one of the following list;

1. Jagga
2. Draper
3. Reid
4. Fos
5. Smillie
6. Reid
7. Travaglia
8. Allen
9. Langford
10. Lalor

Tauru I really like and happy with him at 12, but think he's gone too. I'd take the above list just ahead of him.

So who does that put at 12;

Hotton, easily the best option but flight risk.
Berry, very sound option here but do we now have too many that play similarly to him.
Lindsay, ideally for me I'd like a better more reliable kick for an outside mid.
Hynes, I see heaps of upside as he's got the powerful core and great skills.
Armstrong and Shanahan but are both a low need for us. Hopefully they got before our pick so someone slides.

I'm also really worried we've lost the points to match Champion.

 

[garlic munchers]

GWS Giants trade picks with Brisbane, receive Pick 2

Giants slide up draft order in pick swap

www.foxsports.com.au

WC list managers read this and roll around laughing at someone who thinks trading is about both wanting to “add talent to our list and build a team that can win our next premiership” .

 

[MaxHunt]

Not sure how selling the farm for Warner next year solves the issues. The cupboard in the middle in bare. Club needs mids, lot's of them and good quality ones.