List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Goroyals22]

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Wonder if he’s agreed to sign on a dfa with someone

Moora might be a chance.


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[Obeanie1]

I'm not talking about contending this year or next, I'm talking about building a contending list.
And at the moment there's a fair bit of work to get us there.

So we are in agreement then.

So you see no areas of improvement we are working on in our forward half?

No green shoots?

No plan?

 

[Godfather32]

So we are in agreement then.

So you see no areas of improvement we are working on in our forward half?

No green shoots?

No plan?

Don't think I've said or even thought any of that.
But I will say again what I do think, we don't have enough high end talent on our list to contend

 

[Cuzz09]

just use 26 on Champion

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[Godfather32]

just use 26 on Champion

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Err no

 

[Cuzz09]

Err no

Oh well someone else will prob take him

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[Godfather32]

Oh well someone else will prob take him

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Maybe, it depends how high they bid on him, seeing as we can match their bid if we choose to

 

[Obeanie1]

Don't think I've said or even thought any of that.
But I will say again what I do think, we don't have enough high end talent on our list to contend

Not what was being discussed. We were discussing the forward line and then taking 10 years to contend again.

It doesnt take 10 years to find high end talent. Harley is one. Allen and Waterman arent far off. A contender needs 4 or 5.

I agree with the above 100%. We need to unearth a couple more guns. Or trade them in.

 

[Grahame]

Leaves Luke Edwards as the only other delisting I expect.

Didn’t someone say the club was waiting on some concussion decision or protocol from the AFL regarding LEd? Sounded like he’d be gone once that was sorted.

 

[Keys]

With Rotham seemingly moving on, we now have 6 spots to fill - 5 on the main list and one rookie spot.

Another main list spot may open up if/when Luke Edwards is delisted/medically retired. Possibility that he is carried into next season on the rookie list if a medical decision isn’t made prior to cutoffs for list lodgements. If that happens we would have 6 main list spots available

Think we take 3 draft picks plus Champion

Sign a DFA prior to the draft

And leave one spot for a SSP/train on player

Edwards to be retained as a rookie if he’s cleared or be replaced via SSP or MSD depending on when a decision comes

 

[Biggie]

 

[Godfather32]

Not what was being discussed. We were discussing the forward line and then taking 10 years to contend again.

It doesnt take 10 years to find high end talent. Harley is one. Allen and Waterman arent far off. A contender needs 4 or 5.

I agree with the above 100%. We need to unearth a couple more guns. Or trade them in.

Sure mate, whatever. It was a flow on from your raise the floor comment, you realise that's how discussions work right? Bit of back and forth, new points are raised and the conversation moves on.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Oh well someone else will prob take him

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Depending where the bid comes (if at all) we can quite easily get the points we need using our future picks should we want to

Not sure this one's worth stressing over

 

[Grahame]

Without reading hundreds of pages - where is Winder at? Obviously, we should know more about him than 16 clubs at least.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Interesting for Rotham to announce his own delisting.

 

[Keys]

Without reading hundreds of pages - where is Winder at? Obviously, we should know more about him than 16 clubs at least.

His name has popped up a few times

I thought we could do worse than to sign him as a DFA and several other posters shared that same view

 

[kane249]

With Rotham seemingly moving on, we now have 6 spots to fill - 5 on the main list and one rookie spot.

Another main list spot may open up if/when Luke Edwards is delisted/medically retired. Possibility that he is carried into next season on the rookie list if a medical decision isn’t made prior to cutoffs for list lodgements. If that happens we would have 6 main list spots available

Think we take 3 draft picks plus Champion

Sign a DFA prior to the draft

And leave one spot for a SSP/train on player

Edwards to be retained as a rookie if he’s cleared or be replaced via SSP or MSD depending on when a decision comes

Moving Maric, Dewar or Hutchinson to the main list from the rookie could also be a play?

 

[Wce17]

Hope people who were complaining we hadn’t cut deep enough are now happy. Couldn’t have really cut any deeper.

Sheed is the only other one I thought might be a chance but with the SSP system & Midseason draft it’s easy to replace him later if his foot/ankle doesn’t come good & delist him next year.

It also helps explain why we wanted Baker & Graham. We have lost a lot of experience at the top end & in that 23 - 27 year range.

 

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Went on North’s board a year or so ago and seen people mentioning this too.

Wtf is going on with all these emojis?

 

[Cuzz09]

Depending where the bid comes (if at all) we can quite easily get the points we need using our future picks should we want to

Not sure this one's worth stressing over

 

[BartBart]

Isn't there also talk thst Sheed's ankle might result him retiring after the point that the 2024 salary cap period ends?

 

[Keys]

Moving Maric, Dewar or Hutchinson to the main list from the rookie could also be a play?

Dewar is a Cat B rookie so he stays there unless in the unlikely event there’s no bid on Champion and we are then able to prelist him as a Cat B.

That would require Dewar being moved to the rookie or main list

There’s no imperative to move guys onto the main list as from a playing POV there’s no difference

Rookie list wages also sit outside the salary cap other than match payments

The last 2 or 3 seasons we’ve run with 5 rookies so I don’t think we promote anyone onto the main list unless we have to

 

[Mop]

So Rothams been cut.
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You can un-delete your account now.

 

[King Huskii]

I posted in that thread applying the same list to the 2001 draft which every AFL watcher acknowledges was a superdraft.

Result is similar enough.

That sux

 

[Keys]

Depending where the bid comes (if at all) we can quite easily get the points we need using our future picks should we want to

Not sure this one's worth stressing over

Posted it before but our current picks (73 and 81) will come in around 8-10 spots due to bid matching earlier which will give us enough points to cover a bid from ~45 onwards

I haven’t read or seen many lists that have him ranked that high