List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[mat11]

Westcoast list would look significantly better if hewett, Oscar and flynn do the Qatar trip or whatever it is to Dubai that yeo/Edwards took last year

 

[random260]

I prefer

Pick 13 + F1 for TB + F2

Over:

Pick 13 + Pick 30 for TB

Pick 13 + F2 for TB

 

[stallon]

What if we ended up with Tunstill, Dev and Prior as our 3 mature age recruits, how good would that be

 

[chaddy22]

The last minute larger deal for Hawks to up their offer was the clinger IMO.

Don't you mean clincher?

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

You’re almost certainly right, hopefully via 3R pick matches.

I'm confident that Champion gets past 40, personally I'd 100% match past there.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

I'd have a crack at 6 GC and 8 Ess, if we missed that I'd just keep 13 and the Hawks f1

Ideally
3- fos/langford/draper
6- lalor/travaglia

Happy with
3- fos/langford/draper
13- Lindsay/berry

Either way we will do very well

Reckon Bombers use 8, as will come before Kako bid.

 

[chaddy22]

Tunstill (mid-forward) and Prior (defence) putting on a marking clinic in the VFL prelim final and pretty wet and windy conditions.

Are you trying to drive up Tunstills price. Whenever i look at the Lions Vfl chat room they seem very negative about him.

 

[eaglevision]

I'm confident that Champion gets past 40, personally I'd 100% match past there.

Agreed. If we can get that pick 40 for darling and salary and pinch another player before Champion it would be a great result. Only takes one club to rate him 10 picks before everyone else or to be a prick though.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Maybe Dev stayed for a VFL flag?

I’m sure it takes less to get accredited with a tackle in state league compared to AFL but 20d 11t at 3QT.

Should’ve slotted a goal from 15m out on the snap. Didn’t get any part of it and got marked in the square. We wouldn’t be bringing him in for his foot skills though.

Perfect sweeper for us.

Commentators pretty much saying they wonder if he will seek a trade and Eagles keen last year ect

Well said, he'd be the sweeper midfielder.
His kicking is quite awkward and poor but has very strong contested game. Use him to be dishing ball out to Harley, Hewitt.

 

[Aarick13]

I think TB + F2 for 13 + F1 is probably about right. If we can get it with out F3 then that's great. I think the Hawks will finish in the 3-6 range again which puts their pick at 13-16. If we finish in the bottom 2 with 5 wins or less then there is a high chance we will get some sort of assistance package similar to the Kangaroos 2 start of second round picks. If we don't then we have a higher pick anyway.

The salary cap is also going up by $2 million. This means there will possibly be 4-8 band 2 free agent compensation picks. Swapping our second rounder for the Hawks first might end up being an upgrade of 10+ picks.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

If you want a key defender James Barrat would be a far better option from Bendigo. He is a better contested mark and defender than Shanahan. Shanahan has better foot skills and is more dynamic, however.

I really like barrat for where I think he’d be available in the draft

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Tunstill (mid-forward) and Prior (defence) putting on a marking clinic in the VFL prelim final and pretty wet and windy conditions.

Would slot tunstill straight onto the wing next year. Any idea what price would be?

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Phantom draft for the first round assuming we get 13 as part of a Barrass trade and keep our picks. I suspect we’ll be choosing between FOS, Draper and Jagga at 3 and take whoever is left out of Travaglia, Lindsay and Berry at 13. I expect us to take the best KPD available at 23 assuming we don’t trade it for a 173cm imp with the leadership qualities.

Richmond are likely to have enough points for GCS pick 12 and Brisbane 1R assuming they don’t trade into next year, especially if they get band 3 compo for Graham.

1. RICH-Smith
2. NM-Langford
3. WCE-O’Sullivan
4. ADEL-Draper
5. MELB-Armstrong
6. RICH-Lalor via GCS for Rioli
7. STK-MReid
8. STK-Smillie via FA for Battle
9. ESS-Shanahan
10. RICH-Trainor via FREO for Bolton
11. RICH-JWhitlock via FREO via COLL Bolton
12. CARL-Berry
13. RICH-Lindsay via GCS via WB for points
14. WCE-Travaglia via HAW for Barrass
15. RICH-Hotton via BL points
16. GWS-Allan
17. RICH-MWhitlock via FREO via PA
18. WBD-Moraes via GEEL for Smith
19. SYD-Gross
20. SYD-Tauru
21. COLL-Faull via GCS for Noble
22. GWS-Hynes via FA for Perryman

Where does our next pick fall? 2 or 3 after your last there?

Doubt GWS get compo that good for Haynes, I know he's on good coin but he's 32.
Battle one also interesting.

Personally I'd swap FOS for Draper, not sure Travaglia will last too us. Hopefully he does.

 

[JackOutback]

I think TB + F2 for 13 + F1 is probably about right. If we can get it with out F3 then that's great. I think the Hawks will finish in the 3-6 range again which puts their pick at 13-16. If we finish in the bottom 2 with 5 wins or less then there is a high chance we will get some sort of assistance package similar to the Kangaroos 2 start of second round picks. If we don't then we have a higher pick anyway.

The salary cap is also going up by $2 million. This means there will possibly be 4-8 band 2 free agent compensation picks. Swapping our second rounder for the Hawks first might end up being an upgrade of 10+ picks.

When everyone was saying we’d finish bottom this year, I was adamant we wouldn’t. Now people are saying we’ll be bottom two next year despite finishing 16th with five wins this year? Gonna go early again and say won’t happen, don’t think we’ll be bottom three either. Richmond and North to finish bottom two, the wheels to fall off at least one other club.

 

[ziad]

When everyone was saying we’d finish bottom this year, I was adamant we wouldn’t. Now people are saying we’ll be bottom two next year despite finishing 16th with five wins this year? Gonna go early again and say won’t happen, don’t think we’ll be bottom three either. Richmond and North to finish bottom two, the wheels to fall off at least one other club.

I feel positive about out trade/draft approach this year (results pending of course). Ports list is interesting - some cream drafted but most of the list is cobbled together with drafted role players.

 

[eaglevision]

Where does our next pick fall? 2 or 3 after your last there?

Doubt GWS get compo that good for Haynes, I know he's on good coin but he's 32.
Battle one also interesting.

Personally I'd swap FOS for Draper, not sure Travaglia will last too us. Hopefully he does.

GWS pick Cooper Hynes (not Nick Haynes compo!) with Perryman band 2 compo. Assuming no other compo the next three picks go 23- Richmond, 24- North then 25- WCE. I expect Dodson, Oliver, Sims and O’Farrell to be in the discussion for those picks. Maybe also a bolter like Davis, Dattoli or Hannaford.

You’re probably right about Travaglia, Saints are very keen on him but I think it will be him or Lindsay, can’t see Carlton passing on Berry.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I really like barrat for where I think he’d be available in the draft

He may go late 2nd, but more likely in the third round now.

 

[ArdentEagle]

GWS pick Cooper Hynes (not Nick Haynes compo!) with Perryman band 2 compo. Assuming no other compo the next three picks go 23- Richmond, 24- North then 25- WCE. I expect Dodson, Oliver, Sims and O’Farrell to be in the discussion for those picks. Maybe also a bolter like Davis, Dattoli or Hannaford.

You’re probably right about Travaglia, Saints are very keen on him but I think it will be him or Lindsay, can’t see Carlton passing on Berry.

Hasn't Perryman come out and said he wants to stay? If he's not coming to us, next best result is him staying at GWS.
No compo pick. (Haynes won't get much. Greet player though. Really like him)

I quite like the look of Dodson from what I can find in the videos.
He looks to have very clean ands for a big guy, very few fumbles, even with ground balls, good vision by hand too and a frame that could get thick.

 

[eaglevision]

Hasn't Perryman come out and said he wants to stay? If he's not coming to us, next best result is him staying at GWS.
No compo pick. (Haynes won't get much. Greet player though. Really like him)

I quite like the look of Dodson from what I can find in the videos.
He looks to have very clean ands for a big guy, very few fumbles, even with ground balls, good vision by hand too and a frame that could get thick.

I suspect you’re thinking of Peatling. I think most expect Perryman to leave although not out of the question for him to stay but I reckon he would have announced if he was staying and is instead waiting for the season to finish before announcing his club.

Dodson is the best ruck in the draft but also gives me some Barnett vibes, although he didn’t play AFL last year and has still put himself into late 1R discussions. Huge upside but low floor too.

 

[RanaNaved]

Turnstill looks a state level player. When the tempo lifted he was noticeably a step or two behind with decision making and in attempting disposals, got wrapped up a lot like Jako Nelson. How'd he go in AFL game? We should steer clear of that sort of player

 

[RanaNaved]

Are you trying to drive up Tunstills price. Whenever i look at the Lions Vfl chat room they seem very negative about him.

Yeah he took one good mark

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Boyd woodcock wins it for Southport into the VFL granny. 33d 12 clearances

Riley Garcia was good.
25d 5T 8Cl



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[Aarick13]

When everyone was saying we’d finish bottom this year, I was adamant we wouldn’t. Now people are saying we’ll be bottom two next year despite finishing 16th with five wins this year? Gonna go early again and say won’t happen, don’t think we’ll be bottom three either. Richmond and North to finish bottom two, the wheels to fall off at least one other club.

Don't get my wrong I wasn't implying we will finish bottom 2. I was just saying that if we were to finish in the bottom 2 we will probably get some sort of assistance which will push our F2 back. If we finish 14th it would be pick 23 before being pushed back from FA compo which could be a 10 pick upgrade before any compo.

 

[TOA.]

Would Nth and Sydney trade Parker for a swap of F2nds (comprised draft so it will be 30 down to 50….)

Then we do Darling for Sydney’s F2, and send that with TB for 13 + F1

We keep our draft hand intact, add a F1, and lose TB and Darling.

Sydney may want more, but similarly to Darling, even though 15-20 senior games next year is more likely than not at Nth, they are nearing the end so limited value.


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We wont get a R2 pick for Darling. It will be for a throw away pick in the 60s or even less. We want him gone as much the Roos want him and they know it. Its basically a salary dump for us.

 

[Rowan18]

We wont get a R2 pick for Darling. It will be for a throw away pick in the 60s or even less. We want him gone as much the Roos want him and they know it. Its basically a salary dump for us.

I don't understand why we would trade Darling for a junk pick and pay his salary. We're going to be struggling to hit the 95% minimum payment against the cap as is. Gaff is gone and clears $1M, TB is gone and clears $600-800k, who is taking all this money? Waterman's contract is getting bumped but who else?

Why not keep him? Darling is handy forwardline depth, as without him our KPF depth is J Williams or A Reid.

The only reason I see him being traded is if we did bring in a big name player on big money (which I am sceptical about) or to be good to him and help him play two more years.