List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Dark Sharks]

I've got absolutely zero issue with Darlings Vax stance, it's entirely his choice ffs.

People who still do need to grow up.

 

[southcoast]

AFL will make it so it’s rd2. H Reid against a team that didn’t want him and j darling, against a team that didn’t want him and playing with ldu, wishing current team didn’t want him.

Marketers dream right there.

Nekminnit - Darling managed. Out for a week. Didn’t want to travel, too old.


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[Peptide Pig]

Has there ever in the history of the earth been someone called Hutchingson

Better check notes again
Jermaine is his name

And so it begins… I’ve seen it a couple of times already so am going early that ‘Draiper’ will be the ‘Curtain’ and ‘Hewitt’ of this years trade period. God save us all

 

[Balls In]

Completely missed the fact Darling edged ahead of Suma for goals kicked.

2nd for games played and 2nd for goals kicked. All-Australian and Premiership player.

Club legend.

Not to mention did it playing a secondary role for Kennedy. People vastly underrate his workrate and defence as well, he and Kennedy were manic in there with their tackling and pressure.

 

[eaglevision]

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So far this year i have heard we should delist Darling, Sheed, Jamieson a year before their contract runs out.
Clubs have to make 3 list changes per year. So you sometimes need to offer a player a year contract to be the sacrificial lamb the following year. I also doubt we delist players unless we have viable replacements either good picks or trades. I expect If Rotham being a UFA is picked up by another club than Witherden may survive depending on how many spots we need to use in the draft.

Don’t see how we’re keeping uncontracted blokes for a year to be sacrificial lambs, particularly in this draft.l when there will be so many good 1 year rookie options available.

Next year Cripps, Sheed and Jamo surely go. Petch, Chesser and possibly Gov (his call) might go. Culley, Rawlinson and Burgiel would need a good year to stay on if they get the opportunity. Hunt, Cole and Bazzo aren’t safe and if Brockman has another year like this one he might be given the ZLangdon treatment.

 

[pantskyle]

I've got absolutely zero issue with Darlings Vax stance, it's entirely his choice ffs.

People who still do need to grow up.

As long as we can marry our cousins who cares now, covid was so 4 years ago. Bring on monkey pox baby.

 

[Cuzz09]

Did he end up getting vaxxed?

Maybe not getting it has extended his career?

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[Ambrose Burnside]

Did he end up getting vaxxed?

Maybe not getting it has extended his career?

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Pretty sure he did, he wouldn't have been able to play otherwise.

 

[Goomba1973]

Going more off Twomey's phantom, something like this appears to be where things are at:

#1 RICH - Smith
#2 BRIS - Match bid for Ashcroft
#3 NM - Langford
#4 WCE - Draper
#5 ADE - FOS
#6 MELB - M. Reid
#7 GC - Smillie
#8 STK - Lalor
#9 ESS - Tauru
#10 FREO - Allan
#11 COLL - Armstrong
#12 CARL - Travaglia
#13 WB - Trainor
#14 GC - Match bid on Lombard
#15 WC - Berry? Hotton? Lindsay? Hynes? Dodson?

Personally really hoping someone like Travaglia gets through but thanks to stupid Hawthorn and their stupid run their pick is likely to see us selecting from the next bracket of players. Honestly don't know who to take in that range! Berry would make sense but we will be adding Champion later in the draft, too. Lindsay a safe bet. Hynes for x-factor... If this is how it pans out, it will be very intriguing to see who we go with.

I'd be surprised to see North take another mid / mid forward. They need talls and defenders and that seems more likely. I think they will split their pick 2 and move down to target the likes of Trainor and Travaglia

 

[garlic munchers]

Darling has always been one of our more underrated players

Bloke played 298 games and kicked 515 goals, that's hall of fame stuff

Eagles Hall of Famer, not AFL.

Nevertheless has been a fantastic contributor to the WCE and had the added bonus of triggering plenty of Freo fans.

Plus his ability to recover from fatal injuries on a footy field within minutes, was/is a medical miracle.

Maybe he was worried that the Vac would take away this power, you know like, Samson's hair?

 

[lloydbraun]

Idiots. This is how we got into the mess keeping Simpson an extra year.
Carlton, who aren't even a particularly good team, are moving on Kennedy, Jack Martin and Owies who are all AFL quality players, and these noobs are up in arms about delisting - checks notes - Jordan 'Turnover' Jones

 

[wirra44]

That was a weird time. Glad he took a stance.

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But he didn’t tho, he sooked it up gave the club nothing, blamed the club, and then ended up getting it, it was all very confusing, like I had no problem with him not getting it but don’t make a big song and dance about it for weeks and then end up getting it, least Liam Jones took an actual stand and sat out for the year.

 

[mattyc75]

But he didn’t tho, he sooked it up gave the club nothing, blamed the club, and then ended up getting it, it was all very confusing, like I had no problem with him not getting it but don’t make a big song and dance about it for weeks and then end up getting it, least Liam Jones took an actual stand and sat out for the year.

He did what he could under the circumstances, I think it was addressed by posters above.

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[wce4premiership]

Has there ever in the history of the earth been someone called Hutchingson

Son of Mark Hutchings and future father son draft pick Hutchingson Hutchings.

 

[Hoskin300]

Interestingly Cooper Stephen’s who Geelong took with one of our Tim Kelly draft picks and who was then traded to hawthorn has been delisted after playing 7 games for Geelong and none for the hawks


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Its nearly like you are a very low chance of drafting high quality mids at the picks we gave for kelly

 

[Hoskin300]

JD's second season was legendary.

For a 191cm undersized KPF to do that, it was something special.

Its ridiculous how many more athletic he used to be. Moving with decent pace and kicking bombs from 60m.

Another one of our senior players that has completely fallen apart with age due to our completely incompetent S+C.

 

[Hoskin300]

Darling has always been one of our more underrated players

Bloke played 298 games and kicked 515 goals, that's hall of fame stuff

All as a second target with a mostly inept midfield for his career.

 

[Tugga27]

Eagles Hall of Famer, not AFL.

Nevertheless has been a fantastic contributor to the WCE and had the added bonus of triggering plenty of Freo fans.

Plus his ability to recover from fatal injuries on a footy field within minutes, was/is a medical miracle.

Maybe he was worried that the Vac would take away this power, you know like, Samson's hair?

300 games plus and over 500 goals.

Based on other inductees, he's walking into the AFL Hall of Fame.

 

[chaddy22]

Don’t see how we’re keeping uncontracted blokes for a year to be sacrificial lambs, particularly in this draft.l when there will be so many good 1 year rookie options available.

Next year Cripps, Sheed and Jamo surely go. Petch, Chesser and possibly Gov (his call) might go. Culley, Rawlinson and Burgiel would need a good year to stay on if they get the opportunity. Hunt, Cole and Bazzo aren’t safe and if Brockman has another year like this one he might be given the ZLangdon treatment.

At the moment we have 3,23,59 plus maybe two picks for Barrass 13 and? plus 64 for darling (hopefully 40).
that is six picks with one being used for Baker. and a spot for Graham as a ufa if he decides to come.
At the moment we have delisted Jones and Gaff retired. Barrass and Darling requesting a trade which makes four spots available.

Currently we have four players on our main list who are uncontracted. If we don't get Baker and Graham or any other ufa thru the door i can see one of these four maybe getting a one year extension.

• Josh Rotham (25/2/98) - Signed a 3 year extension (2022-24) in September 2021
• Luke Edwards (12/1/02) - Signed a 2 year extension (2023-24) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021
• Coby Burgiel (9/9/04) - Automatic 2 year contract (2023-24) when drafted in November 2022
• (R) Jai Culley (24/2/03) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023
• Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023

 

[new breed]

Hope Darling does well at North Melbourne.

 

[Elite Pete]

At the moment we have 3,23,59 plus maybe two picks for Barrass 13 and? plus 64 for darling (hopefully 40).
that is six picks with one being used for Baker. and a spot for Graham as a ufa if he decides to come.
At the moment we have delisted Jones and Gaff retired. Barrass and Darling requesting a trade which makes four spots available.

Currently we have four players on our main list who are uncontracted. If we don't get Baker and Graham or any other ufa thru the door i can see one of these four maybe getting a one year extension.

• Josh Rotham (25/2/98) - Signed a 3 year extension (2022-24) in September 2021
• Luke Edwards (12/1/02) - Signed a 2 year extension (2023-24) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021
• Coby Burgiel (9/9/04) - Automatic 2 year contract (2023-24) when drafted in November 2022
• (R) Jai Culley (24/2/03) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023
• Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023

Burgiel would be the only one I consider signing for 1 year deal. Send him straight to Qatar or where ever the players go

 

[FKASC]

Burgiel would be the only one I consider signing for 1 year deal. Send him straight to Qatar or where ever the players go

Needs a different environment imo. Seems to be sooking it up at the Beagles

 

[Goomba1973]

What about a split of pick 13 down for 3 picks in the 20s/30s?
If we got the Hawks F1 id rather split that but pick 13 could be used.

Going into the draft with 4 picks between 20 and 40(before champion bid) could cover every list hole we have to some extent, and as has been said many times this may be the year to do it.

Get a KPD, ruck, half back and a winger or something, along with Draper/FOS/whoever with pick 3 and Champion. 6 picks for 6 players who all play different roles in a deep draft mightn't be a bad haul

I'm not sold on Champion. He has moments but he lacks any consistency and is way to light framed to cause any forward pressure issues for opponents at AFL level. He won't get that much bigger. I'd rather we use our late pick on Jaxon Artemis.

 

[Goomba1973]

In no world is bolton worth 9 and 10, wtf are you guys on?
Also I’d want to hope freo have a pick before 13 and pick Allan before we do given his Peel connection. I like him, but very similar to Ruebs and not what we need rn. We need a Tauru/Trainor/Travaglia to get through to phase out spuds like rotham, (replace) TB, Witherden, JJ, Cole too to a lesser extent.

Agreed, he is Ginbey 2.0..... We don't need another one

 

[Big_Birdy]

I've got absolutely zero issue with Darlings Vax stance, it's entirely his choice ffs.

People who still do need to grow up.

Considering the AFL came to be in agreeance with Jack, people having a crack at him for what happened is a bit odd.