List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[eaglevision]

At the moment we have 3,23,59 plus maybe two picks for Barrass 13 and? plus 64 for darling (hopefully 40).
that is six picks with one being used for Baker. and a spot for Graham as a ufa if he decides to come.
At the moment we have delisted Jones and Gaff retired. Barrass and Darling requesting a trade which makes four spots available.

Currently we have four players on our main list who are uncontracted. If we don't get Baker and Graham or any other ufa thru the door i can see one of these four maybe getting a one year extension.

• Josh Rotham (25/2/98) - Signed a 3 year extension (2022-24) in September 2021
• Luke Edwards (12/1/02) - Signed a 2 year extension (2023-24) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021
• Coby Burgiel (9/9/04) - Automatic 2 year contract (2023-24) when drafted in November 2022
• (R) Jai Culley (24/2/03) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023
• Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023

I’d be very happy with a year for WAFL leading goal kicker Burgiel and ok with a 12 month extension for Culley depending on our rookie draft plans.

The rest need to go.

 

[Ghossein]

so are we actually offering Culley a 1 year deal? Why would that not be tied up by now?

 

[Cuzz09]

I hope he makes it but Culley doesn't really have anything great to make it in today's AFL.

Gets decent numbers in WAFL but it's a huge drop off in pace/pressure

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[Ghossein]

At the moment we have 3,23,59 plus maybe two picks for Barrass 13 and? plus 64 for darling (hopefully 40).
that is six picks with one being used for Baker. and a spot for Graham as a ufa if he decides to come.
At the moment we have delisted Jones and Gaff retired. Barrass and Darling requesting a trade which makes four spots available.

Currently we have four players on our main list who are uncontracted. If we don't get Baker and Graham or any other ufa thru the door i can see one of these four maybe getting a one year extension.

• Josh Rotham (25/2/98) - Signed a 3 year extension (2022-24) in September 2021
• Luke Edwards (12/1/02) - Signed a 2 year extension (2023-24) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021
• Coby Burgiel (9/9/04) - Automatic 2 year contract (2023-24) when drafted in November 2022
• (R) Jai Culley (24/2/03) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023
• Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2024) in October 2023

I want them all gone, am okay with Culley on a 1 year deal.

But I know a lot of posters think Burgiel is going to come good based off nothing but vibes

 

[Cuzz09]

The one thing that Burgiel has is pace but with bad hammies that is going too.

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[Ghossein]

I hope he makes it but Culley doesn't really have anything great to make it in today's AFL.

Gets decent numbers in WAFL but it's a huge drop off in pace/pressure

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at 194 cm he'd make a pretty handy 3rd tall, he's pretty good at applying pressure and laying tackles

agree that he doesn't seem up to a midfield role at AFL level

 

[eagles rule]

Hope Darling does well at North Melbourne.

I think he will do ok under Clarkson playing a Gunston type of role. Darling is miles ahead of Pink or Ford and will walk into the first 18 ..


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[Ghossein]

The one thing that Burgiel has is pace but with bad hammies that is going too.

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so does fan favourite Jack Petrol Jelly

 

[RanaNaved]

Re Burgiel, remember that game vs Claremont in the slop and pouring rain? Burgiel was like the only guy with relatively white shorts and clean top..

 

[Cuzz09]

Surprised there was only 3 delisted tbh

Guess some guys are on contracts etc

Maybe we can trade as many as possible

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[Big_Birdy]

Surprised there was only 3 delisted tbh

Guess some guys are on contracts etc

Maybe we can trade as many as possible

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No reason to think there won’t be more delistings

 

[flyinghi64]

Pretty sure he did, he wouldn't have been able to play otherwise.

Nobody's business really.
Never should have been for anyone either.

 

[Goomba1973]

What I’d love to see this off season. Stay in the draft and don’t waste picks on average players during trade week.

Dockers get Baker and Bolton for 9 & 10 plus sweetners.

Barrass & F2 to Hawks for pick 13 & Hawks F1

Three way deal with Suns and Tigers

Eagles get 6,12, 29 & 39
Tigers Get pick 3
Suns get Rioli, Hawks F1, 23

Darling & F4 to Nth
Nth F3 to Eagles

Take 6,12,13,23,40 & 59

1 Smith (Tigers)
2 Ashcroft (bid) Lions*
3 Draper (Nth)
4 Fos (Tigers)
5 Lalor (Crows)
6 Reid (Dees)
7 Langford (Eagles)
8 Smillie (Saints)
9 Lombard (Suns) Academy*
10 Tauru (ESS)
11 Trainor (Tigers)
12 Armstrong (Tigers)
13 Kako (ESS) Academy*
14 Berry (Blues)
15 Travaglia (Eagles)
16 Allan (Eagles)

29 Gerryn/O’Farrell (Eagles)
39 Barrat/Davis (Eagles)
59 Champion (Eagles)

There are a number of different candidates for pick 29 and 39. Just giving examples above.

I think we will be interested in Langford. He gets criticism for his athletic ability but at AFL level he will be an inside mid that can push fwd and take a good grab. I’ve loved his thirst for the contest and at his size he will be a bull. Big mids will get it done in contested finals.

Contested ball has been a big issue for us for a while now and I see Langford and Allan addressing this issue as they develop. I think both hit the ball harder than anyone in the draft. Allan has speed which Langford hasn’t, Langford finds more of the ball. Both have penetrating kicks.

I would take Lalor over Langford ... 190cm mid/forward bull that can clunk marks, vise like tackles , does damage with ball in hand, and will average 20+ a game.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Burgiel would be the only one I consider signing for 1 year deal. Send him straight to Qatar or where ever the players go

Use Burgeil as steak knives in the Baker trade .

Future 2nd + Burgeil for Baker + 47 .

Send 47 to brissy for dev .

 

[Goomba1973]

Baker is not good enough to still be umming and ahhhhhinh about where to go. Seasons been over for weeks mate, pick a team.

it's just smoke and mirrors.... Richmond have told him to be quite so they can drag it out and try and force a good deal for the tigers. He knows where he wants to go. WC need to call the bluff and just wait.... and not be too fussed if they miss out.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Nobody's business really.
Never should have been for anyone either.

People lost their shit during covid and acted like complete control freaks .

Now they just want us to move on and for us to forget all the BS they did ?

Not ****ing likely

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

so are we actually offering Culley a 1 year deal? Why would that not be tied up by now?

I think Culley has to be put on the senior list.
I would be fine if he stayed on the rookie list but this is an awesome draft and spots on the senior list are at a premium

 

[eaglevision]

I think Culley has to be put on the senior list.
I would be fine if he stayed on the rookie list but this is an awesome draft and spots on the senior list are at a premium

Had a look into this as did Keys. Little vague but sounds like you can do 3.5 years in the rookie list before being upgraded so 2025 would be his last year as a rookie given we drafted him in 2022.

 

[Cuzz09]

No reason to think there won’t be more delistings

oh OK wasn't sure how it works

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[Monocle]

Surprised there was only 3 delisted tbh

Guess some guys are on contracts etc

Maybe we can trade as many as possible

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We will be waiting to see who becomes available to join us in trade week and which of the players we currently have offers to join us.
And how many picks we intend to use.

If ( and yes I know highly unlikely ) the following.

Parfett
Peatling
Baker
Graham
Garcia
Carroll

All decide to join us then we will cut deeper with the delistings.

Until then we keep our powder dry.

Culley, Witherden, Burgiel, Rotham, Edwards.

All have a nervous wait, with the reality being that they may not know until AFTER the trade period and the draft.

All we do know is that Gaff, Barrass, Darking, Trew, Baker and Jones won’t be at the Club next year.

 

[flyinghi64]

Culley for mine should be retained and given a good crack at it. Thought he was tracking really well until the injury.
Seems like he has good work ethic and will do anything and everything to get the best out of himself. Needs some sustained games at AFL level to see if he can actually cut it or not.
Not a quarter as sub and then dropped.

 

[Jupes]

yes to oliver but only in a 'bowes to geelong' type deal where we also get their pick 5. want him and his contract gone? pay up campaigners.

 

[mat11]

Am I a bit of a tight *** for wanting more for darling? 64 is a bit crap even though on draft night it'll come back to 50's

Darling + 59
For pick 40 sounds better

 

[Chris_6678]

Am I a bit of a tight *** for wanting more for darling? 64 is a bit crap even though on draft night it'll come back to 50's

Darling + 59
For pick 40 sounds better

Eh its for a salary dump 59 is fair in my opinion.

 

[Cuzz09]

Darling pick use on Champion?

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