List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Mattman93]

Yeah I agree, he's what recruiters love. He's a talented footballer with the size, speed and power to be a difference maker

The misconception is that it's about the big powerful beast stuff, and that he's a dynamic forward with some midfield potential, like the Bailey Humphrey of this year's draft.

It's his genuine midfield ability that's the thing; he has terrific awareness and anticipation around stoppages and is very, very good by hand, both off the ground and disposal-wise. We badly need players who get to ground balls first and when they do who have the ability to reliably release nearby teammates into space, which is what he does.

The question mark may admittedly be conditioning, but it's certainly not his prospects of transitioning into the middle.

Good to see the Lalor wagon gathering steam, though; make it happen BOND 007

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Isn't the hammy a big concern for Lalor?
Dunno if I'd wanna risk it after Hewett and Burgiel.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Has a lot of puppy fat.

Like Luke Hodge did

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I am a campaigner that should uppercut myself in the throat, but I would have no problem with us trading pick 3 for 9 and 10. I find it hard to believe that whoever we take at 3 would give us more wins over the next decade than Tobie Travaglia and Xavier Lindsay.

TT and Lindsay are fine prospects that would tempt me as well. You’ll probably cop crap on this post as many of our posters only have a superficial understanding of the non-headline acts

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Really liked how Lalor spoke on gettable, but will struggle with his pronunciation if we draft him

 

[mat11]

TT and Lindsay are fine prospects that would tempt me as well. You’ll probably cop crap on this post as many of our posters only have a superficial understanding of the non-headline acts

Could probably guarantee 1 of TT and Lindsay with 13 then something different with 3?

 

[SumaGodCoach]

TT and Lindsay are fine prospects that would tempt me as well. You’ll probably cop crap on this post as many of our posters only have a superficial understanding of the non-headline acts

All potential picks at 3 have question marks. Splitting down mitigates risk. I have studies saved on my computer at home that show that teams are overly risk averse when it comes to trading down from a top 5 pick.

TT is a hard nut who intercepts well above his height. X is one of the best kicks in the draft and I am highly confident that he is a genuine mid at AFL level.

 

[random260]

I am a campaigner that should uppercut myself in the throat, but I would have no problem with us trading pick 3 for 9 and 10. I find it hard to believe that whoever we take at 3 would give us more wins over the next decade than Tobie Travaglia and Xavier Lindsay.

Do you found it hard to believe/difficult pill to swallow that so far:

Wardlaw/Sheezle >>> Elijah Hewett+ Ginbey on output. Because that actually has occurred.

We are in no position for slow burn types.

The reverse is true the lower the draft pick the bigger the risk you get a dud or injury risk player.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

random260 red thumb me again daddy

 

[Cuzz09]

Have we ever had a Tobie?



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[SumaGodCoach]

Have we ever had a Tobie?



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Yes, 2 months from now.

 

[eaglevision]

All potential picks at 3 have question marks. Splitting down mitigates risk. I have studies saved on my computer at home that show that teams are overly risk averse when it comes to trading down from a top 5 pick.

TT is a hard nut who intercepts well above his height. X is one of the best kicks in the draft and I am highly confident that he is a genuine mid at AFL level.

Travaglia and Lindsay will be the two best value picks in the first round of the draft and to the surprise of absolutely no one are my two favourite players. If we can find a way to get both I’m all for exploring it. 3 for 6 and 9 may well get us Lalor, Travaglia and then Lindsay at 13.

3 for 9 and 10 probably means we miss Travaglia and end up with Lindsay, Berry and Allan.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Then if it isn't a salary dump why don't we pay a portion of his salary to improve the draft pick? It's by all accounts a deep draft and we don't have a 3rd rounder, surely it makes more sense to go that route instead?

Probably because north have space to pay themselves and don’t want to give a good pick.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

Travaglia and Lindsay will be the two best value picks in the first round of the draft and to the surprise of absolutely no one are my two favourite players. If we can find a way to get both I’m all for exploring it. 3 for 6 and 9 may well get us Lalor, Travaglia and then Lindsay at 13.

3 for 9 and 10 probably means we miss Travaglia and end up with Lindsay, Berry and Allan.

9 means we get TT but 9 means we don't?

 

[eaglevision]

9 means we get TT but 9 means we don't?

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“May” and “probably” not “will” and “will not”

 

[darksquare]

Travaglia, Lindsay and Berry all seem like very good players in positions of need. I'd love any of them. But I'd also love a genuine difference-making midfielder, and there appear to be several in the draft - Smith, Lalor, Draper, Langford, FOS (I'm not sold on Smillie). Even later, there might be some very handy bargains - Moraes and Gross are very tempting around pick 23. All in all, I think it should be hard to stuff this draft up. I really hope we don't overpay for Baker. This isn't the year for it.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

TT and Lindsay are fine prospects that would tempt me as well. You’ll probably cop crap on this post as many of our posters only have a superficial understanding of the non-headline acts

Even if we didn’t take a top 6 pick but walked away from this draft with TT, Lindsay, Berry and a promising KPD I’d be beyond happy with that haul.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Travaglia, Lindsay and Berry all seem like very good players in positions of need. I'd love any of them. But I'd also love a genuine difference-making midfielder, and there appear to be several in the draft - Smith, Lalor, Draper, Langford, FOS (I'm not sold on Smillie). Even later, there might be some very handy bargains - Moraes and Gross are very tempting around pick 23. All in all, I think it should be hard to stuff this draft up. I really hope we don't overpay for Baker. This isn't the year for it.

Yep very excited to see who we can snag with pick 23

 

[mat11]

Travaglia and Lindsay will be the two best value picks in the first round of the draft and to the surprise of absolutely no one are my two favourite players. If we can find a way to get both I’m all for exploring it. 3 for 6 and 9 may well get us Lalor, Travaglia and then Lindsay at 13.

3 for 9 and 10 probably means we miss Travaglia and end up with Lindsay, Berry and Allan.

Seems a bit too kind to us just 3 for 6 and 9.

Maybe 3 and 23 for 6 and 9 is fairer?

6 Lalor
9 Travaglia
13 Lindsay
59 ??
64 ??

Would be awesome!!

 

[eaglevision]

Seems a bit too kind to us just 3 for 6 and 9.

Maybe 3 and 23 for 6 and 9 is fairer?

6 Lalor
9 Travaglia
13 Lindsay
59 ??
64 ??

Would be awesome!!

We’re not here to be kind. If Richmond are that desperate to pair Jagga and FOS then we leverage it. If push came to shove add our F2 rather than 23 but as I’ve posted if I was putting money on it I think Tigers will deal with Norf for pick 2.

But if we did the above deal and got the best KPD at 23 which will end up 29-30 then that’s a very good result. 59 and 64 are most likely going to pay for Champion but I’m still hoping we can gets players or picks for Petch and Bailey to beef up our 3R hand more. Garcia is in Perth this week so I hope we’ve sent our most charming staff member around to the Garcias.

 

[mat11]

We’re not here to be kind. If Richmond are that desperate to pair Jagga and FOS then we leverage it. If push came to shove add our F2 rather than 23 but as I’ve posted if I was putting money on it I think Tigers will deal with Norf for pick 2.

But if we did the above deal and got the best KPD at 23 which will end up 29-30 then that’s a very good result. 59 and 64 are most likely going to pay for Champion but I’m still hoping we can gets players or picks for Petch and Bailey to beef up our 3R hand more. Garcia is in Perth this week so I hope we’ve sent our most charming staff member around to the Garcias.

I just think this year's draft is too even, last year 3 for 6 and 9 but not this year imo.

Very intrigued what we'll do with 23 and onwards. Their will definitely be a kpd in there. I wouldn't be surprised if malakai slips through to the rookie draft but agree those latter picks leverage us well to bid shall he fall late thirties

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Draper for me.he operates real well in tight and that is so important in todays game

 

[garlic munchers]

My fear with all this chasing 'the chad' is we make the same mistake we made with trading for TK.

In a deep draft, I would hate to not have a crack at 5 picks this year inside the top 40.

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This... lets at least see whether we can pick some ripping talent in this year's draft as we have more holes to fill than a pager user.

If yes, maybe we consider multiple picks for a star next year.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Worst idea I have ever read on here, you must be an insider.

 

[plays tall 1]

Really liked how Lalor spoke on gettable, but will struggle with his pronunciation if we draft him

If Anastasia Palaschuszczuk can pronounce her name as Palashay, as if French, then I guess Sam’s efforts are pretty modest by comparison.