List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[eaglevision]

A question for the draft watchers. Is Moraes just a no go now? His stock has plummeted, but seems like he would provide that outside run and class that we need. Did he fall victim to being pushed out of a stacked Vic metro midfield, and could he be a potential value pick at 23 if he slides? What's the knock on him from a WCE perspective?

I still rate him. Did get pushed out of the VicM midfield and needs to work on a couple of things like his ball drop but I’d expect he’d be in the conversation for pick 23 if available but I do think he’ll go earlier.

 

[RanaNaved]

Moraes is like a poor man's Tsatas imo

 

[mitchzz]

Moraes is like a poor man's Tsatas imo

I don't remember many 5 goal games from Tsatas

Different players I reckon

I think Moraes has more of a chance of making it

 

[Monocle]

A question for the draft watchers. Is Moraes just a no go now? His stock has plummeted, but seems like he would provide that outside run and class that we need. Did he fall victim to being pushed out of a stacked Vic metro midfield, and could he be a potential value pick at 23 if he slides? What's the knock on him from a WCE perspective?

I don't think he has done a lot wrong, more so that others have emerged and overtaken him in the pecking order.

Some of us were talking up the depth of this draft cohort 12 months ago and ridiculed with the .... yeah, yeah..... that same old chestnut fallacy that " next years draft cohort is always better".

Well rolling forward 12 months and I think those skeptics would begrudgingly concede, that the claim of a very deep draft cohort in 24, was in fact a good call.

I see Moraes going in the early to mid second round and that will be outstanding value for money for such a talented kid.

A lot confuse the terms a super draft and a deep draft.

IMO a super draft can only be labeled as such 5-7 years after the event, whereas a deep draft is pretty easy to identify prior to the draft.

Make no mistake the 2024 draft cohort runs very deep, positionally probably short of ruck prospects, but pretty much every other positional group is well stacked.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Draper can't kick... But other than that is pretty good

Smilie.. I like... bit like a Dave Mundy...

What ? He is a very neat kick for an inside mid . Drop punts it most of the time so no snaps out of clearance or just thumping it forward .

 

[eaglespremiers]

We need to address this far more than HBF like TT who would be nice but not necessary ATM

I think Travaglia is a better prospect than Draper TBH.

 

[Shmiddy15]

Draper’s composure worries me in some of his videos. Seems to panic a bit, and also a bit prone to getting rag dolled (against men tbf).

Love his speed and will to chase and tackle, but I’m not as sold on him as I was earlier.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Need to listen to AFL nation on SEN 20 minutes prior to tonites games.

When discussing merretts godfather offer and what would Harley demand someone asked the question right now warner or reid if you had to choose. Then while commenting that it's interesting Warner's demand will come next year someone intimated that the nest 2 weeks will be interesting regarding Warner moving or not.

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[Rowan18]

Moraes is like a poor man's Tsatas imo

Jesus - Tsatas is a poor man's AFL player, so Moraes must suck

 

[rebel23]

IMO..Draper and Smillie on par and the rest a notch ahead.

Draper and Smillie have gone missing for parts of the year and Smillie has a higher ceiling

Draper can't kick... But other than that is pretty good

Smilie.. I like... bit like a Dave Mundy...

What ? He is a very neat kick for an inside mid . Drop punts it most of the time so no snaps out of clearance or just thumping it forward .

From videos it seems he seems to have trouble hitting the short 15m passes... Seems awkward for him

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Willie Rioli

15

Willie Rioli

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

. What a star!! Sob Sob Sob

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Willie Rioli. What a star!! Sob Sob Sob

Should have got a first rounders for him

 

[ziad]

Should have got a first rounders for him

need to stop this charity work.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Draper can't kick... But other than that is pretty good

Smilie.. I like... bit like a Dave Mundy...

Diversity is wonderful.

Good to have polar opposite views

 

[Jukes]

Need to listen to AFL nation on SEN 20 minutes prior to tonites games.

When discussing merretts godfather offer and what would Harley demand someone asked the question right now warner or reid if you had to choose. Then while commenting that it's interesting Warner's demand will come next year someone intimated that the nest 2 weeks will be interesting regarding Warner moving or not.

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Can’t help but feel that if Swans win the flag, Warner will be gettable this year. No unfinished business Dev style and he can go and chase the bag.

 

[Elite Pete]

Can’t help but feel that if Swans win the flag, Warner will be gettable this year. No unfinished business Dev style and he can go and chase the bag.

Yeah probably looking at $1m less just next year if he stays and probably around $800k every year after.

If it’s this year and it’s Freo, will be interesting where that leaves Bolton and how that plays out.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Chad's a gun - but would he be a good fit for us this year with pick 3?

Feel like we need a real accumulator

 

[Elite Pete]

Chad's a gun - but would he be a good fit for us this year with pick 3?

Feel like we need a real accumulator

If it just cost pick 3? 100% no question.

 

[ToastieBoy18]

If it is this year I am trying to split 3 with 6 and 9 - maybe 23 going back.

Give Sydney 6 and Hawks F1.

Take 9, 13 to the draft and bring in Warner.

 

[Toli13]

Does anyone have any mail on Erasmus? Are we still chasing him and is he likely to request a trade to us?

 

[ghostbat12]

Many ways to rebuild ‘properly’.

The old way of selling everything and playing 18 year olds no longer works without priority picks. Academies mean other clubs get stronger quicker than you do.

With the rules, games are more open and you get smashed easily as north and us have found out.

 

[ghostbat12]

Does anyone have any mail on Erasmus? Are we still chasing him and is he likely to request a trade to us?

Still chasing him? Who said we were?

 

[eaglevision]

If it is this year I am trying to split 3 with 6 and 9 - maybe 23 going back.

Give Sydney 6 and Hawks F1.

Take 9, 13 to the draft and bring in Warner.

Don’t mind it but still think there’s next to no chance the Swans release him a year early. Would happily pay our 1R for him next year OOC.

Getting TDK next year would be an even better acquisition for us. Carlton couldn’t match a big financial offer and we’d get him free of draft capital. Allowing our mids to set up offensively would be a game changer. If there’s one cage we should be rattling it’s that one.

 

[WCE_phil]

Still chasing him? Who said we were?

Sure as shit wasn't one of the 3 players I was chasing from Freo.

 

[eaglevision]

Sure as shit wasn't one of the 3 players I was chasing from Freo.

“Was” chasing doesn’t sound promising…