List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[mat11]

Barass + f3 for 13 and Hawks f1
Darling for pick 58
Pick 23 + Culley for LiamBaker
3 + 13 for 6 + 9
58,59,Rotham compo, Hawks f1 for GC 12

6 - Lalor
9 - Travaglia
12 - Tauru
LiamBaker
(FA) Graham

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Disregard the rotham compo If we land Graham my bad

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[BartBart]

Mark Duffield reporting that Freo want to keep 9 or 10 to get Bo Allan. Being at Peel gives them great insights and Twomey has him moving into 12th place in September (11th excluding Levi). I read into that Cal has been given insights

Tigers will want both 9 and 10 but I expect most can see that he is not worth 2 x top 10 picks. Likewise with Rioli - pick 6 feels about right (and maybe Tigers get the right to bid on pick 12 with decent points but not huge overs)

It will be a big watch as to whether the Tigers get on with decent deals or play the disruptive game a la Cats. Playing tough might win one deal but likely not optimise their total hand.

Pick 6 feels right for Rioli?

As in you think GC will pay pick 6, or you think he is actually worth pick 6?

 

[swingdog]

Pick 6 feels right for Rioli?

As in you think GC will pay pick 6, or you think he is actually worth pick 6?

Everytime I hear pick 6 for Rioli, I think "is there another Rioli I don't know about because none of the current ones are worth that"?

 

[KERRPOW]

Mark Duffield reporting that Freo want to keep 9 or 10 to get Bo Allan. Being at Peel gives them great insights and Twomey has him moving into 12th place in September (11th excluding Levi). I read into that Cal has been given insights

Tigers will want both 9 and 10 but I expect most can see that he is not worth 2 x top 10 picks. Likewise with Rioli - pick 6 feels about right (and maybe Tigers get the right to bid on pick 12 with decent points but not huge overs)

It will be a big watch as to whether the Tigers get on with decent deals or play the disruptive game a la Cats. Playing tough might win one deal but likely not optimise their total hand.

Duff has his freo blinkers on with this one.

The tigers hold the whip as bolton has 4 years left on his contract. They have every right to demand overs for him to make it worthwhile trading him.

 

[FKASC]

Everytime I hear pick 6 for Rioli, I think "is there another Rioli I don't know about because none of the current ones are worth that"?

Yeah it’s crazy hey. Pick in the teens imo. He will be a weapon in a good side but he’s not pick 6. Gold Coast surcharge though

 

[stallon]

Was there something from Gold Coast or whatever saying pick 6 would be on the table? Or is it another pick 13 for Baker situation where theyre just having a guess?

Their pick 6 is something we should surely be looking at with our F1, if we wanted to play Geelong style games to get Warner by straight up not having enough trade capital for the guys we chase

 

[Kegs15]

Pick 6 feels right for Rioli?

As in you think GC will pay pick 6, or you think he is actually worth pick 6?

Genuinely our best list management strategy going forward would be to, for anyone who's decent but we could stand to lose, implant hypnotic suggestions of gold coast, gold coast, suns, gold coast, hook up their gym playlist to a backwards version of join the gold coast and hope they request a trade.

They're so desperate/excited for anyone to come to them they'll overpay by ridiculous amounts.

 

[BartBart]

Everytime I hear pick 6 for Rioli, I think "is there another Rioli I don't know about because none of the current ones are worth that"?

Yeah... I get like Barrass he is under contract.

But it seems like everyone is assuming GC will throw picks around like confetti like usual and because they've got pick 6 they've added 2 & 2 together and got 5.

If they give 6 then they are still no hopers.
If they do a normal trade, then their prospects are looking up.

 

[Jed Clampet]

Sam also saying we have appointed a head of football to sit above Gavin bell but no name floating around at this stage… he isn’t sure why it hasn’t been announced.


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So Tim Gepp finally has a job title.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Barass + f3 for 13 and Hawks f1
Darling for pick 58
Pick 23 + Culley for LiamBaker
3 + 13 for 6 + 9
58,59,Rotham compo, Hawks f1 for GC 12

6 - Lalor
9 - Travaglia
12 - Tauru
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Don't think we get any compo because we will pick up Jack Graham.

 

[Schtinker]

Everytime I hear pick 6 for Rioli, I think "is there another Rioli I don't know about because none of the current ones are worth that"?

I'm the same every time I hear 2x1st rounders for Barrass. I just can't see it being conceivable that it happens. He's no Judd

 

[ghostbat12]

Duff has his freo blinkers on with this one.

The tigers hold the whip as bolton has 4 years left on his contract. They have every right to demand overs for him to make it worthwhile trading him.

They are also demanding overs for a player out of contract.

 

[KERRPOW]

They are also demanding overs for a player out of contract.

Yeh they can get feked over that

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Everytime I hear pick 6 for Rioli, I think "is there another Rioli I don't know about because none of the current ones are worth that"?

I know the AFL Player Ratings has it's flaws, but anytime you can pick up the guy who was rated 93rd on the season for pick 6 you have to do it!

Also, unless GC are being silly, there's no way they will give up 6 for him. 6 will probably beat the Lombardo bid so they need to keep it. Imagine 12 and 20 (if required) would be their preference as they are just going to be eaten up by points matching.

 

[chaddy22]

How many ruck options would that make on our list?

Two. Matt Flynn and Harry Barnett.Everybody else are ruck/forwards.
I don't consider Bwilliams as a ruckman.
The Dockers have three with Darcy,Reidy and Knobel and four if you include Jackson who is so much better than Bwilliams.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The fact Geelong are going to try bring in Oliver and Smith when this is their draft hand



Really hope Dogs and Demons tell them to go get ****ed. Both teams would be better off keeping Smith and Oliver and rehabbing their value next year, no way they will be worth less than currently.

 

[Deepthroat]

I have a feeling the GC Pick 12 will well and truly be bundled, giftwrapped with a bow and delivered to someone else (other than us) before we get all our complicated scenarios lined up.

Much like last year someone will swoop with a solid offer and snare it.

Gold Coast won't want to still be shopping it late into the trade period.

 

[KERRPOW]

Don't think we get any compo because we will pick up Jack Graham.

Unlikely we'd get any compo for rotham anyway.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I have a feeling the GC Pick 12 will well and truly be bundled, giftwrapped with a bow and delivered to someone else (other than us) before we get all our complicated scenarios lined up.

Much like last year someone will swoop with a solid offer and snare it.

Gold Coast won't want to still be shopping it late into the trade period.

Hawks future first would get it if we wanted I imagine

 

[ArdentEagle]

A guy called the rumour king has mentioned we have touched base with Brayden Pruess as a potential rookie pickup….

Will either miss the season injured , suspended or injure others at training


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Are you ep2018 grumpier old Dad?

You're always so negative and angry....I for one vote for a username change to KingSandyKent

 

[Elite Pete]

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Can't say I've ever heard Baker be described as a Smooth mover or that he "leads his team's midfield" like this bloke either, yet here we are.

Miers seen as someone who the Cats want the ball in his hands

 

[garlic munchers]

I love Baker’s spirit and we will benefit from his arrival along with Graham. Both seem like good characters.

That said, it feels like he has burned his bridge back to Punt Road judging from his B&F speech. He obviously loved his time and who wouldn’t with 3 Flags. He has smelt a rat in the club and the mass exodus has momentum. Out of contract means a lot and I expect a deal to go through that pisses both supporter groups off. The Taylor Adams trade of 33 feel right to me. That probably means 23 with a pick in the 30’s coming back.

Don’t forget, he took a month to decide on us or the Purples. If we had given a hard commitment, he would have come out after the exit interview and said make me an Eagle. Personally I would prefer a F2 with a 2024 R3 coming back. After all, who can name a position that he is first quartile in? Too small to be a starting inside mid, too slow to be an outside mid. Not quick by hand or foot to be a top small forward. Not elite by foot meaning he is not the quarterback distributor. What I have witnessed is a great team player who can fill in most places and a really useful utility. Kind of sounds like Liam Duggan and I would expect he is worth a mid second round. Players that can come in and play a role well.

Agree 100%.

Make him an Eagle ..... and with Longy and Champion we only need 4 more to join Harley.

 

[eaglevision]

Clancy Dennis won’t test at the combine and won’t be able to show his tank. If he gets through to the rookie draft then he should be hugely considered.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Listening to McQualter, it sounds like the instruction will be to draft players who will apply pressure. Presumably running ability, leg speed and contested game will be prioritised.

Was thinking this would be high on his agenda - pressure game.

 

[mattyc75]

Also 70kg ringing wet. Look forward to the first intraclub game when Harley throws him over the fence like a discus.


Kelly’s kicking is horrendously over rated too. Nails a bullet on the tit once or twice a game and everyone goes full mast. Then he burns Harley, turns the ball over and doesn’t run the other way.

Has bakers weight affected his career so far? I haven't watched too much of the tiges but most descriptions of baker is hes a tough competitor. Never once have i heard him being described as a pushover,weak at the contest etc

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