List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[BartBart]

Difference is Parker just kicked three goals in a Grand Final and is actually part of Sydney’s plans. Jack is fourth in line, trending to be fifth, for his own position and has no prospect of a contract extension from us.

You don’t need to have a win for the sake of having a win when we’re talking 61 vs 67.

3 goals whilst Brisbane were celebrating a Premiership in junk time.

 

[mattyc75]

Problem is Gold Coast don’t play on the same field as the rest of the league.

Everyone gets a turn on the GC draft lottery, as the system has been set up for them to really never want or need high end picks. Quantity over quality and every other club gets to pick at them on a year by year basis.

We had our turn, it was fun, but really it’s a blight on the league.

And they need to get ahead of a bid for Lombard so they get rioli and Lombard then it's a win for them.

On SM-S921B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[footy_basis]

We finally have an A grader who wants out. Trading away whatever we get for him to another team for one of their OOC players makes no sense especially when we are rebuilding. Get as much as we can for Barrass and pay as little as possible for Baker. Keep pick 3 (or split it into 2 top 10 picks) and hold on to the Barrass pick/s. JTB in the PSD and win the trade week.

Isn't baker a free agent next year? He can stay 1 more year and we can use pick 14 at the draft. The whole scenario is ridiculous and reeks of richmond.

 

[Footfalcon]

3 goals whilst Brisbane were celebrating a Premiership in junk time.

I call that the Jack Petrecelli special

 

[Into The Black]

Really? What's wrong with all other 16 teams paying for a player that the 18th team doesn't want to spend draft capital to attain? Why should the team benefiting from the trade have to give up anything?
Some people are just so selfish!

Huh?

 

[Barrybran]

Isn't baker a free agent next year? He can stay 1 more year and we can use pick 14 at the draft. The whole scenario is ridiculous and reeks of richmond.

I'm hoping we offer our F2 and leave it at that. Baker is unncontracted and it's not like he's going to sign a 1-year contract to justify us giving Richmond a current year pick (26). If he does, we pick him up for free next year and Richmond probably winds up with only a slightly better pick anyway via free agency compensation.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Baker needs to make it known he’s happy to be walked to the PSD. Question for those in the know, Other than financial terms can you stipulate anything like living in a certain state etc?

I’d be more worried about the Kangaroos than the tigers taking him

 

[THE A5]

Imagine the Vic media carry on if we walk Baker to the PSD. Actually I reckon it’ll be huge even if we get him without parting a first rounder

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Isn't baker a free agent next year? He can stay 1 more year and we can use pick 14 at the draft. The whole scenario is ridiculous and reeks of richmond.

This talking point has cropped up a bit in this thread, and it’s absolutely farcical.

Imagine Barrass was in the same scenario - uncontracted but not yet a free agent. Nobody in here would accept for one second him signing up on a one year rental, so he can leave as a FA next year.

But the compo might be good, isn’t that worth something? Well no, not against the backdrop of unsettling the whole squad.

So we have Barrass for a year, and he plays over HEdwards. Why are we wasting minutes on this bloke instead of prepping the future, when we know he’s gone in a year? We’re not in win now.

Barrass doesn’t play at all? Oh so we’ve got some guy just getting paid to train and what does that do for standards across the group?

The one year top up contract to rent a bloke before he leaves as a FA is a fantasy, it’s just not how any credible sporting organisation would run.

If the shoe was on the other foot we’d want the deal done now and move on with our pick, get the player where he needs to go, one year is a hell of a long time in footy as plenty can change so we’d want it sorted now.

He’s not signing a one year top up so we can get him for cash only and send Richmond a compo pick.

 

[archiemoses]

He'd probably stay one more year at Richmond rather than go to the PSD.

 

[Monocle]

Imagine the Vic media carry on if we walk Baker to the PSD. Actually I reckon it’ll be huge even if we get him without parting a first rounder

It s not going to happen A5.

Mathew Clarke is dead set on acquiring Baker and let's just say that if what I have heard is happening, this board is going to spew with how this deal goes down.

Clarke must still be on a retainer from Richmond, because if my mail is correct, he may as well be doing Richmonds bidding for them.

Sadly it would appear that Clarke is auditioning for the remake of Draft Day except his sticky reads:

Liam Baker No Matter What

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

This talking point has cropped up a bit in this thread, and it’s absolutely farcical.

Imagine Barrass was in the same scenario - uncontracted but not yet a free agent. Nobody in here would accept for one second him signing up on a one year rental, so he can leave as a FA next year.

But the compo might be good, isn’t that worth something? Well no, not against the backdrop of unsettling the whole squad.

So we have Barrass for a year, and he plays over HEdwards. Why are we wasting minutes on this bloke instead of prepping the future, when we know he’s gone in a year? We’re not in win now.

Barrass doesn’t play at all? Oh so we’ve got some guy just getting paid to train and what does that do for standards across the group?

The one year top up contract to rent a bloke before he leaves as a FA is a fantasy, it’s just not how any credible sporting organisation would run.

If the shoe was on the other foot we’d want the deal done now and move on with our pick, get the player where he needs to go, one year is a hell of a long time in footy as plenty can change so we’d want it sorted now.

He’s not signing a one year top up so we can get him for cash only and send Richmond a compo pick.

In that case Richmond aren't going to take him in the PSD so let's send him there

 

[TerryFilk]

It s not going to happen A5.

Mathew Clarke is dead set on acquiring Baker and let's just say that if what I have heard is happening, this board is going to spew with how this deal goes down.

Clarke must still be on a retainer from Richmond, because if my mail is correct, he may as well be doing Richmonds bidding for them.

Sadly it would appear that Clarke is auditioning for the remake of Draft Day except his sticky reads:

Liam Baker No Matter What


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Share what you’ve heard, I’m in the mood to melt and stare at my ceiling with tears in my eyes.

 

[THE A5]

It s not going to happen A5.

Mathew Clarke is dead set on acquiring Baker and let's just say that if what I have heard is happening, this board is going to spew with how this deal goes down.

Clarke must still be on a retainer from Richmond, because if my mail is correct, he may as well be doing Richmonds bidding for them.

Sadly it would appear that Clarke is auditioning for the remake of Draft Day except his sticky reads:

Liam Baker No Matter What


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Yep thats the feeling I’m getting.

I’m getting a feeling this trade will be end up far worse off than the TK trade but will get far less criticism later down the line than the TK deal.

 

[THE A5]

Share what you’ve heard, I’m in the mood to melt and stare at my ceiling with tears in my eyes.

It’s 10.40 pm. Might as well start the bed wetting already

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

It s not going to happen A5.

Mathew Clarke is dead set on acquiring Baker and let's just say that if what I have heard is happening, this board is going to spew with how this deal goes down.

Clarke must still be on a retainer from Richmond, because if my mail is correct, he may as well be doing Richmonds bidding for them.

Sadly it would appear that Clarke is auditioning for the remake of Draft Day except his sticky reads:

Liam Baker No Matter What


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How is it that no one involved in our recruiting department has any concept of negotiations and leverage? Not sure if we've ever been shown any of this supposed goodwill back that we so love to give out every trade period.

It should be as simple as we are rebuilding, we aren't giving up any top 20 picks and he is uncontracted and if they dont like that then he can go through the PSD.

 

[Monocle]

Yep thats the feeling I’m getting.

I’m getting a feeling this trade will be end up far worse off than the TK trade but will get far less criticism later down the line than the TK deal.

It wont be anywhere near as bad as the Kelly Trade, but it will leave you somewhat flat and shaking your head.
If what I am hearing is true.

 

[Bender_]

Yep thats the feeling I’m getting.

I’m getting a feeling this trade will be end up far worse off than the TK trade but will get far less criticism later down the line than the TK deal.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

In that case Richmond aren't going to take him in the PSD so let's send him there

I feel like they’d pretty gladly pick him up again over losing him for nothing. The annual ‘march him to the PSD’ chat that takes place on every single board is great in isolation but just doesn’t happen.

I think pick 13 (14) is too high, but what’s more insane are the BigFooty trade machinations that are detached from reality. They also seem to forget that the players are human beings with lives and families, and that the same set of teams will have to deal with eachother again in future.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

It s not going to happen A5.

Mathew Clarke is dead set on acquiring Baker and let's just say that if what I have heard is happening, this board is going to spew with how this deal goes down.

Clarke must still be on a retainer from Richmond, because if my mail is correct, he may as well be doing Richmonds bidding for them.

Sadly it would appear that Clarke is auditioning for the remake of Draft Day except his sticky reads:

Liam Baker No Matter What


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Let’s just say you should say what you’ve apparently heard, and stop being so ****ing dramatic. It is what it is!

 

[THE A5]

This gag is tedious, like you. Please ban yourself

 

[Ghossein]

This gag is tedious, like you. Please ban yourself

say the line Bart

 

[Monocle]

Let’s just say you should say what you’ve apparently heard, and stop being so ****ing dramatic. It is what it is!

Sure, no worries, I wont bother posting what I hear, spare your good self from the dramatics.
Done.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Sure, no worries, I wont bother posting what I hear, spare your good self from the dramatics.
Done.

You haven’t actually posted anything that you’ve heard!

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I feel like they’d pretty gladly pick him up again over losing him for nothing. The annual ‘march him to the PSD’ chat that takes place on every single board is great in isolation but just doesn’t happen.

I think pick 13 (14) is too high, but what’s more insane are the BigFooty trade machinations that are detached from reality. They also seem to forget that the players are human beings with lives and families, and that the same set of teams will have to deal with eachother again in future.

If the AFLPA didn't step in to prevent it already then I'm sure he'd only sign a year deal to see him through to AA. If 14 is too high why is it we are always the club that has to accommodate to get a deal done? Geelong do just fine by being absolute campaigners at the trade table. They're about to pay less for a better, 3 year younger former top 10 pick player, if Baker was headed there there's absolutely 0 chance they'd be coughing up pick 14, and they don't need 14 as much as we do.