List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[AsterixTheGaul]

Rozelle isn’t cheap though.

Cheap and Sydney property prices do not normally get written down in the same sentence.

 

[Knifey Spoony]

Step one: Trade pick 1 to North for picks 2 and 3.
Step two: They draft McKercher
Step three: We take Reid and Curtin
Step four:

 

[TerryFilk]

What the f*** do the Duursma family feed their kids lol?

 

[Cornelius Roy]

You haven't lived in Sydney then.

I live in the inner west (Rozelle) and it's an amazing place to live. Barely use a car as so walkable, lots of parks for the kids, lots of pubs and cafes for the wife and I.

Lived in Chiswick for a while working a high level finance role and always wanted to move across to Rozelle.

Loved catching ferrys on the harbor to work though.

 

[Chump Change]

What the f*** do the Duursma family feed their kids lol?

Meatbix.

 

[ArdentEagle]

WTF is this - BigSydney sub forum?


So Pants is an Eagles supporter, living in Sydney, who really is a double agent for the Kangas?
It's all starting to make sense now!!!

 

[ArdentEagle]

Meatbix.

This also happens to be Pants nickname in Sydney.

 

[Obeanie1]

That's the issue though. Who wants to lure a 28 year old home on big coin? We want to be in the ear of the early 20's players.

Not saying they won't come back, but it's not as cut and dried as just assuming they will. Feel like we've made that assumption on a lot of WA players and it hasn't aventuated (other than Kelly, who needed family support).

Can imagine moving back for grandparents is a big appeal. Issue is, as in my case, you marry a Sydney girl and have kids with them, their family is here (additionally my mother and brothers have since moved to Sydney).

Brockman is the one to lure back this trade period.

Twins under two. All their family in Perth.

Out of contract and yet to re-sign. IMO you don't do that if you have a young family to look after unless you have better options such as moving home and someone has made an offer.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Cheap and Sydney property prices do not normally get written down in the same sentence.

Yeah. Rozelle is $1900k, the equivalent suburb (inner east) in Perth is Maylands at $770k.

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[ziad]

Yeah. Rozelle is $1900k, the equivalent suburb (inner east) in Perth is Maylands at $770k.

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wel I could raise that a mil or two in Rozelle - personal taste I guess.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Yeah. Rozelle is $1900k, the equivalent suburb (inner east) in Perth is Maylands at $770k.

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I’ll be honest the price of housing does make me wince. It’s not entirely pleasant owing a stack to the bank.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Popping in as a Blues man and an avid fan of the draft, reckon our order for selections would be:

Reid - Obviously

Mckercher - We have everything in our midfield but a pacey runner to go with Walsh, currently imbalanced in that regard. We desperately need more run and footskills in our team and he's probably the best player for that along with Wilson.

Watson - Have had the worst small fwds in the comp for half a decade

Curtin - Rumours Lewis Young and Weitering don't get on, Young been dropped a few times this year and Weitering been notably better without him. Not sure what the go is with the two of them but could be someone we look at given his obvious talent.

Caddy - In need of a 3rd option up forward as we're likely to lose TDK and Silvagni

Duursma - Ideally he's the best option for us in this draft as a fast mid/fwd with great kicking skills but he just hasn't performed in the champs imo.

Sanders - Can't see us selecting him. We are stacked for big bulky inside mids and although a good player he wouldn't help our midfield at all.



Curtin in my opinion goes to either North or Hawthorn but if he slips through to us I reckon we take him. Freo not looking likely to win too many more games this year if they lose to us this weekend which would shoot Melbourne into top 5 pick calculations. I think if Mckercher is gone they'd take him too.
No way he gets past Sydney though if they finish low though, they're desperate for KPD.

Blues are a hard read, I think McKercher as a left footed mid would add to your midfield.
I can see Watson, as agree you lack small forwards.

Curtin big chance at North or Hawks for Curtin.

 

[CountryLad]

Does Curtin going East at a top pick depend on how he interviews or does that only count for Vic Metro kids?

 

[WCE_phil]

Does Curtin going East at a top pick depend on how he interviews or does that only count for Vic Metro kids?

It matters. Not as much but (particularly to melbourne based clubs) but it matters a lot. When you're talking about decisions that are made on very small factors deliberately blown interviews and stupid shit make a huge difference.

From what I know however Curtin is an absolute professional so I don't think he would be party to that. Hewitt basically lived, breathed and shat WCE pre-draft. It's why I genuinely thought he'd get through to the clubs third selection last year until draft day when it become clear if he was available late first round Essendon would do whatever needed to draft him.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Blues are a hard read, I think McKercher as a left footed mid would add to your midfield.
I can see Watson, as agree you lack small forwards.

Curtin big chance at North or Hawks for Curtin.

If Mckercher can work on his right peg enough to start using it in games he's really the perfect addition to our mix. Feel like we could be a major player for Gold Coasts pick using our future first and whatever we get for TDK, Silvagni, Fisher, Dow etc. We've got 2 F/S kids next year shaping up well so I'd imagine we'd be looking to potentially trade out of that draft and back into this one. Be bloody magical if we could snag Mckercher at 4 and Watson at 7-8 if we could get it from GC.

Difficult draft to predict though depending on where teams finish, feel like there will be a lot more needs based selections than simply best available.

To me the clear top 3 is Reid, Walter, Curtin.

Then Mckercher, Caddy, Watson, Sanders, Duursma, O'Sullivan and Read all pretty close equal but all very very different players.

Somewhat sucks for you guys though as I think it's going to be very very difficult to get to Curtin if you hang onto pick 1 which I suspect you will and just take Harley.

 

[Hawks_4478]

It matters. Not as much but (particularly to melbourne based clubs) but it matters a lot. When you're talking about decisions that are made on very small factors deliberately blown interviews and stupid s**t make a huge difference.

From what I know however Curtin is an absolute professional so I don't think he would be party to that. Hewitt basically lived, breathed and shat WCE pre-draft. It's why I genuinely thought he'd get through to the clubs third selection last year until draft day when it become clear if he was available late first round Essendon would do whatever needed to draft him.

Do you think Hewett would have been drafted much earlier if he hadn’t done this?

 

[Cornelius Roy]

It matters. Not as much but (particularly to melbourne based clubs) but it matters a lot. When you're talking about decisions that are made on very small factors deliberately blown interviews and stupid s**t make a huge difference.

From what I know however Curtin is an absolute professional so I don't think he would be party to that. Hewitt basically lived, breathed and shat WCE pre-draft. It's why I genuinely thought he'd get through to the clubs third selection last year until draft day when it become clear if he was available late first round Essendon would do whatever needed to draft him.

Someone get the kid a vape

 

[ROO DOGG]

I read on one of the draft boards that Walter is a WC fan. Any chance he turns his back on Gold Coast if we guarantee we take him with pick 1? Not shure if its my preference because I've been in the pick Read camp for so long but he is closing the gap and is a huge unit for a key forward. Him and Oscar would be Jiz worthy.

 

[Keys]

I read on one of the draft boards that Walter is a WC fan. Any chance he turns his back on Gold Coast if we guarantee we take him with pick 1? Not shure if its my preference because I've been in the pick Read camp for so long but he is closing the gap and is a huge unit for a key forward. Him and Oscar would be Jiz worthy.

Walter is an academy kid as opposed to a father/son so what he wants is largely irrelevant as Gold Coast can match any bid. He’ll be at the Suns next year

If they can keep King beyond 2024 that’s a pretty scary forward half combo

 

[Keys]

It matters. Not as much but (particularly to melbourne based clubs) but it matters a lot. When you're talking about decisions that are made on very small factors deliberately blown interviews and stupid s**t make a huge difference.

From what I know however Curtin is an absolute professional so I don't think he would be party to that. Hewitt basically lived, breathed and shat WCE pre-draft. It's why I genuinely thought he'd get through to the clubs third selection last year until draft day when it become clear if he was available late first round Essendon would do whatever needed to draft him.

Would Tholstrup be worth selecting with pick 19 if he’s still on the board and if so maybe he could be similar to Hewett as I believe he’s an Eagles supporter

 

[JackOutback]

Keys I would be reluctant to trade our F1 for Curtin this year ( and that hurt typing as I am a massive fan of him ), as our midfield still needs a lot of work and the mids available next year early in the draft, already have my attention : Smith, Smillie and Draper in no particular order.
I am expecting our first round pick to be in the first four picks next year,

The only thing that would change my thinking is "IF" and it's a massively big IF , Curtain came back to Claremont and blitzed it as a midfielder.

At this point in time I see Curtain as being an A grade defender at the next level, with occasional cameo roles elsewhere, given his versatile skill set.

I actually don't see him as a KPP, he is only 195cm and unless he has a significant growth spurt, I see him as a very attacking and accurate HBF.

IMO he will be very much in the Grant Burchell style, having the ability to also use his run and carry to bring the ball deep into the attacking area and deep into the forward 50.
With his sublime foot skills any forward would be licking their chops at the thought of that sort of ball delivery.

Sadly I think at this point in time we have to pass on efforts to get Curtin in this draft ..... bide our time and lure him home latter.

As things stand with picks right here and now I would like us to back ourselves and just draft the best player available and I think we all know who holds pole position.
I am confident that with our two second round picks we also get good players.

Our drafting in 2021 and 2022 has been encouraging and the group of kids that we have drafted in look to be a solid start to the rebuild.
We are IMO only half way into our draft centred rebuild and the success /or not, of the 2023 & 2024 intake will go a long way to determine just how quickly we are able to turn the s**t show around.

I mean, next year, couldn’t we just trade our 2025 first to get back into the first round of 2024?

 

[3agles87]

We don't know anything. That was my point.

I'm actually not on either side of the should he stay or should he go discussion. Trading Barrass in isolation won't fast track your rebuild, as you probably need to add an extra three first round picks over the next two or three drafts to genuinely fast track your rebuild.

Mostly I've commented on what other posters here have said they believe Barrass is worth.

You have also commented on Sydney’s motivation to pay (i.e. not pay overs), so on the one hand you want to say we don’t know anything but on the other you comment as if you have some better knowledge about fair value and what Sydney will be willing to pay. As I said, people talk based on rumour, your commentary does not hold any additional validity just because it claims to be impartial.

Personally, my view is that if Sydney is chasing Barrass they probably already have a deal in mind they think might satisfy the Eagles. Whether anyone thinks that is overs or not is irrelevant, they are a professional organisation and not in the habit of starting something they don’t think they can finish in a reasonable way.

 

[ROO DOGG]

Walter is an academy kid as opposed to a father/son so what he wants is largely irrelevant as Gold Coast can match any bid. He’ll be at the Suns next year

If they can keep King beyond 2024 that’s a pretty scary forward half combo

I also read he can choose to go to goldcoast or not but not shure the if true?

 

[Chump Change]

Someone get the kid a vape

Let's not be risky. Some fits and some heroin.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Do you think Hewett would have been drafted much earlier if he hadn’t done this?

I can say this from what I heard, he did not want to leave Perth. His family is Eagles and I get the sense he would have returned home sooner or later.