List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

[Keys]

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2024 List Changes : Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew, Baker Requested Trades - Barrass, Darling Current contract status (Updated 18/9/24) : Total 41 Players (Pending Trades) - Main List (35) Rookie List (4) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2028 (2) : Liam Duggan (11/12/96) - Signed a 4 year...

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[GinniAndTonic]

It could be that simple if we needed to dump salary, which we don’t. Or he’s out of contract at the end of the year, which he isn’t.

Liam Ryan is an All Australian and a wonderful kick of the ball. He was one of our most damaging players earlier in the year before he was injured and looked to be in top shape, despite what some say on here about his training.

He’s also young enough to be part of the next flag push in 5 or so years so unless trading him nets us a top quality youngster or picks that contribute to that there is zero benefit to letting him go.

I agree he’s a super talent and i’d love him at the hawks. But no club is paying anything in the top 20 for Ryan coming off basically a whole year off. What would you pay for Mitch Georgiades?

 

[GinniAndTonic]

We will take Josh Ward + #33 and give you Ryan + #55

I think you west coast lot are definitely overvaluing your own player as we all can from time to time. But I can guarantee you that you won’t be getting anything in the top 20 from us or anyone else.

 

[dinnaz]

Brockman would be in your top 10 players. Not that that’s saying much.

Im sure his 0.9 goals and 2 tackles a game are absolutely match defining

 

[Farang83150]

I think you west coast lot are definitely overvaluing your own player as we all can from time to time. But I can guarantee you that you won’t be getting anything in the top 20 from us or anyone else.

I agree, something around the mid 20's is fair.

 

[ThePuma #9]

I agree he’s a super talent and i’d love him at the hawks. But no club is paying anything in the top 20 for Ryan coming off basically a whole year off. What would you pay for Mitch Georgiades?

Well Georgiades doesn’t want to come back west so it’s a moot point but IF he did want to return I would think an early second would be his value due to his age profile and the fact talls always get that little bit more in a trade deal.

However he’s coming off a knee reco, out of contract, has been dropped multiple times by Port and we have an axe to grind with Port over Rioli so it would have been more likely a late second or early third or PSD threat.

As for any club not offering up a top 20 for Ryan, if this is the case then I can’t think of one good reason why we’d ship him out, can you?

 

[pantskyle]

Sorry to intrude but it could be as simple as a future second plus a few later pick swaps. There is absolutely no chance we include 3 in the deal.

Welcome, you've come in peace.

Brockman would be in your top 10 players. Not that that’s saying much.

You sonofabitch

 

[WCEConnor23]

WTF do you want DGB ?

Worse player than Rotham and he is a player that I would like us to move on.

/DGB would rather the pick. Just spitballin.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

Welcome, you've come in peace.


You sonofabitch

Haha sorry I saw the shot and took it

But seriously do you lot think a 26 year old Ryan who has been injured all year is worth more than a 22 year old Izak Rankine?

 

[Keys]

Luckily you don’t make the rules.

I do make the rules here though

Brockman would be in your top 10 players. Not that that’s saying much.

So mind your manners

 

[WCEConnor23]

Yuck.
DGB and Brockman are pretty much in the de-list pile at hawthorn.

On reflection i agree. Hard to gauge what a trade might look like with Hawthorn.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

Well Georgiades doesn’t want to come back west so it’s a moot point but IF he did want to return I would think an early second would be his value due to his age profile and the fact talls always get that little bit more in a trade deal.

However he’s coming off a knee reco, out of contract, has been dropped multiple times by Port and we have an axe to grind with Port over Rioli so it would have been more likely a late second or early third or PSD threat.

As for any club not offering up a top 20 for Ryan, if this is the case then I can’t think of one good reason why we’d ship him out, can you?

Do you think Ryan is worth more than Izak Rankine? Because that’s what you lot are suggesting

 

[dinnaz]

I think you west coast lot are definitely overvaluing your own player as we all can from time to time. But I can guarantee you that you won’t be getting anything in the top 20 from us or anyone else.

If Ryan was theoretically available- What pick would you use to take him in this upcoming draft?

 

[Keys]

Haha sorry I saw the shot and took it

But seriously do you lot think a 26 year old Ryan who has been injured all year is worth more than a 22 year old Izak Rankine?

Find one post that’s said that

 

[WCEConnor23]

I think you west coast lot are definitely overvaluing your own player as we all can from time to time. But I can guarantee you that you won’t be getting anything in the top 20 from us or anyone else.

We will keep him then.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

If Ryan was theoretically available- What pick would you use to take him in this upcoming draft?

Honestly not top 20 considering he has hardly played all year and is 27

 

[GinniAndTonic]

If Ryan was theoretically available- What pick would you use to take him in this upcoming draft?

Ryan Burton was supposed to go top 5 in his draft but didn’t due to injuries slid out to 17 I think it was. But he was also 18 not 27.

 

[pantskyle]

Haha sorry I saw the shot and took it

But seriously do you lot think a 26 year old Ryan who has been injured all year is worth more than a 22 year old Izak Rankine?

I actually agree that your future 2nd would be involved, but daresay we'd want someone else as well, maybe dogs pick and we send something later back.

Saying that I'd be surprised if the story is true.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

We will keep him then.

But you won’t because both us and you guys have a good relationship. Very very rarely do you see a club hold onto a player that wants to go.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

I actually agree that your future 2nd would be involved, but daresay we'd want someone else as well, maybe dogs pick and we send something later back.

Saying that I'd be surprised if the story is true.

That is exactly what I said at the start and got shot down for it.

To be honest I also doubt it’s true.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Heard some Curtin news this morning, the appreciation from a certain club is at high levels and direct touching may have occurred.
No chance he lasts past 3 if a certain club has that along with 2.

Curtin seems like a very loyal type too, ultimate professional. Once drafted he wouldn't leave.

 

[Spooky17]

Who is this Hawks Kent taking snipes at our players and list?

Ryan, who is contracted, is worth more than a future second and some meaningless late pick swaps.

He is also not worth pick three.

Therefore, he value lies somewhere in between. Perhaps a very late first.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to lose him. Genuine gun when he’s on.

 

[WCEConnor23]

But you won’t because both us and you guys have a good relationship. Very very rarely do you see a club hold onto a player that wants to go.

I'm not sure it's the player that wants to go. It's more likely a trade could be mutually beneficial for both clubs.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Do you think Ryan is worth more than Izak Rankine? Because that’s what you lot are suggesting

Who has suggested that?

 

[GinniAndTonic]

I'm not sure it's the player that wants to go. It's more likely a trade could be mutually beneficial for both clubs.

Could be I guess time will tell. But to be honest I seriously doubt he leaves.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

Who has suggested that?

Some of your posters saying pick 3