List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew, Baker Requested Trades - Barrass, Darling Current contract status (Updated 18/9/24) : Total 41 Players (Pending Trades) - Main List (35) Rookie List (4) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2028 (2) : Liam Duggan (11/12/96) - Signed a 4 year...

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[Big_Birdy]

Also, with all the frothing over Hewett, it looks like people have indeed forgotten Culley.

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Hewett due to the lower number of games is affected more by low stat games. How often was Culley sub? Hewett was sub 3 or 4 times wasnt he? Also, his stats would be affected by getting knocked out in the first 10 minutes by DeGoey.

Regardless, agree Culley looks a gun.

 

[bzparkes]

Hewett due to the lower number of games is affected more by low stat games. How often was Culley sub? Hewett was sub 3 or 4 times wasnt he? Also, his stats would be affected by getting knocked out in the first 10 minutes by DeGoey.

Regardless, agree Culley looks a gun.

Hewett's played 2 more games.

Of course, he was knocked out in one of those.

The post wasn't to disparage Hewett in any way shape or form though. More to point out to the poster that Culley isn't deficient in the areas he thinks he is.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Hewett's played 2 more games.

Of course, he was knocked out in one of those.

The post wasn't to disparage Hewett in any way shape or form though. More to point out to the poster that Culley isn't deficient in the areas he thinks he is.

Oh I know. I didn't mean it to sound like it was.

 

[JackOutback]

Sweet's 25 and Bryan's 22, both younger than English. Doubt either would come if we're selling them a stop gap for a year position.

They are back-up ruckmen, that's their lot in life, they are on standby for injuries and in some cases, like Vardy, they become premiership players. The Eagles aren't going to hold off on grabbing what they consider an A-grade ruck because they have a C-grade one on the list.

 

[shooshka]

Hewett due to the lower number of games is affected more by low stat games. How often was Culley sub? Hewett was sub 3 or 4 times wasnt he? Also, his stats would be affected by getting knocked out in the first 10 minutes by DeGoey.

Regardless, agree Culley looks a gun.

Different players as well.

Having Culley + Ginbey as mids who can balance attack with defence will match well with guys like Hewett and (hopefully) Reid who are generally more offensive than defensive.



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[Big_Birdy]

They are back-up ruckmen, that's their lot in life, they are on standby for injuries and in some cases, like Vardy, they become premiership players. The Eagles aren't going to hold off on grabbing what they consider an A-grade ruck because they have a C-grade one on the list.

Couldn't agree more. The mix is perfect. Ginbey, Reid and Hewett all appear to have some aerial prowess too.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I think that there are a variety of reasons that Payton has slid.

1. He is not a pure KPD Height wise more a tweener.
2.a. Yes the SA champs hurt him somewhat as they really underperformed as a unit.
2.b. His academy games have been pretty good, so that negates point 2 somewhat for me.
3. He plays a conservative no frills unsexy style of football and as such doesn’t appeal to the fan boys as much as some others.

IMO he will be a 200 game player for whoever calls his name out.

Where as Hardeman for me hasn’t got any standout qualities but is good at most things, IMO he is a safe pick but I don’t see him as value at 19.

I see Torrent having just as many AFL qualities as Hardeman but he gets very little love on draft boards.

Having said all that, our recruiters have shown previously that they have a liking for safe picks and will go that way more often than taking a boom or bust player.

By way of example I would take Moir ahead of Hardeman, but I doubt that our recruiters would.

If Hardeman is there at our 2nd which will end up 24-25 we should take him but I think he will go before then .

I like moir I think his forward game will translate into the midfield with his power and kicking abilities its a shame his production hasn't transitioned this year and is probably why he has dropped .

1 Reid , 19 Hardeman, 33 moir ?

 

[Doashuey]

Nice highlights package of the younger Jiath but there’s an academy application pending for him to be able to join his brother at Hawthorn who was also a NGA apparently

There was also this in the linked article



Whilst we’re looking at using 4-5 picks, a number of clubs may only be using as few as 2 live picks

Means those late picks of ours in the fifties aren’t going to be worth much in any trade negotiations that aren’t accumulating points

Maybe we can find another Long late in the draft this year when the other clubs are packing up

Hmm, maybe but it's a long shot.

 

[amazingjoshy]

They are back-up ruckmen, that's their lot in life, they are on standby for injuries and in some cases, like Vardy, they become premiership players. The Eagles aren't going to hold off on grabbing what they consider an A-grade ruck because they have a C-grade one on the list.

Reckon thats harsh on Bryan who i reckon can play, but maybe we've take the view that rucks just aren't that important and why spend up big on them? At least that's what I'm hoping. Plus 5 rucks on the list is too many imo

Also would be pretty weird for Sweet to come over to get away from being English's backup, only for English to come over a year later

 

[DanWCE]

Also would be pretty weird for Sweet to come over to get away from being English's backup, only for English to come over a year later

He would be Sweet and Sour

 

[Cuzz09]

Is there any way we can get Walter?

Obv it would mean giving up Reid

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[Schtinker]

If Hardeman is there at our 2nd which will end up 24-25 we should take him but I think he will go before then .

I like moir I think his forward game will translate into the midfield with his power and kicking abilities its a shame his production hasn't transitioned this year and is probably why he has dropped .

1 Reid , 19 Hardeman, 33 moir ?

I'd still be happy to split 19. I think the 2nd Round is quite even across the board.

 

[Spooky17]

Is there any way we can get Walter?

Obv it would mean giving up Reid

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Technically yes - we bid on him and GC doesn’t match.

He is an Eagles fan, but no chance GC doesn’t match.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

On what I have seen no AFL team would take him, played one decent game in the forward line without a decent defender and can't play midfield due to being "ball blind".

You haven't a clue.

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[eaglesnutcase]

Xon shouldn't be used at all.

Well if he’s gunna play that’s the only area he excels in. And I use that word loosely

 

[Forward Press]

Is there any way we can get Walter?

Obv it would mean giving up Reid

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Rawlings reflects on being involved in the AFL’s most infamous trade deal

“There were some underhanded tactics that occurred…”

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tl;dr underhanded deal to trade a spare parts player in return for a promise not to pick up a player.

 

[Elite Pete]

Eagles on the hunt for rucks as Nic Nat still undecided

West Coast are reportedly eyeing ready-made ruckmen Jordon Sweet and Nick Bryan to add big-man depth to their squad as Nic Naitanui could make a call on his career in ‘the next couple of weeks’.

thewest.com.au

Can't access but the important bits in the title anyway. Might quell the English speculation if we get one of Sweet or Bryan

Hope we get Bryan.

Not sure what he costs in a trade

 

[ArdentEagle]

Hope we get Bryan.

Not sure what he costs in a trade

I don't mind him either but with the Ginger Ninja retirement, I think he'll re-sign.

Briggs could be another or maybe Mumford MK2 from VFL

 

[amazingjoshy]

I don't mind him either but with the Ginger Ninja retirement, I think he'll re-sign.

Briggs could be another or maybe Mumford MK2 from VFL

Briggs is their number 1 guy now. More chance of Flynn since they still have Pruess as backup.

 

[random260]

No more rucks we got the best ruck in his draft pool.

Why would we want to go with second best ruck on this year draft pool

 

[eaglesnutcase]

I really wouldn’t know but gut says. Culley loves us.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Briggs is their number 1 guy now. More chance of Flynn since they still have Pruess as backup.

I'd still like a bruiser like Crossley. He could rotate forward with Williams.

Bash and crash + leap and heap. A dynamic combo

 

[briztoon]

It’s crazy, but that is also hugely to our benefit.

Suggestions are the draft could see 55-60 players taken. So 3.3ish players per team average. A few teams will take 2 picks in, a lot will take 3. A few more may take 4 and only a couple (us included) will have 5+ list spots open.

Because we will have a number of available rookie spots as well we should have up to 7 ‘live’ points carrying picks we can take in.

Something to work with there with the teams chasing points.


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Rookie list spots don't count towards the national draft.

If you have 5 senior list spots available, then you can take 5 picks to the national draft.

If you have a further 2 rookie spots available, they only count in the rookie draft.

 

[southcoast]

Dunno where you heard that from. Nisbett this week said he expects him to sign a new contract in the next 2 months.

Nizzy was confident Rioli was gunna re-sign last year too.

That was before the wheels fell off the deal.

Just sayin.


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[bzparkes]

Nizzy was confident Rioli was gunna re-sign last year too.

That was before the wheels fell off the deal.

Just sayin.


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A bit different. I don't think Rioli ever formally entered contract negotiations, just had one in front of him.

Nisbett's comments about Culley were pretty definitive. Add to that Gavin Bell mentioned a couple of weeks ago that they were looking to extend.

I think Rhino also mentioned when Culley went back for his ACL that he was keen to stay at WCE and was seeking a new contract.