List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Pick 3, Hawthorn’s future first and Brockman for pick 1?

Assuming North don’t get pick 3 for McKay.

(Yes, I know we could walk Brockman to the PSD. But how likely is that, in all honesty?)

 

[Godfather32]

I don’t like it myself, just trying to come up with what would interest the club to trade pick 1.

I am all for keeping pick 1.

Yeah I'm with you, nothing they have really interests me, pick 6 is too low to be that useful to us

 

[MaxHunt]

Pick 3, Hawthorn’s future first and Brockman for pick 1?

Assuming North don’t get pick 3 for McKay.

(Yes, I know we could walk Brockman to the PSD. But how likely is that, in all honesty?)

Where is pick 3 coming from?

 

[MrKennedy17]

Speculating here.

1. The club won't entertain any offer that doesn't include the means of getting Curtin. Only way we're overlooking Reid, is for him. So I daresay melb, or any other club with a "godfather offer" can GTFO.

2. The idea of "loading up on 3rd rounders and getting whatever we can" is silly when we're likely only taking 4, at most 5 picks in this draft and our 4th selection is currently pick 38. Unless we lose some of our first 4 picks through trading (unlikely given who we've been linked to), or get a juicy offer for pick 19, you'd assume we won't be adding to our current draft hand.

Oh do you remember Liam Ryan draft? 2017.
How many NGA's do we have to draft?
C'mon short memory is indeed short.
What is the point in having NGA and not being able to draft them? We need 2nd rounders or 3rds to package up to move to 2nds.

Collard, Livingstone etc. We best be getting Collard. Who knows how Liam Ryan bounces back after 2 Hamstring Tendon surgeries in a season.

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Where is pick 3 coming from?

Hawthorn.

 

[southcoast]

Grundy I don't mind. I like him as a packet of chipsn

On Grundy - I see possibility of him moving for high draft pick which then gets offered as part of deal for pick one.

Just guessing really but…….


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[Godfather32]

Pick 3, Hawthorn’s future first and Brockman for pick 1?

Assuming North don’t get pick 3 for McKay.

(Yes, I know we could walk Brockman to the PSD. But how likely is that, in all honesty?)

I don't like it....but I don't hate it either. 100% better than anything I imagine Melbourne will come up with

 

[random260]

Pick 3, Hawthorn’s future first and Brockman for pick 1?

Assuming North don’t get pick 3 for McKay.

(Yes, I know we could walk Brockman to the PSD. But how likely is that, in all honesty?)

Opposition players tend to rate their player highly and we seem to swallow it. Narkle was marketed as second round pick to 3rd and he was delisted by the end.

Caution needs to be applied.

 

[Nuffington Post]

Pick 3, Hawthorn’s future first and Brockman for pick 1?

Assuming North don’t get pick 3 for McKay.

(Yes, I know we could walk Brockman to the PSD. But how likely is that, in all honesty?)

This makes me nervous given the Hawks form, and the potential for their future first to be something around pick 10.


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[Miguel Sanchez]

I don't like it....but I don't hate it either. 100% better than anything I imagine Melbourne will come up with

Would you take it, or stick with pick 1?

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

I don’t think Walker is a nine goal forward on Gov.

I reckon Gov knew the script (it was better for us to lose) and played within himself.

Has anyone confirmed that Gov is injured? Otherwise, if any player decides to play a script in game with the understanding a loss is better than he needs to go.

We need competitors who hate losing more than they love winning.

Trade scenario's i'd be open to

Trade 1 for 2 and 3

Offer North our future first for 2 and take Curtin

We give up pick 1 and potentially top 2 pick next year for only 2 and 3?

I’ll be wanting 2, 3, their R2 and future R2.

 

[MaxHunt]

Hawthorn.

So pick 4 and really pick 5.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

So pick 4 and really pick 5.

Pick 3, Hawthorn’s future first and Brockman for pick 1?

Assuming North don’t get pick 3 for McKay.

(Yes, I know we could walk Brockman to the PSD. But how likely is that, in all honesty?)

 

[Godfather32]

Would you take it, or stick with pick 1?

As long as Reid's knee is 100% I'd stick with pick 1 and work out a separate trade for Brockman.
But if ROB is going to do something with pick 1, other than use it in the draft, this is probably one of the most realistic and least annoying suggestions that I've seen so far. Could potentially on-trade it to get another pick in the first round this year as well.

 

[WCEConnor23]

Has anyone confirmed that Gov is injured? Otherwise, if any player decides to play a script in game with the understanding a loss is better than he needs to go.

We need competitors who hate losing more than they love winning.



We give up pick 1 and potentially top 2 pick next year for only 2 and 3?

I’ll be wanting 2, 3, their R2 and future R2.

No separate trades

1 for 2 and 3

Keep 1 offer future first for 2, take Reid and Curtin

 

[Godfather32]

No separate trades

1 for 2 and 3

Keep 1 offer future first for 2, take Reid and Curtin

There is virtually no chance that North Melbourne do either of those trades

 

[EagleEgo]

AFL confirms dates for 2023 AFL Trade and Draft period - AFL confirms dates for 2023 AFL Trade and Draft period

Still 3 months to argue about who to pick

 

[MaxHunt]

It's still a poor deal. Hawthorn are expected to rise a few spots next year. Anything over pick 2 will drop back another pick due to Walter. Values Brockman between 28 and 40 (which is about right) but there is no premium there for giving up a generational player.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

They need to remove top 40 matching for the Northern academies.
Or as a compromise only allow matching outside of the top 25 or something.
The draft is becoming compromised beyond acceptable limits.
Will be worse when Tassie joins the comp.
All players should be available to all teams apart from father sons.

 

[UseR2006]

The only 2 times we have held Pick 1 (not inluding the year where GWS wiped out spoon pick) we did not trade it and selected players in Gardiner and Banfield.

Think we will likely keep the pick and use it.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

The only 2 times we have held Pick 1 (not inluding the year where GWS wiped out spoon pick) we did not trade it and selected players in Gardiner and Banfield.

Think we will likely keep the pick and use it.

We traded for pick 1 both those years.

Prior to last year no one had traded pick 1 for 20 years.

 

[UseR2006]

As long as Reid's knee is 100% I'd stick with pick 1 and work out a separate trade for Brockman.
But if ROB is going to do something with pick 1, other than use it in the draft, this is probably one of the most realistic and least annoying suggestions that I've seen so far. Could potentially on-trade it to get another pick in the first round this year as well.

Reids knee is fine, was a minor jarring and they decided just to be extra cautious.

 

[UseR2006]

We traded for pick 1 both those years.

Prior to last year no one had traded pick 1 for 20 years.

So the odds we suddenly just trade it are extremely low.

 

[Tugga27]

You fail to mention he never takes the best forward usually a favourable match up so he can zone off .

Schofield and barrass take the hard match ups

He seemed to go alright on Naughton last week.

 

[JackOutback]

Tell them to van Rooyen for picks. We already have maric and Waterman.

Grundy I don't mind. I like him as a packet of chipsn

That’s like saying we don’t need Warner, we already have Sheed and Gaff. Maric might turn out very good but one is clearly better than the other two.