List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

[Keys]

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SSP signing dates

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

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JW is certainly a better ruck body wise around the ground but he doesn’t have BW leap.
Miochek is finished and Mcstay ( when he’s on the park ) is average. Cox just has sheer size but can’t kick more than [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]m.

Hopefully the pies want to over pay for him then!

 

[Obeanie1]

Hopefully the pies want to over pay for him then!

Pies are a bunch of theives.

Publically state the draft is broken and just keeps trading in players on the cheap.

Geez I hope they spend 10 years rebuilding at some stage.

 

[eaglevision]

 

[Dylan82]

Questioned if he knows anything about the disappearance of Ryan Burrows.

 

[WCErevival]

Questioned if he knows anything about the disappearance of Ryan Burrows.

I think the appearance is more mystifying.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Rhino does have good club connections

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So the first of the many seesaw feelings with which F1 and F2 we opted to select - Curnow reported to be out of action for the next 5 months with an operation set for an ankle clean out

 

[Keys]

So the first of the many seesaw feelings with which F1 and F2 we opted to select - Curnow reported to be out of action for the next 5 months with an operation set for an ankle clean out

Minor cleanup on his knee - not being ruled out for start of the season

Cincotta is having hip surgery that will keep him out for 5 months

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Minor cleanup on his knee - not being ruled out for start of the season

Cincotta is having hip surgery that will keep him out for 5 months

It always should've been Carlton's.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

It always should've been Carlton's.

Yeah it’s interesting, Carlton are a quality team, but Sam Mitchell is a brilliant coach and suggestions that the hawks will slide is a bit of wishful thinking, Mitchell will be pushing hard for a premiership.

 

[bradee]

Anybody know if Harley Sparks is still training with us?
Wasn't he meant to be trying out for that SSP spot?

 

[Rowan18]

Yeah it’s interesting, Carlton are a quality team, but Sam Mitchell is a brilliant coach and suggestions that the hawks will slide is a bit of wishful thinking, Mitchell will be pushing hard for a premiership.

I think Mitchell showed a lot of immaturity in his reaction to Hinkley sledging Sicily in the final they lost. I feel Hawks are a bit ahead of themselves and will be learning a bit of humility this year.

Teams that surprise the comp tactically usually come back a bit the next year. We did in 2016, Pies did in 2024 and I suspect Hawks will.

The league is also very even, with about 8 teams filling the mid ranks, all being of similar quality (or all with large flaws), so things like injury and fixture make the difference between a home final and finishing 10th/11th. Hawks had an easy draw last year, they might not get that luxury this year.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

It always should've been Carlton's.

Carlton got the third easiest draw next year, Hawks got the fourth hardest.

Time will tell obviously but from that outcome we seemed to have made the right choice? Either way I can both teams either a spot or two or three above or below each other so I don't think it would be a catastrophic result either way.

Hawks had a god like run this year and teams will see them coming next year so I expect them to fall back a little.

 

[ROO DOGG]

Just found out Lachlan McGlade is WC NGA. Able to be drafted 2026.

What's the record for most indigenous player's on an AFL list at the same time?

Has a Basket ball background too. Bodes well.

 

[WCE777]

I think Mitchell showed a lot of immaturity in his reaction to Hinkley sledging Sicily in the final they lost. I feel Hawks are a bit ahead of themselves and will be learning a bit of humility this year.

Teams that surprise the comp tactically usually come back a bit the next year. We did in 2016, Pies did in 2024 and I suspect Hawks will.

The league is also very even, with about 8 teams filling the mid ranks, all being of similar quality (or all with large flaws), so things like injury and fixture make the difference between a home final and finishing 10th/11th. Hawks had an easy draw last year, they might not get that luxury this year.

100%

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I think Mitchell showed a lot of immaturity in his reaction to Hinkley sledging Sicily in the final they lost. I feel Hawks are a bit ahead of themselves and will be learning a bit of humility this year.

Teams that surprise the comp tactically usually come back a bit the next year. We did in 2016, Pies did in 2024 and I suspect Hawks will.

The league is also very even, with about 8 teams filling the mid ranks, all being of similar quality (or all with large flaws), so things like injury and fixture make the difference between a home final and finishing 10th/11th. Hawks had an easy draw last year, they might not get that luxury this year.

Did you also think Kevin Sheedy was immature throughout his career?

 

[Dylan82]

I think Mitchell showed a lot of immaturity in his reaction to Hinkley sledging Sicily in the final they lost. I feel Hawks are a bit ahead of themselves and will be learning a bit of humility this year.

Teams that surprise the comp tactically usually come back a bit the next year. We did in 2016, Pies did in 2024 and I suspect Hawks will.

The league is also very even, with about 8 teams filling the mid ranks, all being of similar quality (or all with large flaws), so things like injury and fixture make the difference between a home final and finishing 10th/11th. Hawks had an easy draw last year, they might not get that luxury this year.

I have a feeling that as a result of the Hawks want for pumping up their own tyres combined with the over-the-top love-fest that ensured from the media, that Hawthorn's approach will be given extra attention by opponents this off-season.

At some time later on I may cover it in greater detail, but essentially their gameplan is founded upon preventing the opposition from getting handball receives to move possession forward with pace.

In order to do this they (like most clubs) flood the corridor with numbers, but then also get their half forwards high up the ground, well outside the corridor into almost a true wing position. Their purpose is to prevent handball receives from occurring to the boundary side of the mark, ensuring that possession is forced towards a contested situation rather than facing a rapid chain that breaches the zone.

Conversely, those same high half forwards also act as offensive release valves, offering both the additional width to take possession around corridor zones to get it forward and presenting as dangerous options ahead of the ball on turnover.


The Hawks were able to do this throughout the season, escaping scrutiny by not being seen as a legitimate finals contender. For the seven matches from Round 19 prior to the Semi Final, Hawthorn averaged 72 points from turnover, which was 1st in the competition over that period.

They had won a final - the lid was off and suddenly it was time to put some belated work into pulling apart what they do.


So what was the response? Shut down those loose half forwards of course. K.Hinkley instructed his Port defenders to stay side-by-side with their Hawthorn counterparts wherever they went on the ground - effectively tag them.

It won Port the match and probably saved Hinkley's job for another year. J.Burgoyne, instructed to look after J.Ginnivan, was the best player on the ground. Hawthorn managed only 14 points from turnover, their lowest such total of the season.

Indeed, it was the only the second match of the season where none of the four of J.Ginnivan, N.Watson, J.Gunston and L.Bruest managed to get to 10 disposals - the other being Round 17 against Geelong at Kardinia Park (the narrowest ground in the competition), which was a 51 point loss.


I feel the Hawks will need to show a lot more tactically in 2025 in order to be successful. It doesn't take much to check runners coming in from the forward half and cover their width. After making a lot of noise in both the press and the trade period, the spotlight is going to be on Hawthorn now - they will be carrying a target on their back where there wasn't one before - often teams (particularly young ones) don't respond so well to becoming the hunted, rather than the hunter.


That F1 pick may end up being a wise investment.

 

[We_The_West]

I hope Mini is as tactically savvy as they say and I hope our athletic HB beasts in Ginbey, Hough and Allan crush those little Hawks HFs.

Also Snake to kick a bag on Barrass

 

[Shueygod]

Looking forward to the Chesser apology forms in 2025.

Hawks pick was the easy choice, both have similar ceilings but the hawks a much lower floor.

 

[Obeanie1]

Looking forward to the Chesser apology forms in 2025.

Hawks pick was the easy choice, both have similar ceilings but the hawks a much lower floor.

Its so refreshing to read a decent balanced outlook on Hawthorn.

And agree on Chesser. Contract year. No more defensive wing role. Overlapping run and gun tactics will suit him. Breakout year coming.......along with aplogies from some happy posters.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Its so refreshing to read a decent balanced outlook on Hawthorn.

And agree on Chesser. Contract year. No more defensive wing role. Overlapping run and gun tactics will suit him. Breakout year coming.......along with aplogies from some happy posters.

Geez I hope so. I'd love to see it because he offers something different to what we have, but I am one of those thats not holding their breath.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Looking forward to the Chesser apology forms in 2025.

Hawks pick was the easy choice, both have similar ceilings but the hawks a much lower floor.

Well stated on Hawks lower floor

What Chesser has demonstrated so far will need a massive change in role or a massive gift of football IQ for Christmas. He has all the attributes we need, just not the ability to read the play. I would be delighted to see him excel behind the ball on the hbf as that seems to be the last hope. His run and carry will depend on getting the ball and so far therein lies the problem

 

[Obeanie1]

Geez I hope so. I'd love to see it because he offers something different to what we have, but I am one of those thats not holding their breath.

Chesser was always a slow burn developing. Hopefully he his body has hardened up after getting continuity playing and racking up games and he is past the injury setbacks from u18s and the first couple of seasons.

He is slowly building his body and confidence. The excitement of a new more attacking game plan suits him and his attributes.

 

[Obeanie1]

Well stated on Hawks lower floor

What Chesser has demonstrated so far will need a massive change in role or a massive gift of football IQ for Christmas. He has all the attributes we need, just not the ability to read the play. I would be delighted to see him excel behind the ball on the hbf as that seems to be the last hope. His run and carry will depend on getting the ball and so far therein lies the problem

How does any player get lots of the ball playing the defensive wing role in the old game plan?

Running into the square to pick up the main mid so Harley or Kelly can run off and attack.

Give the kid the opportunity to accumulate and maybe he will.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Chesser is a prime example of the failings of the Beagles.

In an ideal world he'd drop back into a functioning Beagles, have a month of racking up the footballer and getting his confidence up, then step back up to the first team.

As it is, if he goes back to the Beagles, he'll spend the day watching the ball go over his head and get nowhere near it because we are a disaster.

Perth are insane not to jump on board with a partnership.