List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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SSP signing dates

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[mattyc75]

Whilst I was at the beach down south in Quindalup over the break the Warner family were set up next to me with a big gazebo thing having beers etc. All the boys were there (including the younger ones, Ashton?) and parents etc. They all seem very close - I'm not sure how many AFL players Chad's age were just chilling with their parents over New Years tbh. Wouldnt be at all suprised to see Chad come home given how close they all looked. Guess we'll see.

He'll definitely be home soon.

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[shoutsatclouds]

Reid's dog already our best dog.

Had Reid’s dog in my top five…

 

[WCE777]

Hasn’t had a train on. Had a foot injury at the draft which scared a lot of teams off, Swans also surprisingly chose not to match the bid for Cochrane when Pies were also keen on Dennis. Unlikely to get much bigger but a big chance to go in the MSD with a good start in the league for Claremont.

18yo kids would normally grow 2-4cm over next couple of years, definitely would get bigger imo.
Shame had a foot injury, is it bad or normal foot injury?
195cm all Australian CHB is surely big enough?

 

[WCE777]

Nah no idea, what's his first name?

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Anthony Davis, plays for Claremont 24yo, 196cm KDEF, played state 16's and 18's and played 76 league games.
Plays like Gov, very athletic KDEF and huge tank imo.

 

[WCE777]

A fothergill medalist going around wouldn't be the worst pick up either

??

 

[WCE777]

It was Bont

100%

 

[WCE777]

He'll definitely be home soon.

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agree, lock it in

 

[stallon]

??

Phillips presumably

 

[eaglevision]

18yo kids would normally grow 2-4cm over next couple of years, definitely would get bigger imo.
Shame had a foot injury, is it bad or normal foot injury?
195cm all Australian CHB is surely big enough?

He won’t.

In the modern game it’s a bit undersized but HEdwards is tall enough to take the monster forwards if that was the KPD pairing plan. No issues with the foot recovery.

 

[WCE777]

He won’t.

In the modern game it’s a bit undersized but HEdwards is tall enough to take the monster forwards if that was the KPD pairing plan. No issues with the foot recovery.

??
most of the better KDEF's in the league are between 197 and 202cm?
Surely he would make an intercepting KDEF at that height at worst?

 

[bzparkes]

??
most of the better KDEF's in the league are between 197 and 202cm?
Surely he would make an intercepting KDEF at that height at worst?

The All Australian FB is 195.

Steven May and Jacob Lever are 1.9 and 1.94 respectively.

Others are similar.

It seems fans are overly concerned about the King brothers and others of similar height, when really it's only them and Harry McKay that are of any major concern, height-wise, now that Daniher's retired.

Anyone else at that height isn't really worth worrying about currently.

Much more important for defenders to be able to read the play, have closing speed and the strength to position themselves favourably in a 1v1 than simply be tall.

Don't get me wrong, height is clearly an advantage but it's useless if they can't get the other things right first.

 

[Keys]

Would be more than happy if we looked at Clancy Dennis, or another young KPD, as a train on option but suspect the club is looking for a slightly older player to fill the last list spot.

No knowledge if that’s the case, just a gut feeling

 

[ArdentEagle]

??

Ethan Phillips mate.

 

[stallon]

??
most of the better KDEF's in the league are between 197 and 202cm?
Surely he would make an intercepting KDEF at that height at worst?

??

Bazzo is listed at 195cm.
Using the Swans again as an example, Mccartin is 194cm and Melican is 194cm
Geelong have Henry at 192cm and Kolodjashnij at 193cm as their #2 and #3 KPDs
Brisbane had Payne at 196cm taking the main KPFs

Hes definitely not undersized, he was always more of a #2 KPD anyway. Pair him with Edwards or something and itd be more than fine.

Sam Collins 194cm
Jack Buckley 195cm
Jake lever 194cm
Jacob Weitering 195cm

I think the emphasis on team defence reduces the likelihood of the pagans' paddock 1v1 KP battles and the lack of need for giant 200cm KPDs

We responded to you and you liked these comments yesterday bruh

 

[WCE777]

The All Australian FB is 195.

Steven May and Jacob Lever are 1.9 and 1.94 respectively.

Others are similar.

It seems fans are overly concerned about the King brothers and others of similar height, when really it's only them and Harry McKay that are of any major concern, height-wise, now that Daniher's retired.

Anyone else at that height isn't really worth worrying about currently.

Much more important for defenders to be able to read the play, have closing speed and the strength to position themselves favourably in a 1v1 than simply be tall.

Don't get me wrong, height is clearly an advantage but it's useless if they can't get the other things right first.

that was my point, he doesn't get named U18 all Australian CHB if he cant defend

 

[WCE777]

Would be more than happy if we looked at Clancy Dennis, or another young KPD, as a train on option but suspect the club is looking for a slightly older player to fill the last list spot.

No knowledge if that’s the case, just a gut feeling

agree with C Dennis, rookie spot even.
What do you know about Anthony Davis who plays or Claremont, 24yo 196cm KDEF played 76 games in league side.
Played U16's and U18's state squad and looks decent enough for a mature recruit.
Similar size to J Blight who was drafted in MSD by Richmond.

 

[chaddy22]

No idea who'll be available but KPDs are very similar to rucks they get delisted and pick up by another team straight away. Regardless of talent sometimes
What ever happened to Blake schlensog? Was really being talked up a few seasons ago to make a comeback but never happened

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Played for Perth this year

 

[BSD]

??
most of the better KDEF's in the league are between 197 and 202cm?
Surely he would make an intercepting KDEF at that height at worst?

Harry Edwards problem is that he's too slow off the mark and gets regularly turned inside out like a used pair of Reg Grundies. He can't match the monster forwards like Cameron, McKay and Curnow for speed. Even Treacy shows him up.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Harry Edwards problem is that he's too slow off the mark and gets regularly turned inside out like a used pair of Reg Grundies. He can't match the monster forwards like Cameron, McKay and Curnow for speed. Even Treacy shows him up.

I’ve seen oil tankers with smaller turning circles than Edwards.

 

[mattyc75]

Anthony Davis, plays for Claremont 24yo, 196cm KDEF, played state 16's and 18's and played 76 league games.
Plays like Gov, very athletic KDEF and huge tank imo.

Has he had injury issues?late bloomer? Must be some reason he's not made it yet

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[AsterixTheGaul]

That’s been my line of thought as well. I’d take Rodriguez and an elite in and under mid over Warner.

I have received some feedback that I may been a tad hostile with you. I was also not observant enough to associate your self-appointed tag of “Wannabe Draft Nuffie”.

Not being from Queensland, I was less knowledgeable of the term nuffie so I looked it up. AI tells me that nuffie is a derivative of the term of nuffy.



Sorry for not heeding the warning signs. I should have been more accommodating since this is not a cricket forum.

Given that, I have decided to turn negative energy into being your mentor and guide. I will try to provide you with feedback that you can learn from. I also realise that you have never played the game at a serious level, you have never coached or been in a development role, you have never been in list management, and you have never been a player agent management. I should say congratulations on taking on such a steep learning curve. I must add that not being able to go to games outside Brisbane has you also in a major disadvantage since the U18 games are usually only shown with a single camera and trying to get an understanding of the players football IQ and decision making are usually only able to be truly understood when attending games.

Therefore, I will encourage other poster to give you help when they see you can benefit from it.

Let us start with a really simple post. You wrote that Rodriguez is an elite in and under mid. I get what you mean and you are nearly there. Most football pundits in Victoria and WA that I know would tend to use the term inside mid, balanced mid or outside mid. The actions of being in and under would normally be associated with an inside mid. Maybe it is the rugby lenses you have over in Qld.

Time for your first lesson. I guess not being able attend games and see Fred at work would mean you need help in categorising him. To call him an inside mid is a little disrespectful. I rate Fred as the best balanced midfielder in the WA U18 system for some years. He has both an inside and an outside game. I say balanced mid as from my experience, these are the best possible midfielders and usually get drafted higher and earn more money. It is why the Warner offer is less likely to include the Rodriguez pick but indeed the Hawks R1 and a F1.

I trust lesson one was fruitful for you.

 

[mattyc75]

Harry Edwards problem is that he's too slow off the mark and gets regularly turned inside out like a used pair of Reg Grundies. He can't match the monster forwards like Cameron, McKay and Curnow for speed. Even Treacy shows him up.

Maybe his trip overseas to see to injury issue might’ve helped his athletic profile

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[briztoon]

I have received some feedback that I may been a tad hostile with you. I was also not observant enough to associate your self-appointed tag of “Wannabe Draft Nuffie”.

Not being from Queensland, I was less knowledgeable of the term nuffie so I looked it up. AI tells me that nuffie is a derivative of the term of nuffy.

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Sorry for not heeding the warning signs. I should have been more accommodating since this is not a cricket forum.

Given that, I have decided to turn negative energy into being your mentor and guide. I will try to provide you with feedback that you can learn from. I also realise that you have never played the game at a serious level, you have never coached or been in a development role, you have never been in list management, and you have never been a player agent management. I should say congratulations on taking on such a steep learning curve. I must add that not being able to go to games outside Brisbane has you also in a major disadvantage since the U18 games are usually only shown with a single camera and trying to get an understanding of the players football IQ and decision making are usually only able to be truly understood when attending games.

Therefore, I will encourage other poster to give you help when they see you can benefit from it.

Let us start with a really simple post. You wrote that Rodriguez is an elite in and under mid. I get what you mean and you are nearly there. Most football pundits in Victoria and WA that I know would tend to use the term inside mid, balanced mid or outside mid. The actions of being in and under would normally be associated with an inside mid. Maybe it is the rugby lenses you have over in Qld.

Time for your first lesson.

Apparently some of my language wasn’t kosher either. Keep up the condescending language, and I’ll put you on mute, works for both of us. Well me at least.

Otherwise, I’m happy for genuine discussion.

I guess not being able attend games and see Fred at work would mean you need help in categorising him. To call him an inside mid is a little disrespectful. I rate Fred as the best balanced midfielder in the WA U18 system for some years. He has both an inside and an outside game. I say balanced mid as from my experience, these are the best possible midfielders and usually get drafted higher and earn more money. It is why the Warner offer is less likely to include the Rodriguez pick but indeed the Hawks R1 and a F1.

Yes I know Fred possesses both a good inside game, and outside game. He played predominantly an outside role for WA in last year’s U18 Championships. I did watch all the games.

Has all the attributes to potentially develop in to a better mid than Warner.

 

[WCE777]

Has he had injury issues?late bloomer? Must be some reason he's not made it yet

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don't know

 

[ArdentEagle]