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Mega Thread Crows deal for Tippett lands them in hot water?
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The King!
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The crows have potentially made an illegal deal with him, how was that treating him with integrity
Ah yes, Adelaide is just dumb and misguided and everyone else is underhanded.
Pillars of integrity they are, 3 years down the track after Tippett has fulfilled his side:
ADELAIDE chairman Rob Chapman says the Crows board confessed to the AFL over the secret Kurt Tippet arrangement ''because it was the right thing to do''.
''There was no alternative here,'' Chapman told Adelaide radio station 5AA. ''The thought not to disclose never entered our mind and [Crows chief executive] Steven [Trigg] and I made that call straight away.''
Why would it have been??
"At some stage, I'll most likely go home."
"Fair enough, we'll do our best to get you to the Club you want."
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BTW; I was born in Sydney.
It's the cause of the shitfight.
The King!
Chosen One
I agree tippett has mislead them about where he wants to go
But the cause is still making an illegal agreement, which the crows did and if tippett suggested it the should of said f off
Now how many other clubs do basically the same thing without putting it in writing, or that never gets revealed, thats the other question of course.
Dagless
Hall of Famer
(Some) Swans fans are worse than goldfish...
Swear we had this conversation 10 pages ago, but it's all just vanished from their minds.
Swear we had this conversation 10 pages ago, but it's all just vanished from their minds.
At some stage I'd like to go home too. That's country NSW. But while I'm still working, there's bugger all chance. Take the blinkers off and listen to what he said last year again.
Don't try and reframe the discussion.
I'm ashamed and disgusted of what the Crows have done here - disgraceful behavior from a supposedly professional and honest Club; but the 'agreement' with Tippett was clearly made with the understanding that when he left the Crows, it would be to go home.
You guys dodged a bullet anyway; his father sounds like a lunatic - ask the Adelaide Lightning why they didn't sign his daughter.
And I believe the Board was unaware of the agreement until Friday.
Trigg should have already stood down - or been sacked.
Trigg should have already stood down - or been sacked.
Sorry, I'm not reframing the discussion. I'm saying that Adelaide are showing they don't have integrity in both cases. They have none where their "agreement" with Tippett is concerned, they have none when it comes to coming clean, 3 years later, because it was the right thing to do.
I'd suggest basically all of them - we were just stupid enough to get strong armed into formalising it. And formalising it with a clause that cripples our ability to bargain in a trade.
Most Clubs operate in good faith, and if a player desperately wants to go home, most will do their best to make it happen - as they should. But most players don't **** their old Club over like Tippett has here.
What did he say last year?
Serious question, doesn't spring to mind...
I remember him saying the Gold Coast was home and he expected to return there at some stage; which he said immediately after signing his last contract.
The King!
Chosen One
Thats fair enough, i just dont buy the suggestion he bullied the crows into it essentially.
But if you look at the trade history you can see plenty of trades where its to send someone home, if its just that the crows shouldnt be in much trouble hopefully.
Yes surely Sydney will let him walk to the draft and all parties (Tippett and any club that wants him) will be hoping the AFL finishes the investigation and names Tippetts penalty before the draft so any club that drafts him knows what they are letting themselves in for.
That would be the most 'just' outcome. Adelaide are the biggest losers out of it but they deserve to be.
Sorry, I don't want to annoy Dagless by quoting a youtube vid that has been endlessly put forward by Adelaide supporters during the past 3 weeks.
I'm over this whole saga - good luck to whoever gets Tippett, you'll need it.
Agreed on the coming clean part; completely. Like I said, Trigg should have already been sacked.
Disagree on the other part; he's acted outside of the spirit/intent of the agreement, which invalidates it.
The King!
Chosen One
What's the bet if I look at your posting I'll be able to find something that says you think Bulcher and Ireland were hand in hand on this, yet you believe the Adelaide board had no idea about this agreement?
Didn't say that, but if it suits you better, Tippett and his management are stupid for proposing it or going along with it. Sydney are also stupid for proposing a deal that wouldn't pass scrutiny. There is no moral high ground in this saga, other than rescuing the off season from completely boring me to tears.
Disagree if the scenario is that Tippett was only involved in requesting a trade to the club of his choice.
It is not reasonable to expect players to have an intimate knowledge of the terms and conditions of the salary cap rules. It is why they have agents.
Who is to say that the extent of Tippett's knowledge is that he asked AFC to trade him to a club of his choice and that precedents such as Judd, Ablett etc lead him to believe that this was a reasonable request and not outside of the rules.
Obviously if there are side deals to brothers or other it gets murkier, however, Scully is an interesting precedent.
Upon discovery of the job for his Dad ,the penalty to the Giants was to include the salary under the cap. The discovery was not via a declaration from the Giants of the deal until it became public knowledge and the AFL then investigated.
No sanction to Scully.
Would appear to be a similar situation to Kurt.
I'm sure a Lawyer could argue and present enough evidence in the media demonstrating that the Tippett side deal (handshake or other) was in the pubic domain and the AFL should have investigated. Caro Wilson has been claiming it for some time.
If the AFL did investigate with the AFC and they continued to deny it's existence, surely the sanction would be directed at club and not player?
It's a fascinating situation. Can't wait to find out more.
I'd suggest the Board thought a Gentleman's Agreement existed - but nothing like this.
The King!
Chosen One
Again the deal sydney proposed only faced scrutiny if the crows agreed and it got lodged, each problem has involved adelaide saying yes
Cool story, do you also do non fiction? Caroline Wilson knew about this secret clause in August, 2011 and shared her knowledge with all of Australia but the AFC board did not know until last week. If they didn't know about it before August, 2011 they sure as hell should have made it their business to know about it after Wilson splashed it all over The Age. Your kidding yourself if you believe your board took over a year to ask Trigg "wtf is this clause shit we're hearing everywhere?" If they didn't ask the necessary questions in August, 2011 it's because they chose to look the other way and bury their collective heads in the sand. Knowledge of this not so secret deal went to the highest levels of the AFC, if you truly believe otherwise you have no idea.
Actually, it pretty much is what you said. You said Adelaide were dumb, but the Tippetts were manipulative.
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