Some further developments to the story in the video below:
Mod edit: it’s a must watch for anyone reading this thread.
Mod edit: it’s a must watch for anyone reading this thread.
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News Cyril and Shannyn Rioli speak to Caro - link to club statement in page 8
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Or says things the Boss likes.,
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Sure the AFL stuffed up. Kennett could have just said the security guards weren't properly trained for that job - we have to ensure this doesn't happen again.
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Luke Hodge speaking to GW on SEN about the 2013 incident. Essentially said that it wasn’t taken to the leadership group, so wasn’t dismissed in the manner reported.
Seemed to confirm that something was said, just that it wasn’t dismissed in the way reported.
Seemed to confirm that something was said, just that it wasn’t dismissed in the way reported.
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Hodge said he just heard about this, and spoke to a senior player who was there, got the offending player to talk to Cyril, apology was accepted so everyone moved on.
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Didn’t sound like that, sounded like the offended party was another indigenous player, and that a senior player spoke to the offending player and this other indigenous player, and that they buried the hatchet.
Odd that they didn’t seem to involve CR, but maybe they did but Luke didn’t mention it.
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This entire thread is effectively about mental health and inclusiveness and you use language like that. WTF?
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u have a problem with him calling, presumably Whateley, a nerdling?
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Sorry, didn’t mean to offend. I hadn’t read the thread, my mistake, and was just posting what I heard on SEN just then. Happy for it to be deleted or moved, genuinely meant no offence.
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Ohhhhhh, right, I see. I’ll change that bit. Again, apologies, was just using BF terminology.
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haha, good on ya for being level headed. On Hodge's comments, it seems like Caro used a fair bit of peotic license RE the 2013 story and its another black mark for her credibility.
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I think she would have used what Cyril gave her.
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Yeah thats an intersting point. I've got no idea what he was refernecing Hodge said Caro changed the story when more information came out but. But the incident seems to be fairly key to the criticisms of the club.
I'm all for change and improvement, but you have to get the facts right first.
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For anyone who wants to listen Luke Hodge (6.4.22)
Hodgey cleaning up the mess, years after he's left the joint. Great to see.
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Caro in the original article said it went to the leadership group then changed it to senior players
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Another poor decision by the club putting Jaeger up.
I applaud him for the effort and guts it takes to front up at this time but he should never have been put in that position.
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I applaud him for the effort and guts it takes to front up at this time but he should never have been put in that position.
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He is acting captain who else if not him?
Jaeger was fine. Spoke well.
From what I can tell from the Rioli article we know there was
1. a range of events (2013 comment; coaches’ comments about the First Nations players sticking together in meetings; no stand taken about the Goodes booing; Jeff’s ripped jeans comment) that unintentionally caused Rioli to feel upset, hurt, unsupported or to feel like an outsider.
From Hodge’s interview, we can ascertain that:
2. the 2013 incident was seemingly resolved at the time. The comment was uneducated. The apology was deemed as genuine and therefore the player who made the comment must have shown enough remorse to signal that he would have learned from this mistake. It was never taken to the leadership group as the players involved were content with the outcome.
We can write all of these events off easily one by one.
Alone, they’re only one piece of evidence, and all of the other evidence should show that “these guys have my back” so forget it.
Combining these events together, however, you may begin to lose the psychological battle of “should I trust these guys?” The evidence keeps piling up against them. Maybe the paranoia isn’t paranoia. “Maybe I shouldn’t trust them.” “My wife is hurt, that’s the final straw.”
1. a range of events (2013 comment; coaches’ comments about the First Nations players sticking together in meetings; no stand taken about the Goodes booing; Jeff’s ripped jeans comment) that unintentionally caused Rioli to feel upset, hurt, unsupported or to feel like an outsider.
From Hodge’s interview, we can ascertain that:
2. the 2013 incident was seemingly resolved at the time. The comment was uneducated. The apology was deemed as genuine and therefore the player who made the comment must have shown enough remorse to signal that he would have learned from this mistake. It was never taken to the leadership group as the players involved were content with the outcome.
We can write all of these events off easily one by one.
- The 2013 incident was an honest mistake that was forgiven and resolved
- The coaches only made innocuous comments about the Indigenous players sitting together because they wanted them to spread out across the playing group more so that there was one playing group instead of two.
- It wasn’t Hawthorn’s place to say something in regards to Goodes.
- Jeff’s comments are just a silly old man being a fool.
Alone, they’re only one piece of evidence, and all of the other evidence should show that “these guys have my back” so forget it.
Combining these events together, however, you may begin to lose the psychological battle of “should I trust these guys?” The evidence keeps piling up against them. Maybe the paranoia isn’t paranoia. “Maybe I shouldn’t trust them.” “My wife is hurt, that’s the final straw.”
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He did and reflected some questions regarding Jeff towards the board.
It didn’t sit right that he was placed in the firing line when others remain quiet.
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Pretty disappointing to see one of the major points of the article that the club has been dragged for is essentially not true. Well done to Luke for having the courage to stand up to false reporting. Unfortunate for all involved. Brings the entire integrity of the article into question I guess now.
Mmm - but that may not be the fault of Caro.
That may be the fact that Shannyn Rioli commented on that event to Caro. Shannyn wasn’t there and got her information off Cyril, who also wasn’t there.
She reported using Shannyn’s words regarding that 2013 incident.
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