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That looked bloody terrible, fingers crossed its not a bad injury and long-term layoff.
That looked bloody terrible, fingers crossed its not a bad injury and long-term layoff.
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No doubt he went to hospital for precautionary measures for his neck. His shoulder is definitely injured - you could see this by the way HE was holding it after the tackle and again how he supported his arm (thereby isolating the shoulder) as he was stretchered off.
No doubt he went to hospital for precautionary measures for his neck. His shoulder is definitely injured - you could see this by the way HE was holding it after the tackle and again how he supported his arm (thereby isolating the shoulder) as he was stretchered off.
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Got chicken winged and riden hard, the AFL need to make a move to stop the riding of a player who has no hands to support ground contact.
Got chicken winged and riden hard, the AFL need to make a move to stop the riding of a player who has no hands to support ground contact.
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In this situation the AFL have to get off their arse and keep the public informed when this sort of thing happens.
First, I want to know is he alright!!!
Thats all that matters!
In this situation the AFL have to get off their arse and keep the public informed when this sort of thing happens.
First, I want to know is he alright!!!
Thats all that matters!
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It was a disgusting, cowardly gang tackle. If you pulled that sort of shit in other sports, you'd be spending months on the sidelines through suspension.
It was a disgusting, cowardly gang tackle. If you pulled that sort of shit in other sports, you'd be spending months on the sidelines through suspension.
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ABC just said Danger was taken to Epworth Hospital for CT Scans on his NECK.....
ABC just said Danger was taken to Epworth Hospital for CT Scans on his NECK.....
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I had a mate who did his and my understanding is that the only way they'd know that early if it was a rotator cuff (without time for an MRI) would be if it was a bloody bad tear/snap, as Danger wouldn't be able to lift his arm. So it's either not that, or it's a bloody bad one. Though I'm no expert and I don't want to start a rumour. We will know soon enough.
Best of luck, Danger.
I had a mate who did his and my understanding is that the only way they'd know that early if it was a rotator cuff (without time for an MRI) would be if it was a bloody bad tear/snap, as Danger wouldn't be able to lift his arm. So it's either not that, or it's a bloody bad one. Though I'm no expert and I don't want to start a rumour. We will know soon enough.
Best of luck, Danger.
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100% agree with this and I think it is going to be the talk all week. In the NRL I'm pretty sure spear tackles are illegal and he got speared into the ground.
100% agree with this and I think it is going to be the talk all week. In the NRL I'm pretty sure spear tackles are illegal and he got speared into the ground.
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Two issues from my perspective:
1. A player gets clearly and sickeningly spear tackled into the ground by THREE opponents and the unpires saw nothing/do nothing? This is completely unacceptable play in any sport and EXTREMELY dangerous - not just in AFL. The AFL needs to take a really serious look at this incident and not be frightened to throw the book at the perpetrators - if Dangerfield has broken/damaged his neck then a years suspension for all three is not unwarranted IMO. These are professional footballers who are so skilled this should not happen - ever.
2. The silence some hours later IMO is likely to be bad news either way for an very talented young man.
Pray people - and for supporters of other teams - take note and pray it never happens again - to anyone.
Two issues from my perspective:
1. A player gets clearly and sickeningly spear tackled into the ground by THREE opponents and the unpires saw nothing/do nothing? This is completely unacceptable play in any sport and EXTREMELY dangerous - not just in AFL. The AFL needs to take a really serious look at this incident and not be frightened to throw the book at the perpetrators - if Dangerfield has broken/damaged his neck then a years suspension for all three is not unwarranted IMO. These are professional footballers who are so skilled this should not happen - ever.
2. The silence some hours later IMO is likely to be bad news either way for an very talented young man.
Pray people - and for supporters of other teams - take note and pray it never happens again - to anyone.
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As others have said the latest news on 5AA is that it is definitely not his shoulder. Rather, they are taking him to the hospitals for scans on his neck.
My one fear is a cracked vertebrae is his neck as that can be career ending. Hopefully it's just damage to the ligaments surrounding his neck due to the impact of having been pole-axed head first into the ground.
To some extent it was a football incident with the exception of the t urd that had Danger by the scruff of his neck pushing his head towards the ground as the 3 of him speared him into it.
That bastard should be cited as I think his intentions are clear when you watch it in slow-mo.
Today was one of the blackest days for the crows for many many a year.
As others have said the latest news on 5AA is that it is definitely not his shoulder. Rather, they are taking him to the hospitals for scans on his neck.
My one fear is a cracked vertebrae is his neck as that can be career ending. Hopefully it's just damage to the ligaments surrounding his neck due to the impact of having been pole-axed head first into the ground.
To some extent it was a football incident with the exception of the t urd that had Danger by the scruff of his neck pushing his head towards the ground as the 3 of him speared him into it.
That bastard should be cited as I think his intentions are clear when you watch it in slow-mo.
Today was one of the blackest days for the crows for many many a year.
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i'm sure everyones thoughts are with him and I hope he is OK.
No-one ever wants a serious injury to a young player like Danger.
i'm sure everyones thoughts are with him and I hope he is OK.
No-one ever wants a serious injury to a young player like Danger.
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His shoulder didnt pop and he is not feeling pins and needles which generally occures when there has been a problem with the neck. They gave a second update on this before on 5AA radio. It was confirmed by the club doctor
His shoulder didnt pop and he is not feeling pins and needles which generally occures when there has been a problem with the neck. They gave a second update on this before on 5AA radio. It was confirmed by the club doctor
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Yep, it was legal but AFL standards and that's not right. There's all about protecting the head, chicken winging is considered very dirty in other codes.
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really hope everything is ok.
really hope everything is ok.
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Absolutely agree as his main aim was to injure the kid & the AFL need to make a bloody example of him & throw the book at the sod.
As soon as it happened all thought & care about winning the game for me was non existence.
Fingers crossed for young Patti.
As others have said the latest news on 5AA is that it is definitely not his shoulder. Rather, they are taking him to the hospitals for scans on his neck.
My one fear is a cracked vertebrae is his neck as that can be career ending. Hopefully it's just damage to the ligaments surrounding his neck due to the impact of having been pole-axed head first into the ground.
To some extent it was a football incident with the exception of the t urd that had Danger by the scruff of his neck pushing his head towards the ground as the 3 of him speared him into it.
That bastard should be cited as I think his intentions are clear when you watch it in slow-mo.
Today was one of the blackest days for the crows for many many a year.
Absolutely agree as his main aim was to injure the kid & the AFL need to make a bloody example of him & throw the book at the sod.
As soon as it happened all thought & care about winning the game for me was non existence.
Fingers crossed for young Patti.
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Maloney, the prick!!!!!!!
As others have said the latest news on 5AA is that it is definitely not his shoulder. Rather, they are taking him to the hospitals for scans on his neck.
My one fear is a cracked vertebrae is his neck as that can be career ending. Hopefully it's just damage to the ligaments surrounding his neck due to the impact of having been pole-axed head first into the ground.
To some extent it was a football incident with the exception of the t urd that had Danger by the scruff of his neck pushing his head towards the ground as the 3 of him speared him into it.
That bastard should be cited as I think his intentions are clear when you watch it in slow-mo.
Today was one of the blackest days for the crows for many many a year.
Maloney, the prick!!!!!!!
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Glad to hear this, thanks for the update That's positive signs at least. It's sad when a club favourite takes such an ugly injury that at this stage I'd be delighted to hear "only" a couple of months out.
I'm praying for you Dange.
Unlike most other here, I don't think there was any ill-intent by the Melbourne players. With Danger trying to bustle out of the tackle, and two other players already around him, the third player was probably carried over Danger's shoulders by momentum more than anything else. I don't think there was any malice there, he just wanted to bring Danger down.
However, I'm not against making an example of him. The last thing the AFL needs is a serious neck injury ending the career of a player, and steps should be put into place to prevent this sort of tackle from ever occurring again. Give the kid a month off, and let the clubs scramble a bit to find a way to ensure their players don't accidently make the same mistake again.
If you're going to make the head a protected area in the AFL, then the spine should be made even more protected. Compression of the spine is the worst thing you can have done to you.
Glad to hear this, thanks for the update
That's positive signs at least. It's sad when a club favourite takes such an ugly injury that at this stage I'd be delighted to hear "only" a couple of months out.I'm praying for you Dange.
Unlike most other here, I don't think there was any ill-intent by the Melbourne players. With Danger trying to bustle out of the tackle, and two other players already around him, the third player was probably carried over Danger's shoulders by momentum more than anything else. I don't think there was any malice there, he just wanted to bring Danger down.
However, I'm not against making an example of him. The last thing the AFL needs is a serious neck injury ending the career of a player, and steps should be put into place to prevent this sort of tackle from ever occurring again. Give the kid a month off, and let the clubs scramble a bit to find a way to ensure their players don't accidently make the same mistake again.
If you're going to make the head a protected area in the AFL, then the spine should be made even more protected. Compression of the spine is the worst thing you can have done to you.
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Of course they are, they would regardless even if he broke an arm or leg. Its the SOP of any incident like that. The fact he has been taken to hospital for a scan is no great cause for concern. Sando would have already diagnosed in shoulder concern he might have but would need film to look at his neck.
I had one of those little wing thingo's snapped off one of the vert's in my neck in a similar incident. hurt like buggery without it being particularly serious but it was still the shoulder that was the problem long term.
No need for anyone to panic yet.
As others have said the latest news on 5AA is that it is definitely not his shoulder. Rather, they are taking him to the hospitals for scans on his neck.
My one fear is a cracked vertebrae is his neck as that can be career ending. Hopefully it's just damage to the ligaments surrounding his neck due to the impact of having been pole-axed head first into the ground.
To some extent it was a football incident with the exception of the t urd that had Danger by the scruff of his neck pushing his head towards the ground as the 3 of him speared him into it.
That bastard should be cited as I think his intentions are clear when you watch it in slow-mo.
Today was one of the blackest days for the crows for many many a year.
Of course they are, they would regardless even if he broke an arm or leg. Its the SOP of any incident like that. The fact he has been taken to hospital for a scan is no great cause for concern. Sando would have already diagnosed in shoulder concern he might have but would need film to look at his neck.
I had one of those little wing thingo's snapped off one of the vert's in my neck in a similar incident. hurt like buggery without it being particularly serious but it was still the shoulder that was the problem long term.
No need for anyone to panic yet.
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Your'e too nice stabby, he intent was to hurt.
Glad to hear this, thanks for the update
I'm praying for you Dange.
Unlike most other here, I don't think there was any ill-intent by the Melbourne players. With Danger trying to bustle out of the tackle, and two other players already around him, the third player was probably carried over Danger's shoulders by momentum more than anything else. I don't think there was any malice there, he just wanted to bring Danger down.
However, I'm not against making an example of him. The last thing the AFL needs is a serious neck injury ending the career of a player, and steps should be put into place to prevent this sort of tackle from ever occurring again. Give the kid a month off, and let the clubs scramble a bit to find a way to ensure their players don't accidently make the same mistake again.
If you're going to make the head a protected area in the AFL, then the spine should be made even more protected. Compression of the spine is the worst thing you can have done to you.
Your'e too nice stabby, he intent was to hurt.
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Yes it was pretty ugly but I watched it over and over and tbh there wasn't much that the three players could do when they were falling...
It was just extremely unfortunate and unlucky...
Yes it was pretty ugly but I watched it over and over and tbh there wasn't much that the three players could do when they were falling...
It was just extremely unfortunate and unlucky...
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I agree, and he has clearly been targeted by opposition coaches as someone that will break through tackles if left to his direct opposition, so support your man and help him out. Danger got gang tackled all day. Just unfortunate, but there is nothing the AFL is doing that is lessening this type of incident. This rugby style of tackling that is being coached into the game needs to be stamped out.
I agree, and he has clearly been targeted by opposition coaches as someone that will break through tackles if left to his direct opposition, so support your man and help him out. Danger got gang tackled all day. Just unfortunate, but there is nothing the AFL is doing that is lessening this type of incident. This rugby style of tackling that is being coached into the game needs to be stamped out.
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I can believe that. Intent to hurt, yes, as there is in most tackles (but not ours it seems)
Intent to injure? I don't believe that personally.
I can believe that. Intent to hurt, yes, as there is in most tackles (but not ours it seems
)Intent to injure? I don't believe that personally.
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Danger is possibly the hardest player in the league to bring to ground. It's a great strength of his, but it also means he'll get 2, 3, 4 blokes gang tackling him like this pretty regularly. It's a hell of a lot more dangerous to have 3 blokes trying to drive you into the deck than it is 1. If it were just about any other player, they would have been dumped to ground seconds earlier and probably avoided injury.
It might not be the last time we see him get injured in such a way. Not sure what the AFL should do about it, but, as we're the Adelaide Crows, history shows you can bet on them doing nothing.
Danger is possibly the hardest player in the league to bring to ground. It's a great strength of his, but it also means he'll get 2, 3, 4 blokes gang tackling him like this pretty regularly. It's a hell of a lot more dangerous to have 3 blokes trying to drive you into the deck than it is 1. If it were just about any other player, they would have been dumped to ground seconds earlier and probably avoided injury.
It might not be the last time we see him get injured in such a way. Not sure what the AFL should do about it, but, as we're the Adelaide Crows, history shows you can bet on them doing nothing.
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Haven't seen it yet as I couldn't watch the game, but in the NRL the player who comes in and upends the tackle is the one who is penalised, regardless of intent, as it is a dangerous and negligent act whether it's intended or not. The AFL should also take this line, or someone will be seriously injured one day - accidentally or not.
Haven't seen it yet as I couldn't watch the game, but in the NRL the player who comes in and upends the tackle is the one who is penalised, regardless of intent, as it is a dangerous and negligent act whether it's intended or not. The AFL should also take this line, or someone will be seriously injured one day - accidentally or not.
