Confirmed Daniel Rioli - Traded with picks 51, 61, 70 & 76 to GC for picks 6 & 26

[Pure_Ownage]

He’s an elite 3 time premiership player in his prime who has 3 years to run on a contract. Dimma wants him, he wants to get up there, it’s imperative on the suns to come up with a deal that Richmond is happy with. I can assure you Richmond will not be playing nice this trade period.

I get that and its possible because the suns list managers like cameron have been proven to be lionel hutz like. But my point was hbf is one of the easiest positions to draft a good player with a later pick. High top 10 picks are reserved for top end kpfs and elite mids. So if i was gc i would not be offering any top 10 pick for rioli and if he stays at richmond id be fine with that

 

[tigs2010]

I get that and its possible because the suns list managers like cameron have been proven to be lionel hutz like. But my point was hbf is one of the easiest positions to draft a good player with a later pick. High top 10 picks are reserved for top end kpfs and elite mids. So if i was gc i would not be offering any top 10 pick for rioli and if he stays at richmond id be fine with that

You should write an email to Craig Cameron & cc Blair Hartley.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

You should write an email to Craig Cameron & cc Blair Hartley.

No point cameron is so incompetent it would make no difference.

 

[tigs2010]

No point cameron is so incompetent it would make no difference.

Richmond fans are fully aware of Helmut Cameron's incompetence

 

[Iva Bigun]

Whoever his opponent was has bigger defensive issues letting the half back slot 2 and should have been 3 if he didn't pass to Baker.

Flanders, Rioli's opponent was best on ground and kicked 2 of his own. Rioli was judged 5th best in just your losing team

It’s going to be a fascinating trade period. If indeed the rumours are true that Rioli wants to get to the Suns and Hardwick wants him.

If Craig Cameron gives up a top 10 pick for Daniel without anything coming back, it would have to be one of his top three brain fart trades. I’m really hoping that you guys ask for pick eight and we say GAGF, dogs pick (13-16) or nothing, Daniel would know that’s a fair offer and you can deal with a disgruntled player who’s value will only diminish next year, a 29 yo HBF would be worth a mid 2nd IMO

 

[THE_GUN]

The truth im afraid. No falling out has occured according to anyone but Victorian BF posters basically

Then the people posting it on your board must also be talking the same lies
its been doing the rounds maybe you have ignored any negative news surrounding this

 

[THE_GUN]

Top 5 pick for Rioli is too much even contracted. Look at what Dogs traded to get 5 and a bunch of few picks in the 2nd and 3rd round. It's a chance for Suns to get a draftee before a Lombard bid. The options are if they must trade pick 5 they would demand back 39, 41 & 48. 5 for suns will get Langford or Lalor. Really I think tigers should go with 13, 20, & a player they and give 41 & 48 with Rioli. Collins would be ideal or Lukosius or even just a steak knives pick Jy or Faulkhead.

Why bother looking at what the dogs traded ?

The best example and the most comparable is Adam Saad trade to Carlton for pick #8 when he was Uncontracted and walked out the door making it clear he was not returning. pick #8

Rioli under contract chased by his old coach with 3 years remaining
Gold Coast currently has pick #7 and if Battle leaves could be pick #8 same as what carlton traded for an inferior player at the time that was uncontracted.

 

[THE_GUN]

That trade was a joke too. Shouldnt have been allowed

There will always be joke trades as you call them and with cap trading coming in it was just a sign of things to come

 

[Ash1337]

Why bother looking at what the dogs traded ?

The best example and the most comparable is Adam Saad trade to Carlton for pick #8 when he was Uncontracted and walked out the door making it clear he was not returning. pick #8

Rioli under contract chased by his old coach with 3 years remaining
Gold Coast currently has pick #7 and if Battle leaves could be pick #8 same as what carlton traded for an inferior player at the time that was uncontracted.

Battle's offer is reportedly not enough to trigger band 1.

 

[THE_GUN]

Flanders, Rioli's opponent was best on ground and kicked 2 of his own. Rioli was judged 5th best in just your losing team

It’s going to be a fascinating trade period. If indeed the rumours are true that Rioli wants to get to the Suns and Hardwick wants him.

If Craig Cameron gives up a top 10 pick for Daniel without anything coming back, it would have to be one of his top three brain fart trades. I’m really hoping that you guys ask for pick eight and we say GAGF, dogs pick (13-16) or nothing, Daniel would know that’s a fair offer and you can deal with a disgruntled player who’s value will only diminish next year, a 29 yo HBF would be worth a mid 2nd IMO

GC pick is 7 and probably going to become pick 8 then pick 9 after ashcroft
it will be that pick or just doesnt get done and Rioli stays at Richmond and GC take pick 9 to the draft

The kicker will come if GC want any or how much of his salary they need paid by Richmond
This trade could easily be #8+#20 for Rioli and 50% salary paid or #8+#15 with 75% paid

 

[Jirik13]

GC pick is 7 and probably going to become pick 8 then pick 9 after ashcroft
it will be that pick or just doesnt get done and Rioli stays at Richmond and GC take pick 9 to the draft

The kicker will come if GC want any or how much of his salary they need paid by Richmond
This trade could easily be #8+#20 for Rioli and 50% salary paid or #8+#15 with 75% paid

So you went from 5+20 to 8+20 plus 50% salary. I see progress.

Jon Ralph, Tigers tragic claims 2 late first round. Is he nuts?

 

[dean33]

I get that and it’s possible because the suns list managers like cameron have been proven to be lionel hutz like. But my point was hbf is one of the easiest positions to draft a good player with a later pick. High top 10 picks are reserved for top end kpfs and elite mids. So if i was gc i would not be offering any top 10 pick for rioli and if he stays at richmond id be fine with that

The deal is already agreed in principle, no chance he’s still at the tigers next season.

 

[Barrybran]

The deal is already agreed in principle, no chance he’s still at the tigers next season.

The deal might be agreed but the Suns have plenty of picks to work with that aren't pick 5. As others have mentioned, Rioli plays a position that is much easier to draft for than a KPP or elite midfielder. There is zero incentive for the Suns to give up pick 5 for Rioli.

 

[Iva Bigun]

He’s an elite 3 time premiership player in his prime who has 3 years to run on a contract. Dimma wants him, he wants to get up there, it’s imperative on the suns to come up with a deal that Richmond is happy with. I can assure you Richmond will not be playing nice this trade period.

 

[Moonatic77]

Flanders, Rioli's opponent was best on ground and kicked 2 of his own. Rioli was judged 5th best in just your losing team

It’s going to be a fascinating trade period. If indeed the rumours are true that Rioli wants to get to the Suns and Hardwick wants him.

If Craig Cameron gives up a top 10 pick for Daniel without anything coming back, it would have to be one of his top three brain fart trades. I’m really hoping that you guys ask for pick eight and we say GAGF, dogs pick (13-16) or nothing, Daniel would know that’s a fair offer and you can deal with a disgruntled player who’s value will only diminish next year, a 29 yo HBF would be worth a mid 2nd IMO

Surely couldn't be worse than handing over Bowes and pick 7

 

[Iva Bigun]

Surely couldn't be worse than handing over Bowes and pick 7

Not it’s not. that doesn’t make it anymore palatable

 

[blaisee]

I get that and it’s possible because the suns list managers like cameron have been proven to be lionel hutz like. But my point was hbf is one of the easiest positions to draft a good player with a later pick. High top 10 picks are reserved for top end kpfs and elite mids. So if i was gc i would not be offering any top 10 pick for rioli and if he stays at richmond id be fine with that

Well that’s awesome that you would fine with that . Thanks very much means a lot

Why are you here talking down all of Richmond’s potential trades both on this thread and the Bolton one

Sounds like you are coping hard lol

You sound like you are worried by it ?

Dusty has retired , can’t you just move on ?

 

[THE_GUN]

So you went from 5+20 to 8+20 plus 50% salary. I see progress.

Jon Ralph, Tigers tragic claims 2 late first round. Is he nuts?

Im not the person negotiating but hard to see anyway Rioli is allowed to leave without the 1st pick being the corner stone of the trade and any later pick would depend entirely on how GC want the deal structured with his salary

Jon Ralph has an interest in getting clicks - I have no agenda
The trade will be for overs otherwise there is no trade and im happy either way

 

[THE_GUN]

Battle's offer is reportedly not enough to trigger band 1.

Reportedly

Hawks adjusted Vickery offer to suit Richmond at the time and have enough cap space to do the same with Battle
If they want Battle they will just adjust the payment to suit and get their required player same as McKay to bombers last year

 

[tigs2010]

Reportedly

Hawks adjusted Vickery offer to suit Richmond at the time and have enough cap space to do the same with Battle
If they want Battle they will just adjust the payment to suit and get their required player same as McKay to bombers last year

Wasn't Tyrone restricted? Battle is unrestricted so no threat of matching

 

[THE_GUN]

. There is zero incentive for the Suns to give up pick 5 for Rioli.

And there is even less incentive for Richmond to give up Rioli unless #7 is involved
Richmond have so many picks and will get even more to both take players this trade period and next year
unless an early pick inside 10 is involved just no point giving away a player like Rioli with 5 years remaining for a rubbish pick. even without trading Rioli richmond will have 6 picks inside the top 30 whats another pick in the 15-20 range

But GC & Dimma are desperate and picks mean nothing to them with the list demographic they have and all the academy kids in the system

 

[THE_GUN]

Wasn't Tyrone restricted? Battle is unrestricted so no threat of matching

That makes the most difference if he is but also gives StKilda the chance to up their offer so he has doubts about leaving if the dollars are similar and Hawks could be forced to increase to convince him to leave.

 

[Ash1337]

Reportedly

Hawks adjusted Vickery offer to suit Richmond at the time and have enough cap space to do the same with Battle
If they want Battle they will just adjust the payment to suit and get their required player same as McKay to bombers last year

They have no reason to. Battle is a UFA. There's no incentive at all to appease saints by upping the offer.

 

[Daka]

I know some may disagree with what I am about to state but imo we signed him on a 5-year contract for unders for the sort of player he is.
I believe it was 500K a year. when he signed, he probably thought it was good deal for the sort of player he was at the time.
Since than he has had 3 elite consistent seasons at half-back no one thought he could be a 30+disposals player with damaging run & kicking goals.

When he likely gets to the Suns his contract will get re-worked to the player he is now.
I'm not saying our club ripped him off it was just the sort of player he was at the time; he was more a good role player.

I think he has become more than just a good role player. I'm not either suggesting Dan Rioli is a dog either for potentially leaving for those reasons, I think he now sees it as win-win for both Richmond & himself getting to the Suns to play under Dimma.

 

[THE_GUN]

They have no reason to. Battle is a UFA. There's no incentive at all to appease saints by upping the offer.

But they do have a reason to appease Battle
If StKilda has an offer of $900k on the table for him to stay at the saints it will be hard to move him