Confirmed Daniel Rioli - Traded with picks 51, 61, 70 & 76 to GC for picks 6 & 26

[RUNVS]

Not really over rating Rioli as such but the circumstances and how it occurs

Rioli was extremely happy at Richmond and said as much prior to going up to the gold coast earlier in the year and playing great football.

Things changed when he met Hardwick on the gold coast and we all know what happened and Dimma see's Rioli as an integral part of his plans for GC

Uncontracted Rioli is worth a pick 10-15
Contracted for 3 more years that becomes pick #7 and thats the pick GC have if they had 10 it would be 10 but its #7

Now with GC salary cap issue and if they want 50% salary paid then thats another issue altogether
We have all seen what GC are happy to pay to get $350k-$400k off their books and it was pick #7 just last year

So thats where the over paying comes into the trade

Not sure why you think uncontracted Rioli is worth a pick 10-15 range. He is an okay player but has he even been in the AA squad, much less the AA team?

 

[THE_GUN]

I don't think they'll be doing that.

Did you 'Think' They would trade Bowes to Geelong with a pick #7 in his back pocket ?

 

[THE_GUN]

Not sure why you think uncontracted Rioli is worth a pick 10-15 range. He is an okay player but has he even been in the AA squad, much less the AA team?

Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch and Daniel Rioli have been named in the 2022 All Australian squad.

He will also win our B & F this year

 

[Iva Bigun]

Did you 'Think' They would trade Bowes to Geelong with a pick #7 in his back pocket ?

That trade was an outright disgrace and in no way reminiscent of normal trading practices, hardly applicable in this case

 

[THE_GUN]

That trade was an outright disgrace and in no way reminiscent of normal trading practices, hardly applicable in this case

So you dont believe suns will require Richmond to pay any of Rioli's salary
He would be on $750k a year at the tigers and i would doubt he is going up there without an increase

 

[dean33]

So what youre saying is rioli wont be traded thos year then.

Deal is already done, will be one of the first to drop.

 

[THE_GUN]

Deal is already done, will be one of the first to drop.

Pick #7 - Welcome to Richmond Tigers

 

[RUNVS]

Pick #7 - Welcome to Richmond Tigers

The fact you would be thrilled with that result shows Rioli is not worth pick 7.

 

[dean33]

Pick #7 - Welcome to Richmond Tigers

More to it but 7 there.

 

[Jirik13]

The fact you would be thrilled with that result shows Rioli is not worth pick 7.

After glory days, THE_GUN nowadays gets thrill from collecting picks. I say good on him

BTW, he could be correct.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Deal is already done, will be one of the first to drop.

It wont at that price.

 

[Morro]

The fact you would be thrilled with that result shows Rioli is not worth pick 7.

You are correct, these contracted players should and will net us overs due to circumstances, not just based on their perceived player value.

 

[RUNVS]

You are correct, these contracted players should and will net us overs due to circumstances, not just based on their perceived player value.

I still think Richmond fans are being very optimistic. I think even pick 13 is overs for Rioli but that is slightly fairer.

 

[Sector 7G]

Pick #7 - Welcome to Richmond Tigers

That is overpaying, but pretty much the market if you want a high level running back.

Carlton paid the same for Saad who is pretty comparable.

 

[fargothegreat]

I reckon the deal ends up including all of 6, 13, and 20, with other picks going back to GC after the Lombard bid on draft night.

I haven't worked out a specific deal (and it's probably pointless at this stage due to picks still moving), but for example, say we get 14 from Brisbane, we could keep 13 and 20, but trade 14 and 21 to GC for something after the bid comes for Lombard. This lets GC still take three first round picks without any getting eaten by the bid.

 

[Morro]

I still think Richmond fans are being very optimistic. I think even pick 13 is overs for Rioli but that is slightly fairer.

Wil be interesting to see where it lands.

 

[THE_GUN]

That is overpaying, but pretty much the market if you want a high level running back.

Carlton paid the same for Saad who is pretty comparable.

Not to mention Saad was uncontracted and Rioli still has 3 years to run

Now if the suns want salary paid as well lets see what extra is thrown in

 

[THE_GUN]

The fact you would be thrilled with that result shows Rioli is not worth pick 7.

We are not 'Thrilled as you say but its a good pick in this draft
and with where richmond are at currently

If he played for Sydney whilst in their window i wouldnt trade him with 5 years of a premiership window

 

[dean33]

It wont at that price.

Suns know they have to pay overs for Rioli to get it done or he stays. Take it to the bank it will be 6 and another 1st rd pick.

 

[dean33]

I reckon the deal ends up including all of 6, 13, and 20, with other picks going back to GC after the Lombard bid on draft night.

I haven't worked out a specific deal (and it's probably pointless at this stage due to picks still moving), but for example, say we get 14 from Brisbane, we could keep 13 and 20, but trade 14 and 21 to GC for something after the bid comes for Lombard. This lets GC still take three first round picks without any getting eaten by the bid.

Sorry I don’t get this trade. We give up Rioli, 14, 21 and some later picks to Brisbane for 6, 13, 20?

Am I missing something here?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Suns know they have to pay overs for Rioli to get it done or he stays. Take it to the bank it will be 6 and another 1st rd pick.

No chance.
It will be 6 (even that alone is too much) but theres no chance they will be adding a 2nd round 1.
If thats richmonds demand they will enjoy having rioli play at richmond next year (which is fine).

 

[THE_GUN]

Suns know they have to pay overs for Rioli to get it done or he stays. Take it to the bank it will be 6 and another 1st rd pick.

Wont be pick #6 i guarantee it


#7 yes

 

[Mostyn]

What about 2017? Do you remember that?

Yep, it was the first time Richmond hadn't been shit in 35 years.

 

[SkiddyMcGhee]

Yep, it was the first time Richmond hadn't been shit in 35 years.

Thanks for allowing us to shit all over you......

 

[Barrybran]

I reckon the deal ends up including all of 6, 13, and 20, with other picks going back to GC after the Lombard bid on draft night.

I haven't worked out a specific deal (and it's probably pointless at this stage due to picks still moving), but for example, say we get 14 from Brisbane, we could keep 13 and 20, but trade 14 and 21 to GC for something after the bid comes for Lombard. This lets GC still take three first round picks without any getting eaten by the bid.

There's no incentive for the Suns to part with 6 but I think Richmond could get all of 13, 20 and 26 for Rioli, 39, 41 and 47. Still values Rioli at pick 7 (well overs FWIW) but you get better picks to package up for other trades than what you currently have. 26 + 29 to Brisbane for 14 would leave you with 1, 13, 14, 20 and 21 before you even deal with Bolton, Baker and Graham.