Confirmed Daniel Rioli - Traded with picks 51, 61, 70 & 76 to GC for picks 6 & 26

[Elton Johns Wig]

2020 Trade for Out of Contract Adam Saad 42 Adam Saad Age 30 Ht 178cm Wt 79kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 17.5 4star K 10.0 4star HB 7.5 5star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star MG 349.1 5star D 20.7 5star K 12.0 5star HB 8.7 4star M 3.3 3star T 2.4 3star MG 388.3 5star D 17.6 5star K 10.4 4star HB 7.2 5star M 4.2 4star T 1.2 3star
Carlton	Saad (86 games) + #48 (-) + #78 (-)
Essendon	#8 (-) + #87 (-)

2021 Trade for Out of Contract Adam Cerra
Carlton	Cerra (53 games)	125 XG
Fremantle	#6 (-) + #2022R3 (Carlton) (-)	146 XG

2022 Trade for Out of Contract Tim Taranto 14 Tim Taranto Age 26 Ht 188cm Wt 87kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 22.3 5star K 12.8 5star HB 9.5 5star M 3.6 4star T 5.6 5star CL 4.1 5star D 17.0 4star K 12.0 5star HB 5.0 3star M 1.5 2star T 3.0 4star CL 5.5 5star D 15.6 4star K 7.6 3star HB 8.0 5star M 1.8 2star T 4.0 5star CL 2.2 4star
GWS	#12 (-) + #19 (-)	146 XG
Richmond	Taranto (38 games)	100 XG

But pick 13, the Tigers should just take it and be happy?

GC have identified a need and targeted a player.


The fact he has 3 years left increases the price to pay. It absolutely does. I cannot see a way that pick 13 is the best part of the deal.

 

[Warhorse]

Suns will cave and pay more than what Geelong paid for Cameron. Pathetic club and Wish Geelong could benefit from the Suns poor decision making

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The last line is the kicker

"We said to Daniel we want him here, so it's up to us to uphold our end of the bargain."

Daniel : I'd like to come Dimma but can this get done ? Will Richmond trade me
Dimma : I'll make sure it gets done and we dont care what picks are the cost

GC will know Richmond would not trade Rioli for pick #12 that will end up 14-15 and Richmond has so many later picks they are already looking to move up with and would be no use to get another that will get diluted dowm
Pick #7 is the non negotiable imo

Except they've probably already agreed to a trade which is why he was strong about it in the interview. Dont think Campbell is that much of goose to be that strong otherwise

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Suns will cave and pay more than what Geelong paid for Cameron. Pathetic club and Wish Geelong could benefit from the Suns poor decision making

The only club that abuses GC in trades more than Freo is Geelong, not sure you have much to complain about

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Someone will bid on Lombard before 6 if the Suns hold it draft night. The 5 clubs before that would be mad not too. Just gives the Suns an extra potential gun player if they don't.

IMO the Suns trade it into next year to help get Zeke Uwland.

Pick 12 is perfectly reasonable to everyone other than Richmond fans, who have been telling themselves it's pick 6 and more for so long they can see no other outcome.

Just because you need Pick 6 for another academy player it won't come at the expense of the Tigers losing a contracted player for pick 12. The Suns got four Academy players last year Walter (No.3), Ethan Read (No.9), Jake Rogers (No.14) and Will Graham (No.26). How many do they need before the AFL admits that it's baby the Suns is a lost cause.

 

[Warhorse]

The only club that abuses GC in trades more than Freo is Geelong, not sure you have much to complain about

I'm not complaining. Just wish we could be involved so could ream them as well.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Just because you need Pick 6 for another academy player it won't come at the expense of the Tigers losing a contracted player for pick 12. The Suns got four Academy players last year Walter (No.3), Ethan Read (No.9), Jake Rogers (No.14) and Will Graham (No.26). How many do they need before the AFL admits that it's baby the Suns is a lost cause.

This will never happen. This isn't the thread for this but AFL is booming in SE Queensland. The AFL is getting exactly what it wanted. It's making huge ground in a rugba league state.

 

[Jirik13]

This will never happen. This isn't the thread for this but AFL is booming in SE Queensland. The AFL is getting exactly what it wanted. It's making huge ground in a rugba league state.

Some people will never get it.

And if Suns play finals people will complain about concessions even more than now.

I was a bit surprised this year that despite not making finals Suns had 4 sold out games. GWS could only dream about it. It was great atmosphere, for sure a lot of opposition fans but I did notice plenty of young people supporting Suns.

 

[lommy]

Some people will never get it.

And if Suns play finals people will complain about concessions even more than now.

I was a bit surprised this year that despite not making finals Suns had 4 sold out games. GWS could only dream about it. It was great atmosphere, for sure a lot of opposition fans but I did notice plenty of young people supporting Suns.

Yeah if you look closely at a suns game you will always find multiple family’s with parents in oppo gear and their kids in suns gear


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[Iva Bigun]

The only club that abuses GC in trades more than Freo is Geelong, not sure you have much to complain about

While I agree that the Suns have had some howlers when trading with Freo it’s not all one way traffic.

Freos discarded key defender in Sam Collins has just won his 2nd b&f , Charlie Ballard was a consolation from the Weller trade that has proven to be a quality player. Moving on Harley Bennell proved to be a good decision as was Matera, Corbett and Brodie

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

While I agree that the Suns have had some howlers when trading with Freo it’s not all one way traffic.

Freos discarded key defender in Sam Collins has just won his 2nd b&f , Charlie Ballard was a consolation from the Weller trade that has proven to be a quality player. Moving on Harley Bennell proved to be a good decision as was Matera, Corbett and Brodie

Who you draft doesn't reflect the trades and we got what we wanted out of all those trades bar Bennell. I wish we could have seen if Merriman could fix Bennell. Poor guy went from your early quacks to our own.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Who you draft doesn't reflect the trades and we got what we wanted out of all those trades bar Bennell. I wish we could have seen if Merriman could fix Bennell. Poor guy went from your early quacks to our own.

Agree the trades for the most part worked for Freo, all in getting at is it hasn’t all been bad news for the Suns

 

[THE_GUN]

While I agree that the Suns have had some howlers when trading with Freo it’s not all one way traffic.

Freos discarded key defender in Sam Collins has just won his 2nd b&f , Charlie Ballard was a consolation from the Weller trade that has proven to be a quality player. Moving on Harley Bennell proved to be a good decision as was Matera, Corbett and Brodie

Didnt GC pay fremantle to take Brodie ?
its exactly the same as the Bowes deal which both were shocking

 

[Jirik13]

Didnt GC pay fremantle to take Brodie ?
its exactly the same as the Bowes deal which both were shocking

I don't think salary pay was involved.

Brodie + 19 + 61 + 69 for Freo F2, F4

 

[CrowFan77]

2020 Trade for Out of Contract Adam Saad
Carlton	Saad (86 games) + #48 (-) + #78 (-)
Essendon	#8 (-) + #87 (-)

2021 Trade for Out of Contract Adam Cerra
Carlton	Cerra (53 games)	125 XG
Fremantle	#6 (-) + #2022R3 (Carlton) (-)	146 XG

2022 Trade for Out of Contract Tim Taranto
GWS	#12 (-) + #19 (-)	146 XG
Richmond	Taranto (38 games)	100 XG

But pick 13, the Tigers should just take it and be happy?

GC have identified a need and targeted a player.


The fact he has 3 years left increases the price to pay. It absolutely does. I cannot see a way that pick 13 is the best part of the deal.

Taranto and Cerra were WAY younger than Rioli - they are not comparable. Even Saab was a couple of years younger.

I think it will be pick #6 for Rioli and pick #29 (maybe even pick #41 too).

Richmond get a high end pick and salary cap space.

GC get Rioli plus points for academy players.

Win-win!

 

[THE_GUN]

I don't think salary pay was involved.

Brodie + 19 + 61 + 69 for Freo F2, F4

He was effectively a salary dump at the time as 19 was sought after being 1st pick 2nd day

 

[Iva Bigun]

Didnt GC pay fremantle to take Brodie ?
its exactly the same as the Bowes deal which both were shocking

Not even close

Banik, Lounder, Tambling

 

[perplexed]

Someone will bid on Lombard before 6 if the Suns hold it draft night. The 5 clubs before that would be mad not too. Just gives the Suns an extra potential gun player if they don't.

So why wouldn't you try and move it up the order rather than trade it out?

I suspect that both North and West Coast would be willing to trade back and you seem to have the picks to get it done.

 

[Iva Bigun]

So why wouldn't you try and move it up the order rather than trade it out?

I suspect that both North and West Coast would be willing to trade back and you seem to have the picks to get it done.

What would you be looking for in return?

Personally I don’t believe a club would bid on Lombard before 6 because the top end of the draft is very even, so you would be giving up a shot at an elite player just to spite the Suns, can’t see it happening

 

[THE_GUN]

Not even close

Banik, Lounder, Tambling

This is really Baffling and i cant make any sense of this response

We are talking about the Brodie trade and how it was a salary dump

And you bring up failed picks from 40 years ago.

Maybe delete

 

[THE_GUN]

What would you be looking for in return?

Personally I don’t believe a club would bid on Lombard before 6 because the top end of the draft is very even, so you would be giving up a shot at an elite player just to spite the Suns, can’t see it happening

Nobody is bidding on Lombard in the top 10

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Nobody is bidding on Lombard in the top 10

That is a mistake, they should. If nothing else it wipes out more of the Suns picks as they will match him

 

[perplexed]

What would you be looking for in return?

Personally I don’t believe a club would bid on Lombard before 6 because the top end of the draft is very even, so you would be giving up a shot at an elite player just to spite the Suns, can’t see it happening

We'd want 6 and 13, or maybe 6, 20, 26.

Teams will bid on Lombard where they rate him. Whether that is before 6 or not, I don't know. Many watchers seem to rate him around that mark. But I agree that nobody is bidding tactically or to spite the Suns.

 

[Rusty Beam]

We'd want 6 and 13, or maybe 6, 20, 26.

Teams will bid on Lombard where they rate him. Whether that is before 6 or not, I don't know. Many watchers seem to rate him around that mark. But I agree that nobody is bidding tactically or to spite the Suns.

Personally I really doubt someone in the first 5 picks is bidding on Lombard.

Particularly since it would completely be out of spite in this instance. It’s not like they are letting him slip down the rankings.

Most clubs don’t want to ruin a trading relationship that they may need one day.

 

[Jirik13]

That is a mistake, they should. If nothing else it wipes out more of the Suns picks as they will match him

And if Suns don't match they end up with player they did not want? Top 5 bid would be insane when Lombard is projected outside top 10.

All teams make their list and follow it. They don't bid to spite another team if they have a better player available.