Do you want Fevola at Collingwood?

[Old Spice]

Then go support Carlton

Bill Strickland ring a bell?

 

[drummoyne]

Give whatever they want for him.

A combination of the following - Pick 14, Cloke, Davis, Dawes..

Exactly what we need to take that next step. The uproar by Blues fans would also be priceless..

 

[greening22]

**** yeah!

But I don't want him if it means we trade any of the obvious untouchables or N.Brown/Reid. I am happy to move Dawes though.

I would trade Nathan Brown or Ben Reid straightaway for Fevola. I would also consider trading Travis Cloke - as he will not get any better - and possibly Chris Dawes or Jack Anthony. Why? Because we need a gun full-forward who will kick 80 - 100 goals per year. Simple as that. Plus there are no guarantees that any of the players that I mentioned are going to make it as elite players at Collingwood. I am simply sick of waiting!

 

[greening22]

3-4 years is plenty of a window!

pick 14 could be an absolute spud (very shallow draft). I wouldn't say no to trading Thomas, Medhurst, Davis, Cloke, Anthony, Dawes either.

You are totally on the money, mate!

 

[greening22]

Some of you people need to grow up.. Cloke wont get any better?

HE'S F-UCKING 22 YEARS OLD

Mate I have grown up and have been watching games since 1969. Cloke is what I would call in the Collingwood context, a "GUNNA"! gunna do this; gunna do that. But does not deliver in the really big ones! He will not get any better! He has that hang dog-loser look. His kicking is terrible. He cannot jump off the ground. Of all the Clokes, we have had the old man is by far the best of them. To me he is another Rene Kink except Kink had much more talent and could actually - once in a blue moon - actually dominate a game. Give me a proven goal-kicker anyday of the week.

 

[drummoyne]

Well thank god our football department isn't made up of 12 year olds that would trade away our future for a 29 year old f-uck up that we'll be forced to sack when he does what he does

You have to give alot to recieve a player of Fevolas calibre. Off-field issues aside he is the best goal kicker in the competition. 3-4 years of 70+ goals a season from Fev would be handy.

 

[HFF]

"It is understood the Pies' football department is not as open to adding Fevola to its mix as McGuire may be, but that may change during official talks next week."

Straight from the herald sun.

I'm pretty sure most of us would have thought this was the case.

It doesn't have anything to do with us gaining Fev but was is required to sacrifice in order to get him. That's the sticky point.

There is no doubt Hine in accordance with Malthouse have earmarked the draft and certain player/s i.e. John Butcher rumour. Thus, we really want to keep our first round selection or upgrade it.

Will be interesting next week.

 

[lethalburns]

Can't believe some of the players people are suggesting we part with for a 29 year old who will be past it by the time we are ready. I'm going to be so pissed off if we get him by giving up a young gun.

 

[Quicky]

"It is understood the Pies' football department is not as open to adding Fevola to its mix as McGuire may be, but that may change during official talks next week."

Straight from the herald sun.

I'm pretty sure most of us would have thought this was the case.

It doesn't have anything to do with us gaining Fev but was is required to sacrifice in order to get him. That's the sticky point.

There is no doubt Hine in accordance with Malthouse have earmarked the draft and certain player/s i.e. John Butcher rumour. Thus, we really want to keep our first round selection or upgrade it.

Will be interesting next week.

I'm not sure given Hine has given the indication he doesn't rate this draft that he would have such a big issue with giving up picks to secure a player of Fevs callibre. That just says to me the board is weighing up the consequences if Fevola f-arks up more - a risk I think we should be willing to take. I never really thought we would be able to get a top 5 pick anyway - very wishful thinking.

 

[HFF]

I'm not sure given Hine has given the indication he doesn't rate this draft that he would have such a big issue with giving up picks to secure a player of Fevs callibre. That just says to me the board is weighing up the consequences if Fevola f-arks up more - a risk I think we should be willing to take. I never really thought we would be able to get a top 5 pick anyway - very wishful thinking.

What blatsplat said. The top end of the draft is very good. This is where Hine will have done his homework.

Also, acquiring a top 5 selection is as same wishful thinking as acquiring Fev for a favourable deal.

Blues will seek/want far too much for us to take that risk IMO.

We are on record saying we will not butcher the list- we even said this when were chasing Judd.

The club has backed the youth system and are in full support of Hine and his decisions.

I think the club will continue down the same path.

I have a feeling Hine is upto something.

 

[Zahki]

It's looking like Carlton are deadly serious about getting rid of Fev.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/blues-may-pay-new-club/2009/09/30/1253989953857.html

CARLTON is willing to pay a portion of Brendan Fevola's salary to help facilitate a trade to another club, but only if the Blues receive what they believe is a decent return for the 2009 Coleman medallist.

Even more interesting was Geoff Walsh's response when asked whether Collingwood are interested.

Collingwood's chief of football Geoff Walsh last night offered ''no comment'' when asked if the Magpies would be interested in Fevola during trade-week talks.

Not an outright denial, so my guess is that it's being considered at least.

 

[greening22]

Well good onya but obviously not good enough to become a recruiter so how about you leave it in their hands because I can assure you they won't be trading Cloke who will be a gun when he matures in a few years

Sorry mate I have no faith in our recruiting department! I repeat you are foooling yourself about Travos Cloke becoming a "GUN" in a few years. What do you mean as a gun? He kicks 60-70 goals a year. He is best on ground in successive finals games. He can play at both centre-half forward as well as full-forward during the course of the season and actually kick goals. I doubt it. He is as good as he is going to get. End of story.

 

[HFF]

Sorry mate I have no faith in our recruiting department! I repeat you are foooling yourself about Travos Cloke becoming a "GUN" in a few years. What do you mean as a gun? He kicks 60-70 goals a year. He is best on ground in successive finals games. He can play at both centre-half forward as well as full-forward during the course of the season and actually kick goals. I doubt it. He is as good as he is going to get. End of story.

What's wrong with our recruiting department?

We made the top and a prelim on the back of youth.

We are one of the youngest lists in the comp.

We have had more rising stars nominees than any other club of late too. That is extremely promising considering we are at the top end of the table.

Need to look at things a little more closely and no get all excited by the media hysteria and circus that is becoming Fev and the Blues.

 

[Quicky]

What blatsplat said. The top end of the draft is very good. This is where Hine will have done his homework.

Also, acquiring a top 5 selection is as same wishful thinking as acquiring Fev for a favourable deal.

Blues will seek/want far too much for us to take that risk IMO.

We are on record saying we will not butcher the list- we even said this when were chasing Judd.

The club has backed the youth system and are in full support of Hine and his decisions.

I think the club will continue down the same path.

I have a feeling Hine is upto something.

Getting a top 5 pick from a rebuilding club is a much bigger ask than getting Fev when he has been told he is out. It's not fair to compare the two. But I agree - we shouldn't butcher the list to get Fev. If getting Fev comes with getting rid of Anthony, Reid or Brown i'm not for it but it depends on your definition of butchering the list. Giving up Dawes and pick 14 (+maybe a bit more) is not butchering the list IMO. Dawes is really overrated by some in here.

 

[Malifice]

He was the best goal kicker in the competition.. now he is a 700K a year 29 year old forward that doesn't chase and has off field and alcohol issues

Do you watch footy?

Actually you probably wouldn't be watching too many Carlton games so fair enough.

Seriously though he is one of our best at tackles inside the forward 50. Top 5 in the AFL this year IIRC.

Has flattened many a player taking too much time with the ball.

His on field work ethic (chasing and sharing the ball) is commendable.

Its the off field boozy shit that is the problem.

 

[greening22]

What's wrong with our recruiting department?

We made the top and a prelim on the back of youth.

We are one of the youngest lists in the comp.

We have had more rising stars nominees than any other club of late too. That is extremely promising considering we are at the top end of the table.

Need to look at things a little more closely and no get all excited by the media hysteria and circus that is becoming Fev and the Blues.

Well; after 10 years we still have no physically imposing and dominating RUCKMAN. We have an abundance if small crumbing forwards who do not deliver consistently in finals. We lack speed in the mid-field. We do not have any PROVEN key backmen who can play at centre-half back or full-back; especially given the impending retirement of Prestigiacomo. Plus I will mention a coule of our first rounders in recent years who have really proven themselves such as Richard Cole; Chris Egan; Danny Roach and Billy Morrison. Throw in Chad Morrison for whom West Coast picked up Mark Le Cras with that pick just to name a few. I could go but obviously people on this site are happy with out recent final results since 2006. I am pretty sure that we can rely upon Josh Fraser to take the AFL competition apart in 2010 as he has done in recent times. Yes; we have some promising young players but that does not gurantee anything in the future.

 

[Zahki]

Do you watch footy?

Actually you probably wouldn't be watching too many Carlton games so fair enough.

Seriously though he is one of our best at tackles inside the forward 50. Top 5 in the AFL this year IIRC.

Has flattened many a player taking too much time with the ball.

His on field work ethic (chasing and sharing the ball) is commendable.

Its the off field boozy shit that is the problem.

Ignore him mate, it's pretty clear he's a troll by now.

 

[Malifice]

I am seriously not going to get any work done over the next week and a half while this plays out!

Be an interesting 2 weeks for sure.

 

[HFF]

I am seriously not going to get any work done over the next week and a half while this plays out!

Be an interesting 2 weeks for sure.

Many of us here feel your pain, tension, nervousness etc.

Didak was in the same position last year.

It will be an interesting trade period for sure.

 

[didaka]

I am seriously not going to get any work done over the next week and a half while this plays out!

Be an interesting 2 weeks for sure.

I don't think you'll get near Brown or Reid in trade talks. Reid is probably more movable, but Brown is untouchable with 1 year left in Presti.

 

[Ant85]

I'll have him, definitely.

On one condition: he keeps his mouth shut.

MM is the right guy to toe him into line.

How weird though. I've hated him for so long, and he's hated us for so long. Eek!

 

[didaka]

I would've honestly thought the fact MM has been at the helm 10 years without a flag with 2 years remaining would see him in favor of going out swinging and bringing an absolute game winner into the footy club.

We could honestly get him without selling the farm. We don't just have to negotiate with players, we have a 700,000 dollar salary to negotiate with.

 

[Damon_3388]

I want him, as long as he:
- Totally commits to fitness (not 'just enough to get by' or maintaining his current level, I'm talking shape of his life like Medhurst got into over the '08 pre-season)
- Is a 100% team player (chasing, tackling, passing off when he should, and not sulking or deciding it's 'not his day' 5 minutes into an important game)
- Unconditionally abstains from alcohol, cigarettes, recreational drugs, brandishing sex toys and appearing on The Footy Show for the duration of his contract

 

[HFF]

I would've honestly thought the fact MM has been at the helm 10 years without a flag with 2 years remaining would see him in favor of going out swinging and bringing an absolute game winner into the footy club.

We could honestly get him without selling the farm. We don't just have to negotiate with players, we have a 700,000 dollar salary to negotiate with.[/quote]

I actually proposed this to a Carlton mate of mine and he was having none of it. Clearly, compensation in the form of high picks and guns players is far more attractive than negotiating to take on his salary.

Nonetheless I would play hardball with the Blues if we really wanted him and not offer much in terms of the trade but I'd be prepared to take on his Carlton salary. We definitely have the space to move and I'd be front loading it too and adding him to the veterans list.

 

[didaka]

A supporters opinion on the matter would definitely be compensation. A club paying 2 players a total of around 1.8 mil a year, may think otherwise you'd suspect.

If we traded 14 & Dawes and took on 95% of his salary, it'd be hard not to accept. It will keep Murphy, Kreuzer, Yarran and Gibbs happy in the future.

Salary is a big selling point to me. The flexibility would be pretty handy for the blues.

Unfortunately though the V list is not possible as you have to serve 10 years at the one club.