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I can see that, however it could also be a pick around 8-12. People forget that we finished outside the top 8 only 2 seasons ago.

Clubs will always assume the worse end of a future pick. Add Bailey Smith in to a midfield that was trounced you haven’t got worse! If it’s the Cats f1 it will be one of the Tigers picks not both
 

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I could see you trying to work out a way to create an extra list space and trade back in to one of those Richmond picks for Alex Dodson.
We can't as we are locked into taking Schoenberg & Burgess (arhh!) as rookies & we are committed to Welsh.

We have no spare spots.
 
I wonder who does have a crack at those Richmond late 1st rounders. In my view:

Prime Candidates
Essendon - Already expressed an interest to trade back in and have 2 1sts. Either would be great for Richmond.
Bulldogs - They tried to get 13 and would back their 1st pick next year to be >10.
Hawthorn - They have Carltons F1 which they'd expect to be >10 and tried to get 13.

Outside Chance
Geelong - They could back their 1st pick next year to be >10 but there's risk there and might want flexibility for trades
St Kilda - A bit risky. Likely trading a 2025 top 10 pick for pick 20+. They already have 7&8. Don't need to be greedy.
Adelaide - Might try as they only have 1 early pick this year but too risky for me.
Kangaroos - There is talk of them wanting a 2nd pick but F1 is too high for Richmond's picks. Reckon they try GWS.

Very Unlikely
Goldcoast & Brisbane - Need F1s for academy bids next year
Fremantle & Westcoast - Will be saving picks for a possible Warner trade
GWS & Sydney - Already have multiple picks late in the 1st round

Impossible
Carlton, Collingwood, Port Adelaide, Melbourne - Don't have F1s

I think Richmond won't have issues getting F1 straight swaps for 18 and 20 providing the right players are there. 22/23 starts to become a bit of a stretch. They may end up trading the 1st 2 and using the other 2. Again it depends who is there.
Reportedly the 2025 draft is weaker / not as deep as this year's first round, so I think there'd be a number of clubs quite comfortable trading their F1s for picks in this draft where the top 20 or so is considered a good depth of talent.

As with any future pick, it's a gamble but we're likely to either break even, or we deathride a club and hopefully snatch a suprisingly good pick upgrade from someone who finishes lower than expected.

I'd probably be happy to take 6 picks this year and then trade out 2 into next year if the right club offered it.
 
If we chucked in 38 with our F1, it’d be for a late teens pick.
Forget the pick number, you'll be doing it for a player you want. That player you'd pay that for with a late teens may still be on the board by the time it gets to 24.

I wouldn't worry. With your mob, if you do it it'll be really calculated and probably be a win.
 
I think the value for this draft is the picks in the 20s and 30s.
Otherwise draft picks in top 10 are about as weak a class for me in recent memory. In particular the top 5 by comparison.

Curious to see where teams drop out of draft though. Brisbane after they know where Levi bid falls may trade some picks. Same with Gold Coast after Leo may trade around a few places.
 
I think the value for this draft is the picks in the 20s and 30s.
Otherwise draft picks in top 10 are about as weak a class for me in recent memory. In particular the top 5 by comparison.

Curious to see where teams drop out of draft though. Brisbane after they know where Levi bid falls may trade some picks. Same with Gold Coast after Leo may trade around a few places.
Sweet. We'll give you two of those golden 20s picks for your crappy top 5 pick.
 
I think the value for this draft is the picks in the 20s and 30s.
Otherwise draft picks in top 10 are about as weak a class for me in recent memory. In particular the top 5 by comparison.

Curious to see where teams drop out of draft though. Brisbane after they know where Levi bid falls may trade some picks. Same with Gold Coast after Leo may trade around a few places.
I think it's comparatively extemely strong from about pick 5 onwards, but doesn't have as strong a top 4 as you often get. There's about 7 blokes who'd normally go pick 5 and then another 25 blokes who'd normally go top 20. Then about 20 blokes who'd normally go 20-35.
 

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Yep, 28 is a stretch!
I don’t think so. I think about the best we would get for our F1 would be pick 19 or 20, and for all we know we could finish bottom 4 next year, while North probably wouldn’t get a pick inside 15 for theirs, so I’d say there’s very little chance of a team who could win the flag getting a pick inside 25, for their F1.

Especially with potentially 5 other clubs offering up their F1’s for the same picks.
 
Clubs will always assume the worse end of a future pick. Add Bailey Smith in to a midfield that was trounced you haven’t got worse! If it’s the Cats f1 it will be one of the Tigers picks not both

If you're saying Geelong F1 would only get 18 or 20 off Richmond at best that's probably right but I wouldn't trade it for that. I'm happy to pick late this draft.
 
If you're saying Geelong F1 would only get 18 or 20 off Richmond at best that's probably right but I wouldn't trade it for that. I'm happy to pick late this draft.

It’s about all you can expect for a f1 from the Cats maybe pick 18 (at best)
 

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